Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:12 +0100, David McKay wrote: snip On 09/07/11 07:58, eric b wrote: The .org is and was always essential to the community. Why? Out of the folk on the OOo forum who expressed an opinion to me, no one liked it. It was a perpetual reminder that the product

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Reizinger Zoltán wrote: The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to load: http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. Somebody knows what the cause of this problem.

Re: Any interest in meeting in Berlin July 13th?

2011-07-11 Thread Arthur Buijs
On 07/08/2011 02:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Sorry Rob, I missed this mail. As you know I will be there and I would love to touch base with you and any others who will be present. I haven't booked my flights and hotel

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:12 +0100, David McKay wrote: snip On 09/07/11 07:58, eric b wrote: The .org is and was always essential to the community. Why? Out of the folk on the OOo forum who expressed an opinion

Re: Images for use on Blogs Categories

2011-07-11 Thread IngridvdM
Hi Gav, Could you add Chart as category? Charts can be inserted into text documents, spreadsheets and presentations, so they do not fit into one of the given categories. Thanks a lot! Ingrid Gavin McDonald wrote: Hi All, I created Categories 'Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw and Base' I'd

Re: Try to build OOo , but meet error......

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Stahl
On 09.07.2011 06:19, L'oiseau de mer wrote: if without setting CC and CXX, configure will use gcc and appear ld error. if CC=cc and CXX=CC , configure will appear : checking for cc... /opt/solstudio12.2/bin//cc checking the SunStudio C/C++ compiler version... configure: error: found version

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Graham Lauder
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 07:36 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: As Peter Junge has stated, this discussion has a repetitive deja vu feel about it. It would only be repetitive if circumstances were the same. They aren't. Perhaps the full magnitude of this has not hit, but things are very different

Re: [securityteam] Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security list (was Re: OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting)

2011-07-11 Thread Malte Timmermann
+1 for having ooo-secur...@incubator.apache.org, because - old OOo mailing lists will probably die some day - other people are now participating in Apache OOo, who don't work on OOo/LO - (Old) OOo doesn't release security updates anymore, I guess. I am still on vacation until 06/25. That the

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, Von: Javier Sola li...@khmeros.info This product competes with another one whose main disadvantage is not having the name OpenOffice.org, and who is already producing working software, more advanced that this project at this time, and getting the favor of some distributions. So -

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Fred Juan DIAZ
--- En date de : Lun 11.7.11, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org a écrit : [...] I'm just mindful that change for change sake is not a reason to dump an established brand and in fact change in the rest of the infrastructure is an excellent reason for retention and strengthening of that

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-11 Thread TJ Frazier
On 7/11/2011 07:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Reizinger Zoltán wrote: The two sites works sporadically, needs four five web page refresh to load: http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ To help OOo present users, needs to stabilize sites work. Somebody

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Simon Phipps
On 11 Jul 2011, at 14:16, Andre Schnabel wrote: So - if the Apache project does not want to use the brand OpenOffice.org, maybe ask Oracle to hand it over to TDF instead. Ok, just joking - I would not expect this to happen. More than that, as far as I can tell TDF are perfectly happy with

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, I like OpenOffice.org. But I would like to ask Japanese OpenOffice.org users what they think about the name of the product they are using now. We, OpenOffice.org Japanese Language Project, has strictly applied the policy[1] to our marketing and promotion of OpenOffice.org in Japan and

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On 07/11/2011 04:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:12 +0100, David McKay wrote: snip On 09/07/11 07:58, eric b wrote: The .org is and was always essential to the community. Why? Out of the folk on the OOo forum who expressed an opinion to me, no one liked it. It was a

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Andy Brown
Kay Schenk wrote: On 07/11/2011 04:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:12 +0100, David McKay wrote: snip On 09/07/11 07:58, eric b wrote: The .org is and was always essential to the community. Why? Out of the folk on the OOo forum who expressed an opinion to me, no

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi André 2011/7/11 Andre Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, [...] So - if the Apache project does not want to use the brand OpenOffice.org, maybe ask Oracle to hand it over to TDF instead. +1 ;-) Ok, just joking - I would not expect this to happen. But anyway - everyone who would

Re: Images for use on Blogs Categories

2011-07-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Ingrid, Could you add Chart as category? Charts can be inserted into text documents, spreadsheets and presentations, so they do not fit into one of the given categories. I added the Chart category. Thanks a lot! Ingrid Gavin McDonald wrote: Hi All, I created Categories

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/11/2011 05:18 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Kay Schenk wrote: On 07/11/2011 04:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:12 +0100, David McKay wrote: snip On 09/07/11 07:58, eric b wrote: The .org is and was always essential to the community. Why? Out of the folk on the OOo

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Andre Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, Von: Javier Sola li...@khmeros.info This product competes with another one whose main disadvantage is not having the name OpenOffice.org, and who is already producing working software, more advanced that this

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Andre Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, Von: Javier Sola li...@khmeros.info This product competes with another one whose main disadvantage is not having the name

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir: From a branding perspective you did have the opportunity to start fresh, but you did not go with a .org name. It did not matter that we had the opportunity to start fresh - what really did matter was that we *had to* start fresh. Anyway -

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
2011/7/11 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir:  From a branding perspective you did have the opportunity to start fresh, but you did not go with a .org name. It did not matter that we had the opportunity to start fresh - what really did matter

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Ian Lynch
On 11 July 2011 17:58, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: 2011/7/11 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir: From a branding perspective you did have the opportunity to start fresh, but you did not go with a .org name. It did not matter

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for the project. You're misportraying the facts; it's a preexisting Apache policy that predates OOo being proposed as a podling. Now, we're generally reasonable people

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
2011/7/11 Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com: 2011/7/11 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir:  From a branding perspective you did have the opportunity to start fresh, but you did not go with a .org name. It did not matter that we had the opportunity

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/11 Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com: 2011/7/11 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir:  From a branding perspective you did have the opportunity to start fresh, but you

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Danese Cooper
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for the project. You're misportraying the facts; it's a preexisting Apache policy that

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Danese Cooper wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for the project. You're

Re: master_l10n (was: fetch-all-cws.sh)

2011-07-11 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Greg, On Friday, 2011-07-08 15:22:36 -0400, Greg Stein wrote: I'm going to suggest we do this: 3. as sibling to trunk and our other high-level directories: ooo/trunk/... ooo/l10n/... +1 That has the advantage of avoiding the l10n data when working on trunk. When we copy

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On 07/11/2011 10:37 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Manfred A. Reiterma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/11 Rob Weirapa...@robweir.com: 2011/7/11 André Schnabelandre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir: From a branding perspective you did

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Carl Marcum
It seems to me that a lot of the problem arises in keeping the development project and the product brand names exactly the same. If there are indeed going to to be 2 websites, OpenOffice.org which is where end users go to get the product, help, etc. and the tbd.apache.org where the

RE: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 That works for me, conceptually. I don't have any history with OpenOffice.org, the project, however, so I intend to stay neutral on how this gets thrashed out. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 16:54 To: