Re: Legacy OOo SVN
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Pedro Giffuni wrote: FWIW, If it were possible to preserve the history of the deceased MySpell in the ooo-myspell SVN at apache-extras it would be nice. Just for historic purposes. Is MySpell in legacy SVN? Or would we need to go back to th CVS repo for that? I think it is in the CVS Attic. Pedro. Btw, the sync of the legacy SVN to a local mirror just completed this morning. I'm doing an svnadmin verify on it right now. Verify of local mirror was OK. Syncing to Apache-Extras now. I tried creating a dump file so I could do an svndumpfilter on it to extract the dmake history for Pedro, but I ran out of disk space. New drive coming on Wednesday and I'll try that again. -Rob
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
--- On Mon, 10/24/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... Verify of local mirror was OK. Syncing to Apache-Extras now. I tried creating a dump file so I could do an svndumpfilter on it to extract the dmake history for Pedro, but I ran out of disk space. New drive coming on Wednesday and I'll try that again. Thanks, I appreciate it! Pedro.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Pedro Giffuni wrote: FWIW, If it were possible to preserve the history of the deceased MySpell in the ooo-myspell SVN at apache-extras it would be nice. Just for historic purposes. Is MySpell in legacy SVN? Or would we need to go back to th CVS repo for that? I think it is in the CVS Attic. Pedro.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Pedro Giffuni wrote: FWIW, If it were possible to preserve the history of the deceased MySpell in the ooo-myspell SVN at apache-extras it would be nice. Just for historic purposes. Is MySpell in legacy SVN? Or would we need to go back to th CVS repo for that? I think it is in the CVS Attic. Pedro. Btw, the sync of the legacy SVN to a local mirror just completed this morning. I'm doing an svnadmin verify on it right now. -Rob
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: FWIW, If it were possible to preserve the history of the deceased MySpell in the ooo-myspell SVN at apache-extras it would be nice. Just for historic purposes. Is MySpell in legacy SVN? Or would we need to go back to th CVS repo for that? Pedro.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
Hi Michael, On 10/16/2011 09:23 AM, Michael Stahl wrote: On 15.10.2011 19:49, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: ... I want to make sure we're not duplicating effort here. I've been working with Pedro to take the legacy OOo SVN repository (pre Hg) and get it onto Apache-Extras. I'm doing this via svnsync, a slow process, but it will preserve the revision history. sounds good; there are even still some non-integrated CWSes in there, but probably these are by now so outdated that they aren't of much interest. In more than week, at the current rate, but still it's worth it. I am not sure if support for MySpell and Xalan is still buried there somewhere but in theory there is some stuff there that may have been otherwise lost during the Hg migration. I'm told that before SVN the project used CVS. Is it worth backing that up as well? I have no idea where the CVS stuff may be available but apache-extras doesn't support CVS and it's probably not worth the try anyways. It is probably not useful for the project, at least directly. But I was contacted by someone off list who said it might be good to have a back up as a reference, for IP reasons. This kind of make sense. It shows the provenance of the code, and it also establish an earlier data (back to 2000, right?) for publication of the code. This is useful as prior art. keep in mind that the CVS repo is pretty darn enormous, Heiner said something about 90G: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c4e05d910.5070...@web.de%3E A naive conversion of the CVS repository to SVN would have resulted in a 90 GiB repository or so. The CVS repository was, AFAIR about 7 GiB for source modules only, or was it 9 GiB? Can't remember exactly. Of course the old CVS repository was a huge mess with source code modules, national language modules and documentation intermingled. Maybe someone still has a CVSup copy of it. Anyway, we did a pretty good job in preserving the history in the legacy SVN and the HG repository as far as code is concerned - at least for source files which were still active at the time of the legacy SVN conversion. I guess that would be sufficient to answer IP related questions. What are our options if we wanted to back up the CVS, and preserve the revision history? Apache-Extras doesn't do CVS. hmm... converting to something non-CVS is probably not an option, because that would lose information (given the nature of CVS any large repo is a huge mess...). Don't go there :-) perhaps mirror it with CVSup, make a tarball and upload that somewhere... probably nobody really wants to actually look at it, it's more of an insurance thing, right? Regards, Heiner -- Jens-Heiner Rechtien
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
FWIW, If it were possible to preserve the history of the deceased MySpell in the ooo-myspell SVN at apache-extras it would be nice. Just for historic purposes. Pedro.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
On 17/10/2011 Maho NAKATA wrote: From: Rob Weir I'm told that before SVN the project used CVS. Is it worth backing that up as well? Yes, sure. Some projects like native lang projects are not covered by SVN. What exactly is not covered by SVN in the Native-Lang projects? The Italian N-L project used CVS for the website content only, but that one was converted to SVN (a fresh import, dropping all history) with the Kenai migration and it is still working correctly. Is there anything that is still under CVS and that we should backup? Regards, Andrea.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org Subject: Re: Legacy OOo SVN Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:49:48 +0200 On 17/10/2011 Maho NAKATA wrote: From: Rob Weir I'm told that before SVN the project used CVS. Is it worth backing that up as well? Yes, sure. Some projects like native lang projects are not covered by SVN. What exactly is not covered by SVN in the Native-Lang projects? The Italian N-L project used CVS for the website content only, but that one was converted to SVN (a fresh import, dropping all history) with the Kenai migration and it is still working correctly. Oh - I forgot that. Some of the history of NLs are dropped... thanks -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , JA OOO http://ja.openoffice.org/ http://blog.goo.ne.jp/nakatamaho/ ,GPG: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/maho.pgp.txt
