Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
Hi. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Any objections to this general idea? Any improvements? And if we did want a place to have a big table of volunteers, where on the wiki should we put it (CWiki or MWiki)? Yes, we must show who really helps too. The page in cwiki is but ideal. -- Albino
Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
Just found this thread...it's a very good discussion. It will help people like me to understand the community much more easily, and to find people who have the same interest. How is this work going? Helen 2012/10/25 Sylvain DENIS sylvain.tech...@gmail.com Big thanks, Rob librement, *Sylvain DENIS* /Expert TIC, FLOSS WEB Conseiller en sécurité de l'information Formateur, conférencier/ Le 25/10/12 13:50, Rob Weir a écrit : It will be a wiki page, so you will be able to add your own information. I will send an announcement when it is ready. -Rob
Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
Hello Rob how to be on the list of contributors? (I'm promoting AOO, I am a professor of computer and office, I also help in using AOO). For your information, I started the publication of the article (in French) High Level AOO Greats librement, *Sylvain DENIS* /Expert TIC, FLOSS WEB Conseiller en sécurité de l'information Formateur, conférencier/ Le 24/10/12 20:56, Rob Weir a écrit : We have the following today: 1) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html -- This lists a variety of people involved in the project, independent of status. 2) I'd like to have a place for new volunteers to put their names, preferably on the wiki or some place where a non-committer has easy access. 3) We have a list of Committers here, automatically generated: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo 4) We don't have anything that indicates which Committers are also PMC members. 5) We have this credits page, which is linked to from our Help/About dialog box. But it does not appear to be updated for AOO 3.4.0 or 3.4.1: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html 6) Wiki User pages 7) Any others? As we all know, with multiple lists like this things will get out of synch. In fact they already have. One simplification idea might be: 1) Convert the people.html page into a wiki page 2) Have that page indicate who is a Committer or PMC member. That can be manual for now. 3) Point our Help/About box to the wiki page, and add sentence at the end of the wiki that says, OpenOffice has a long history and we also thank those who contributed to it before our move to Apache and then link to credits.html Any objections to this general idea? Any improvements? And if we did want a place to have a big table of volunteers, where on the wiki should we put it (CWiki or MWiki)? -Rob
Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
Big thanks, Rob librement, *Sylvain DENIS* /Expert TIC, FLOSS WEB Conseiller en sécurité de l'information Formateur, conférencier/ Le 25/10/12 13:50, Rob Weir a écrit : It will be a wiki page, so you will be able to add your own information. I will send an announcement when it is ready. -Rob
Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
On 24 October 2012 20:56, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We have the following today: 1) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html -- This lists a variety of people involved in the project, independent of status. 2) I'd like to have a place for new volunteers to put their names, preferably on the wiki or some place where a non-committer has easy access. +1, very good idea...but may I suggest that we formalize the skill set description a bit (sort of check boxes), and add a field interest in AOO, (e.g. l10n) making it easier for others to see where help can come from. 3) We have a list of Committers here, automatically generated: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo I would be nice to know the same about committers, and especially which areas the commit, I know in theory all, but I assume in praxise the areas they know well. 4) We don't have anything that indicates which Committers are also PMC members. Is that an important difference in daily life ? 5) We have this credits page, which is linked to from our Help/About dialog box. But it does not appear to be updated for AOO 3.4.0 or 3.4.1: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html 6) Wiki User pages 7) Any others? As we all know, with multiple lists like this things will get out of synch. In fact they already have. One simplification idea might be: 1) Convert the people.html page into a wiki page +1 and merge with contributors ?? 2) Have that page indicate who is a Committer or PMC member. That can be manual for now. 3) Point our Help/About box to the wiki page, and add sentence at the end of the wiki that says, OpenOffice has a long history and we also thank those who contributed to it before our move to Apache and then link to credits.html Any objections to this general idea? Any improvements? And if we did want a place to have a big table of volunteers, where on the wiki should we put it (CWiki or MWiki)? MWiki...that is OUR wiki, CWiki is for whole apache or ? -Rob
Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
On 10/24/2012 11:56 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We have the following today: 1) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html -- This lists a variety of people involved in the project, independent of status. yes, and I don't think it's up to date...it may need to go soonish. 2) I'd like to have a place for new volunteers to put their names, preferably on the wiki or some place where a non-committer has easy access. Here's an idea... we have/had the old credits page on the user portal web server: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html I suggest we port this in its entirety to the wiki -- maybe even put in a new People navigation item -- and continue to let people add themselves to the list. 3) We have a list of Committers here, automatically generated: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo 4) We don't have anything that indicates which Committers are also PMC members. We probably should list them on the project site...maybe a PMC page instead of the outdated people page, if this is important. Maybe a topic for further discussion. 