Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich
Any objections to having this meeting on conference call in parallel to the IRC? On Aug 21, 2012, at 20:11 , Galen Charlton wrote: Hi, The near-consensus date for the next community meeting is Friday, 14 September 2012. The meeting will be held at 17:00 UTC+0 (i.e., 1 p.m. US EDT) in

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
great idea. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lori Bowen Ayre // Library Technology Consultant / The Galecia Group Oversight Board Communications Committee / Evergreen (707) 763-6869 // lori.a...@galecia.com Availability: http://tungle.me/lori.ayre

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Jason Etheridge
Any objections to having this meeting on conference call in parallel to the IRC? I don't like the idea, but I don't necessarily object. Worth trying new things and learning from the results. :) -- Jason Etheridge | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Thomas Berezansky
I question how those who can't participate via IRC (assuming that is a goal here) and those who can't participate via the conference call will interact with each other. Not that I am sure I would be attending either way, but I am much more likely to participate in IRC than on a conference

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Anoop Atre
Are we talking about having the community meeting on IRC and a conference call? I'd rather not go that route. We have been doing well with IRC meetings for the last few years and now with the meetbot it's a lot more efficient in keeping notes. I actually would like future web team meetings to

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Ben Shum
Historically, the Community Meeting grew out of a need to disseminate information from various groups and committees to a larger group of people and it started as an extension of the Developer meetings conducted regularly in IRC. There was some discussion in those early days about the format

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich
On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:44 , Anoop Atre wrote: Are we talking about having the community meeting on IRC and a conference call? I'd rather not go that route. My suggestion was to have a conference call in parallel with the IRC chat line. We have been doing well with IRC meetings for the last

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Jason Etheridge
When it comes to interpersonal communication, online chat is a blunt instrument inferior to using voice for a number of natural reasons. As far as transparency of web team meetings, that's a different topic altogether, not sure why you bring it up here. The web team conference call is open

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
Alexey, I actually thought you were suggesting that the web team be on a conference call during the IRC meeting so we could work together (on the phone) to make sure we were providing a good overview of the pilot drupal evergreen site. That, I think is a fine idea. It was just a one-time thing

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
Just an FYI about IRC, there are plenty of people who don't participate in the community meetings because it is on IRC too. Not that I'm lobbying at this time to change the format (as I've already addressed) but I think IRC is a big leap for many people (despite how incredibly easy and

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Jason Etheridge
...but I think IRC is a big leap for many people (despite how incredibly easy and straight-forward it seems to all you developers out there!) As simple as following the web gateway link at http://evergreen-ils.org/chat.php :-) But yeah, still a mental barrier there if nothing else. Or maybe

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread David Busby
Yea, forgot that freenode operates their own webchat! My experience has been that once folks get into the room the rest of it is pretty easy - maybe learning a bit of irc etiquette (that can be our third goal ;) ) -- David Busby Edoceo, Inc. http://edoceo.com/ 206.282.6500 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
Hi Jason, Maybe, when we send out invites to the community meetings we should include info about the easy to use web interface that is available for anyone to use (even if you've never done IRC before) with some tips for newbies. Lori =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lori

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Tara Robertson
We're planning on doing a quick Intro to IRC session at next year's Evergreen conference (hey! have you registered yet? http://eg2013.evergreen-ils.org ) as well as having volunteers around to help folks get started on IRC. It's not hard, if you've chatted online with someone you can use IRC.

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
Thanks for the offer, David. Is there a limit to the number of people who can access IRC from a single web gateway? Lori On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, David Busby david.bu...@edoceo.comwrote: Yea, forgot that freenode operates their own webchat! My experience has been that once folks get

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
Jason, I think people don't realize web gateway means...hey, look! here's a way to do IRC if you don't even know what IRC means! Adding some particulars about key IRC commands including the basics like how to log in, introducing yourself, how to vote, when to speak up, and how to log off would

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Jason Etheridge
Maybe, when we send out invites to the community meetings we should include info about the easy to use web interface that is available for anyone to use (even if you've never done IRC before) with some tips for newbies. Sounds like a good idea to me. I think we may want to embiggen :) the

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread David Busby
I am not aware of any artificial limits. Some chat servers limit the number of connections to a room from the source IP which may impact all users on the gateway since they will share that gateway IP. Freenode likely has taken this into consideration and set those limits to high values. /me

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
Jason, Ja! On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jason Etheridge ja...@esilibrary.comwrote: Maybe, when we send out invites to the community meetings we should include info about the easy to use web interface that is available for anyone to use (even if you've never done IRC before) with

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread David Busby
Just noticed: a google-search for 'Evergreen chat' points to http://www.open-ils.org/irc.php - which appears to be the same page as http://evergreen-ils.org/chat.php - should we have a canonical name? HTTP/1.1 301 or http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=139394 And,

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Justin Hopkins
On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich alexey.la...@mnsu.edu wrote: When it comes to interpersonal communication, online chat is a blunt instrument inferior to using voice for a number of natural reasons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c Cheers, Justin

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Next community meeting is 14 September 2012, 17:00 UTC+0

2012-08-30 Thread Lori Bowen Ayre
LOL, love it! On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Justin Hopkins jus...@mobiusconsortium.org wrote: On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich alexey.la...@mnsu.edu wrote: When it comes to interpersonal communication, online chat is a blunt instrument inferior to using voice