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
FWIW, This is one of the services that is in inminent danger of getting lost for ever :(. Pedro.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: FWIW, This is one of the services that is in inminent danger of getting lost for ever :(. SVN? I'm up to revision 65208 on the local mirror. So almost 1/3 done. I have not attended anything with the CVS repo. I did notice a tool called CVSsuck that might help get a local mirror. Then cvs2svn could be used. Pedro.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
On 15.10.2011 19:49, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... I want to make sure we're not duplicating effort here. I've been working with Pedro to take the legacy OOo SVN repository (pre Hg) and get it onto Apache-Extras. I'm doing this via svnsync, a slow process, but it will preserve the revision history. sounds good; there are even still some non-integrated CWSes in there, but probably these are by now so outdated that they aren't of much interest. In more than week, at the current rate, but still it's worth it. I am not sure if support for MySpell and Xalan is still buried there somewhere but in theory there is some stuff there that may have been otherwise lost during the Hg migration. I'm told that before SVN the project used CVS. Is it worth backing that up as well? I have no idea where the CVS stuff may be available but apache-extras doesn't support CVS and it's probably not worth the try anyways. It is probably not useful for the project, at least directly. But I was contacted by someone off list who said it might be good to have a back up as a reference, for IP reasons. This kind of make sense. It shows the provenance of the code, and it also establish an earlier data (back to 2000, right?) for publication of the code. This is useful as prior art. keep in mind that the CVS repo is pretty darn enormous, Heiner said something about 90G: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3c4e05d910.5070...@web.de%3E What are our options if we wanted to back up the CVS, and preserve the revision history? Apache-Extras doesn't do CVS. hmm... converting to something non-CVS is probably not an option, because that would lose information (given the nature of CVS any large repo is a huge mess...). perhaps mirror it with CVSup, make a tarball and upload that somewhere... probably nobody really wants to actually look at it, it's more of an insurance thing, right? regards, michael
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
--- On Sun, 10/16/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... The sync has died. Stuck on this error: :( The next revision has a huge memo, over 1MB long: svn log -r 49548 http://svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/ I wonder if that is the problem. I can't fix this on my end, at least not that I can see. I need someone who can change the memo for revision 49548 in the legacy SVN. I think the dump is editable, I read so in the SVN handbook. Pedro.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 15:33:36 -0400: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Sun, 10/16/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... The sync has died. Stuck on this error: :( The next revision has a huge memo, over 1MB long: svn log -r 49548 http://svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/ I wonder if that is the problem. I can't fix this on my end, at least not that I can see. I need someone who can change the memo for revision 49548 in the legacy SVN. I think the dump is editable, I read so in the SVN handbook. I don't have a dump. I was doing an svnsync directly from legacy SVN (read-only to me) to the Google Code repository. The other approach is to do this in two steps: mirror locally, and then svnsync that to Google. That would give more flexibility, since I can correct any issues like this on my local repository. svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like this idiom :-)
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like this idiom :-) svnrdump is available in Subversion 1.7 and newer.
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like this idiom :-) svnrdump is available in Subversion 1.7 and newer. Cool, remote dumps. Is a 1.7 client sufficient, or does this require the server also be updated? This is the legacy OOo SVN server, so harder to get that upgraded. In any case, I've started the create a local mirror. At 13348/278112 now, so ~5% done. -Rob
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:34:33 -0400: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like this idiom :-) svnrdump is available in Subversion 1.7 and newer. Cool, remote dumps. Is a 1.7 client sufficient, 1.7 client, 1.4/1.5 source server, 1.0(?) target server. http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.7 (Ignore the stuff about race conditions, it doesn't apply in your use case)
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Subject: Legacy OOo SVN Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:32:44 -0400 I want to make sure we're not duplicating effort here. I've been working with Pedro to take the legacy OOo SVN repository (pre Hg) and get it onto Apache-Extras. I'm doing this via svnsync, a slow process, but it will preserve the revision history. It should be done in a few more days. We should think about putting a link to this repository, along with a link to the back up Hg repository, on our website here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/source.html It should probably have a suitable disclaimer that this is the legacy code, not the project's code, not ALv2, etc., but having access to the history is useful. I'm told that before SVN the project used CVS. Is it worth backing that up as well? Yes, sure. Some projects like native lang projects are not covered by SVN. thanks
Re: Legacy OOo SVN
--- On Sat, 10/15/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... It is probably not useful for the project, at least directly. But I was contacted by someone off list who said it might be good to have a back up as a reference, for IP reasons. This kind of make sense. It shows the provenance of the code, and it also establish an earlier data (back to 2000, right?) for publication of the code. This is useful as prior art. I see your point. Just for fun try to see if you can find where this came from in CVS: soltools/cpp FWIW, it's basically the same code in idlc/source/preproc that forms part of the original SGA. :) What are our options if we wanted to back up the CVS, and preserve the revision history? Apache-Extras doesn't do CVS. It looks like sourceforge has phased out CVS .. hmm... Savannah? Pedro.
