Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-15 Thread Sharp, Chris
) on each vendor's web site. Thanks, Chris - Original Message - From: Chris Sharp csh...@georgialibraries.org To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:13:08 AM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-15 Thread Rogan Hamby
To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:13:08 AM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy Kathy, I was surprised to see that we were already requiring an Evergreen offering page, which

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-15 Thread Sharp, Chris
Rogan, We drew a lot on the Koha policy when we made it and while I think looking at other communities is useful at this point we've had the policy in place for a year and I think it's more important to look internal to our own community and our experiences. Maybe it would be useful to

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-15 Thread Rogan Hamby
Apologies in advance for this being long but like a board meeting that wavers out in and out of discussion points I'd like to assess where we are in this conversation. Replying to Chris: There wasn't a situation that prompted this. That has been part of what has confused me about responses I've

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-13 Thread Rogan Hamby
Postscript, I really don't want to redo the vendor policy but following the logic either we voted on what is written or we didn't. Is the verbiage on the wiki different than what was voted on? I had assumed it wasn't and was going by the wiki. P.P.S. I'm really not in favor of re-doing the

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-13 Thread Rogan Hamby
P.P.S. Checking the board vote on the IRC log on the WIKI the reference of the document for the vote was the one on the WIKI and checking it's revisions that language was in place when it was voted on. On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net wrote: Postscript,

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-12 Thread Jason Stephenson
Sent from my peronal email because I'm answering in my role as a vendor and independent community member and not in my role at MVLC. On 09/11/2014 04:27 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote: What I'm curious to know from Brad and other vendors is if this is something they would want to do. There have been a

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-12 Thread Rogan Hamby
So, I admit I'm perplexed by this, you see it as policing vendors rather than helping them to provide it even as an option? On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jason Stephenson ja...@sigio.com wrote: Sent from my peronal email because I'm answering in my role as a vendor and independent community

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-12 Thread Rogan Hamby
Here's part of my confusion, we already say that vendors listed are supposed to have an Evergreen offering page. This is copy and pasted from the Getting Listed on the Evergreen Paid Support Services Page on the WIKI: Show support for the Evergreen community by adding a visible link on their

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-12 Thread Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich
Perhaps by moving the link-back paragraph out of the “must” section and some minor wording changes the issue of appearing to mandate specific content on third-party websites could be avoided, for example: -- Getting Listed on the Evergreen Paid Support Services Page Companies and

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-12 Thread Justin Hopkins
Hi everyone! I've been watching this discussion for the last few days now. As it's been going on for quite some time, I've finally decided to share my thoughts. There have been several comments about the work required to maintain this page. Some folks seem to feel it's quite a bit of

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-12 Thread Sharp, Chris
For the record, +1 Chris - Original Message - From: Jason Etheridge ja...@esilibrary.com To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-11 Thread Kathy Lussier
Thanks for the feedback Brad and thanks to Chris for his comments! I have to say Chris' comments gave me a moment of pause to rethink the proposal. In thinking back to the time before we implemented the new vendor listing procedures, the community had a vendor page that included 1) several

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-11 Thread Rogan Hamby
What I'm curious to know from Brad and other vendors is if this is something they would want to do. There have been a lot of comments about this being a burden and almost in a tone as if it was a harassment to vendors. I envisioned it as a positive way of pointing community members to services

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Rylander
Rogan (and all), We're always looking for ways to make the ESI site easier to use, or provide more appropriate information about the services we provide. So the short answer is that, yes, we would absolutely want to put together a specific Evergreen Services page if that was what the general

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Catherine C Tuohy
...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby [rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 9:24 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy We (the Evergreen community) have had the vendor listing policy on the Evergreen

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Sharp, Chris
of? Thanks for listening! Chris - Original Message - From: Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 9:24:36 PM Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Rogan Hamby
@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 9:24:36 PM Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy We (the Evergreen community) have had the vendor listing policy on the Evergreen community web site for a little over a year now. In discussing possible changes one

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Sharp, Chris
Rogan, Thanks for your feedback to my questions. I'll respond in-line: - Original Message - From: Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net I'm only speaking for myself here but I don't think it's necessary but nor is the listing itself. It's a nice thing to do as a community to help

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Rogan Hamby
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Sharp, Chris csh...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Rogan, Thanks for your feedback to my questions. I'll respond in-line: - Original Message - From: Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net I'm only speaking for myself here but I don't think it's

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Sharp, Chris
Thanks again, Rogan, for the continued discussion on this. I'm glad we're able to air our respective opinions. There was some discussion during the meeting about it being suggested versus required. To me those elements that make it more user friendly should be required or we start diluting

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Rogan Hamby
No, I thank you for bringing up those points and I think you're right we do seem to have a slightly differently view of the intent and so these discussions are good to have. I hope we will hear from more folks! On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Sharp, Chris csh...@georgialibraries.org wrote:

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Kathy Lussier
Hi all, This has been a great discussion so far! In addition to hearing from the general user community, I'm also interested in hearing from the vendors who are part of our community. Please let us know what you think because I think we ultimately want to strike a balance between providing

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread W. Brad LaJeunesse
Speaking as one of the vendors, I don't see a link back requirement as a burden, but rather it seems a simple reciprocal gesture. It seems totally reasonable to me. It's not like you're asking us to cut down the largest tree in the forest with a herring. [1] I couldn't remember, so I just took a

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Rogan Hamby
I haven't looked at the Equinox website but if you have a page lusting your Evergreen services that we could link to that's all the web team would need, not a link back from there. Excuse my brevity, sent from my iPhone -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-08 Thread Rogan Hamby
P.S. Autocorrect apparently doesn't like the word 'listing.' Blame Steve Jobs :) Excuse my brevity, sent from my iPhone -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-07 Thread Rogan Hamby
We (the Evergreen community) have had the vendor listing policy on the Evergreen community web site for a little over a year now. In discussing possible changes one proposed change that we (the Evergreen Board) was favorable to was one that I have proposed. I have proposed that on the vendor

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Proposed change in Vendor Listing Policy

2014-09-07 Thread Forrest, Stuart
+1 excellent idea Stuart Forrest PhD Beaufort County Library Sent from my iPad On Sep 7, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netmailto:rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net wrote: We (the Evergreen community) have had the vendor listing policy on the Evergreen community web site for a