5) We have this credits page, which is linked to from our Help/About dialog box. But it does not appear to be updated for AOO 3.4.0 or 3.4.1: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html I see no reason why this page: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html can't be moved in its entirety to the wiki -- maybe even put in a new People navigation item in the main wiki navigation -- and continue to let people add themselves to the list. 6) Wiki User pages these are already there by the way, but some are quite outdated 7) Any others? As we all know, with multiple lists like this things will get out of synch. In fact they already have. One simplification idea might be: 1) Convert the people.html page into a wiki page 2) Have that page indicate who is a Committer or PMC member. That can be manual for now. 3) Point our Help/About box to the wiki page, and add sentence at the end of the wiki that says, OpenOffice has a long history and we also thank those who contributed to it before our move to Apache and then link to credits.html Any objections to this general idea? Any improvements? And if we did want a place to have a big table of volunteers, where on the wiki should we put it (CWiki or MWiki)? -Rob -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/24/2012 11:56 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We have the following today: 1) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html -- This lists a variety of people involved in the project, independent of status. yes, and I don't think it's up to date...it may need to go soonish. 2) I'd like to have a place for new volunteers to put their names, preferably on the wiki or some place where a non-committer has easy access. Here's an idea... we have/had the old credits page on the user portal web server: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html I suggest we port this in its entirety to the wiki -- maybe even put in a new People navigation item -- and continue to let people add themselves to the list. But most of these people are no longer involved with the project, right? So the table would have names only for most of the entries, with no other details, interests, country, etc., like our current people.html page has. 3) We have a list of Committers here, automatically generated: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo 4) We don't have anything that indicates which Committers are also PMC members. We probably should list them on the project site...maybe a PMC page instead of the outdated people page, if this is important. Maybe a topic for further discussion. 5) We have this credits page, which is linked to from our Help/About dialog box. But it does not appear to be updated for AOO 3.4.0 or 3.4.1: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html I see no reason why this page: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html can't be moved in its entirety to the wiki -- maybe even put in a new People navigation item in the main wiki navigation -- and continue to let people add themselves to the list. With this approach, would it be possible to have two tables, one for active and another for inactive or emeritus? That might reduce the clutter. Most of the time you are looking for info about a current project volunteer. So it would be nice to make that task easy. -Rob 6) Wiki User pages these are already there by the way, but some are quite outdated 7) Any others? As we all know, with multiple lists like this things will get out of synch. In fact they already have. One simplification idea might be: 1) Convert the people.html page into a wiki page 2) Have that page indicate who is a Committer or PMC member. That can be manual for now. 3) Point our Help/About box to the wiki page, and add sentence at the end of the wiki that says, OpenOffice has a long history and we also thank those who contributed to it before our move to Apache and then link to credits.html Any objections to this general idea? Any improvements? And if we did want a place to have a big table of volunteers, where on the wiki should we put it (CWiki or MWiki)? -Rob -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Rob. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We have the following today: 1) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html -- This lists a variety of people involved in the project, independent of status. Let's convert this page into an official list of PMC members and Committers. Maintained by the PMC. I volunteer to update this by next week. 2) I'd like to have a place for new volunteers to put their names, preferably on the wiki or some place where a non-committer has easy access. +1 this can be dynamic and self organizing. 3) We have a list of Committers here, automatically generated: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo This is from the ASF and comes from karma as granted by the PMC chair. 4) We don't have anything that indicates which Committers are also PMC members. The new people page will show the differences. 5) We have this credits page, which is linked to from our Help/About dialog box. But it does not appear to be updated for AOO 3.4.0 or 3.4.1: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html 6) Wiki User pages 7) Any others? As we all know, with multiple lists like this things will get out of synch. In fact they already have. One simplification idea might be: 1) Convert the people.html page into a wiki page I'd like to keep it as a CMS page. 2) Have that page indicate who is a Committer or PMC member. That can be manual for now. 3) Point our Help/About box to the wiki page, and add sentence at the end of the wiki that says, OpenOffice has a long history and we also thank those who contributed to it before our move to Apache and then link to credits.html Any objections to this general idea? None other than the committer / PMC page should remain in the CMS. That works for me. Maybe, in order to reduce duplication/overlap and the sync issues that come from that, the wiki page would only have volunteers who are not also committers? And since we're all people maybe rename the people.mdtext and nav link to say Committers? -Rob Regards, Dave Any improvements? And if we did want a place to have a big table of volunteers, where on the wiki should we put it (CWiki or MWiki)? -Rob
