Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 T-shirts are a a cheap but effective way to motivate committers.



- Original Message -
...
 
 Hi at all
 
 At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many 
 different 
 versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and distributed by 
 one 
 of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had also Fan Shirts wich 
 are 
 selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was donated by SUN Microsystems. To 
 have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to represent AOO at a Event. The 
 old 
 shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old dark blue logo and a logo from a 
 company who is no longer existent) I realy like to have a new Shirt. 
 Samething 
 like a Committer Shirt, what you think about?
 
 But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at Apache, 
 it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not 
 allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from 
 the 
 ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor a 
 Blog 
 Post.
 
 The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like 
 the 
 Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that. 
 Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can do 
 it 
 from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
 
 I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
 
 What do you think about?
 
 Greetings Raphael
 
 
 -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/



Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-29 Thread Nancy K
Would the same trademark problems exist if a custom flash drive was made using 
the OpenOffice orb with seagull logo? I am thinking that this might be a 
take-away promotion as folks would use this on their computer - if it is 
affordable.  It might be less expensive - possibly with a 
custom lanyard. Something like :
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/cuusbfldr.html

http://www.memorysuppliers.com/custom-usb-flash-drive-shapes.html



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 From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project
 
+1 T-shirts are a a cheap but effective way to motivate committers.



- Original Message -
...
 
 Hi at all
 
 At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many 
 different 
 versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and distributed by 
 one 
 of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had also Fan Shirts wich 
 are 
 selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was donated by SUN Microsystems. To 
 have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to represent AOO at a Event. The 
 old 
 shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old dark blue logo and a logo from a 
 company who is no longer existent) I realy like to have a new Shirt. 
 Samething 
 like a Committer Shirt, what you think about?
 
 But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at Apache, 
 it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not 
 allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from 
 the 
 ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor a 
 Blog 
 Post.
 
 The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like 
 the 
 Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that. 
 Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can do 
 it 
 from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
 
 I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
 
 What do you think about?
 
 Greetings Raphael
 
 
 -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/


T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi at all

At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many 
different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and 
distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have 
had also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt 
was donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if 
you go to represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly 
outdated. (the old dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no 
longer existent) I realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a 
Committer Shirt, what you think about?


But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at 
Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's 
not allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke 
Issues from the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can 
offer the Sponsor a Blog Post.


The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy 
like the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like 
that. Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. 
Yes, I can do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a 
other country.


I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe

What do you think about?

Greetings Raphael


--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/


Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:

 Hi at all

 At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
 different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
 distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
 also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
 donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go
 to represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the
 old dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I
 realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you
 think about?


Raphael--

I think this is a lovely idea! :)

Maybe you  should take this up with marketing? Or see what they're up to.
Thye may already have come up with some ideas.

I think it would be great for committers to have specially labeled shirts
to wear to functions such as this.



 But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
 Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
 allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues
 from the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the
 Sponsor a Blog Post.

 The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy
 like the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
 Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can
 do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.

 I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe

 What do you think about?

 Greetings Raphael


 --
 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/




-- 

MzK

I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool.
  -- Eddie Van Halen


Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. 

On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
 
 Hi at all
 
 At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
 different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
 distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
 also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
 donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go
 to represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the
 old dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I
 realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you
 think about?
 
 
 Raphael--
 
 I think this is a lovely idea! :)
 
 Maybe you  should take this up with marketing? Or see what they're up to.
 Thye may already have come up with some ideas.
 
 I think it would be great for committers to have specially labeled shirts
 to wear to functions such as this.
 

KG01 - Could also be a way to raise funds for project. 

 
 But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
 Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
 allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues
 from the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the
 Sponsor a Blog Post.
 
 The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy
 like the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
 Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world.

Recently I purchased printed tshirts in china for 10us dollars each. With more 
volume, price could drop. 


 Yes, I can
 do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
 

KG01 - Perhaps we can find a partner who can handle to printing and 
distribution. Proceeds to the effort. 


 I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
 
 What do you think about?
 
 Greetings Raphael
 
 
 --
 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 MzK
 
 I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool.
  -- Eddie Van Halen


RE: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think, from the standpoint of AOO community, being an Apache committer is 
probably something to leave for an ASF T-shirt, if that is ever done at all.  

It might be better to leave such fine-grained details among AOO supporters and 
contributors to nametags or something similar (pins or stickers perhaps).

 - Dennis

PS: I have one Creative Commons T-Shirt that says I'm a Commoner which people 
don't get and I have to explain it.  The one that says I love to share on the 
front created an awkward moment with two tipsy ladies at a Mark Knopfler 
concert while Robert Scoble and I were walking back to our cars (where our 
wives had gone ahead).

-Original Message-
From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 08:56
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

[ ... ]

I think this is a lovely idea! :)

Maybe you  should take this up with marketing? Or see what they're up to.
Thye may already have come up with some ideas.

I think it would be great for committers to have specially labeled shirts
to wear to functions such as this.

[ ... ]



Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi

2012/7/28 Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch:
 Hi at all

 At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
 different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
 distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
 also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
 donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to
 represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old
 dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I realy
 like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you think
 about?

 But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
 Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
 allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from
 the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor
 a Blog Post.

 The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like
 the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
 Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can
 do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.

 I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe

+1

Albino


Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
 Hi at all

 At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
 different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
 distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
 also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
 donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to
 represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old
 dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I realy
 like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you think
 about?

 But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
 Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
 allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from
 the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor
 a Blog Post.


This is  covered by existing ASF trademark policy.  See the section
called Using Apache trademarks on merchandise here:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

And you cans see what other products have done with this Google query:
 shirt site:apache.org

 The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like
 the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
 Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can
 do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.

 I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe

 What do you think about?


The simplest method, I think, is to have have a volunteer design a
shirt, seem permission from the PPMC for the use of the logo and then
work with a 3rd party, like CafePress, to print the shirts.There
are probably other, less expensive options, but they would be more
complicated, in terms of funding and distribution.

-Rob

 Greetings Raphael


 --
 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/