Re: [Oorexx-devel] NSIS installer and CPack

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
Mark, One of the difficulties with converting our file to an NSIS template was getting around which variables in the template are done by directly substituting variables from the CMake file and which ones are done via the generator. In particular, the generator was causing me the biggest issues.

Re: [Oorexx-devel] NSIS installer and CPack

2014-06-09 Thread Mark Miesfeld
Rick, Okay. The configure_file() command looks promising. That's what I was trying to do yesterday by using a NSIS.template.in file that was a copy of our old oorexx.nsi file and just have variables for the /D options. But, it didn't work at all. -- Mark Miesfeld On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at

Re: [Oorexx-devel] NSIS installer and CPack

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
Yeah, configure_file() is a useful command. I'm actually making good progress with this (in stages). My current plan is to generate include files for both the component file manifests and the shortcuts (the shortcuts are done). This will all get created in build directory, the .nsi file well

Re: [Oorexx-devel] NSIS installer and CPack

2014-06-09 Thread Mark Miesfeld
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: btw, do we still need the isNT tests in the .nsi file? We can eliminate one include file if those are no longer needed. We don't really need it. But, if we remove it, the section for setting the path needs to be

Re: [Oorexx-devel] NSIS installer and CPack

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
I did this in then nsis template file...it was a pretty easy change. Rick On Monday, June 9, 2014, Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','object.r...@gmail.com'); wrote: btw, do we still need

[Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread David Ashley
This is just something I am throwing out there with some information added so everyone can think about it. It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in x86_64 format (no i384/486/586/686 version). And I am hearing that Fedora may follow that strategy with the Fedora21 release

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
Does the 64-bit format still support running 32-bit executables? Rick On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM, David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com wrote: This is just something I am throwing out there with some information added so everyone can think about it. It looks like the new Red Hat EL

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread David Ashley
The short answer is no. The longer answer is that if you also load the 32 bit base libraries then the answer is yes. But the question is whether or not those libraries will be available. I think the answer is probably no on that one, but I could be wrong. The basic ide here is to move to 64 bit

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers
Hi David Could you just lay out for us what that would mean in terms of users still on 32bit machines and also those reliant on extensions like rexx\sql, rexxCurl etc. thanks, Jon On 9 June 2014 17:20, David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com wrote: The short answer is no. The longer answer

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
Well, if you are still on a 32-bit machine, you won't be able to upgrade to those 64-bit versions, although I think you'll find that every Intel or AMD machine produced in the last 10 years can actually handle a 64-bit install. If is only when you install a 64-bit OS and are also forced to

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Michael Lueck
David Ashley wrote: It looks like the new Red Hat EL 7.0 will only be available in x86_64 format (no i384/486/586/686 version). I seem to recall reading something about an end of x86 coming to Ubuntu as well. What ever point the distro vendors stop x86 support, obviously ooRexx will not be

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread David Ashley
The bottom line is that any library or application that is 32 bit only would not be usable in a 64 bit operating system. Perhaps the most obvious library is the IBM DB2 Rexx libraries. These are 32 bit only (no 64 bit libraries exist) and would not work on a 64 bit OS, no matter what version of

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers
Just speaking for myself here: I have upwards of 70 machines I am responsible for running ooRexx on 32Bit processors (Celeron 430, Pentium 4, Northwood, Celeron M320, Barias, Coppermine etc..). They are all running Windows OSs (Mainly the now defunct XP). Nearly half of them are tills, so

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Mike Cowlishaw
Maybe this is also a good point to address Windows. At this point Microsoft has not announced anything about dropping support for 32 bit libraries/apps. So I think that we can safely assume Microsoft will continue to support 32 bit apps and libraries since the number of 32 bit only apps

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
No, David is definitely not suggesting adding all 32-bit support. Rick On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers sahana...@windhorse.biz wrote: Just speaking for myself here: I have upwards of 70 machines I am responsible for running ooRexx on 32Bit processors (Celeron 430,

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Future CPU Architecture Decisions

2014-06-09 Thread Mark Miesfeld
Jon, You don't need to be overly concerned with this, in my opinion. The ooRexx code base builds on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows and will continue to build that way as long as your current machines are still running. -- Mark Miesfeld On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers

[Oorexx-devel] A couple of questions about the NSIS script.

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
Spotted a couple of things about the how the NSIS script is currently set up: 1) We're setting the variable NODOTVER on the makensis command line, but I don't see any references to this in the script. Is this still needed? 2) The makensis command line is setting the variable CPU to either x32

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A couple of questions about the NSIS script.

2014-06-09 Thread David Ashley
Not sure about #1 but for #2 I would always test for 64 bit, but that is just my preference. I don't think it really matters a whole lot. David Ashley On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 16:24 -0400, Rick McGuire wrote: Spotted a couple of things about the how the NSIS script is currently set up: 1)

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A couple of questions about the NSIS script.

2014-06-09 Thread Michael Lueck
Rick McGuire wrote: x64, but the script code is testing for the value x86_64. One of these probably has to change...which one? I suppose x64 could mean any 64-bit chip, not specifically Intel comparable. IA64 comes to mind. I would lean towards spelling out x86_64. I am thankful, --

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A couple of questions about the NSIS script.

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
Well, it matters here, because we're passing in x64 or x32 and the code is looking for x86_64. So either the command line is not passing the correct value, or the code is testing for the wrong one. Rick On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Michael Lueck mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com wrote: Rick

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A couple of questions about the NSIS script.

2014-06-09 Thread Mark Miesfeld
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: Spotted a couple of things about the how the NSIS script is currently set up: 1) We're setting the variable NODOTVER on the makensis command line, but I don't see any references to this in the script. Is this still

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A couple of questions about the NSIS script.

2014-06-09 Thread Rick McGuire
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: Spotted a couple of things about the how the NSIS script is currently set up: 1) We're setting the variable NODOTVER on the makensis command

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A couple of questions about the NSIS script.

2014-06-09 Thread Mark Miesfeld
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: Spotted a couple of things about the how the NSIS script is currently