Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Language problems in Evergreen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: snip Well, OpenSRF 2.0 hasn't been released yet, but what I was saying in my last message that when it is released (due to a bug fix that I committed earlier), you should be able to install OpenSRF 2.0 and then install Evergreen 2.0 on top of that and get some relief from your patron issues. And now an updated OpenSRF 2.0 release candidate has been posted for download at http://evergreen-ils.org/downloads.php#opensrf - please try installing this, then install Evergreen 2.0 on top of it, and I believe the patron registration / search problems that you were seeing will disappear. -- Dan Scott Laurentian University
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen?
Hello, group. My system is currently evaluating both Koha and Evergreen as our open source alternatives. We are installing both on computers here in our library in order to test them out, visiting other libraries, reading this list as well as the one for Koha, and speaking to other librarians using one of these systems. It occurred to me that it might useful to know why other library system chose one system over the other. So, why did you choose Evergreen, and are you happy with your choice? Was it a difficult decision? You may write to me off-list if you are more comfortable with that. Thanks in advance, --Jim Maroon storypage at gmail.com -- == The man, who, by his own and his family's labour, can provide a sufficiency of food and raiment and a comfortable dwelling place, is not a poor man.--William Cobbett, *Cottage Economy*, 1826.
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Developer IRC meeting today at 12:00 EST (17:00 UTC)
A reminder that the development team is having an IRC meeting today on the #evergreen channel on the Freenode network. Everyone with an interest in what the Evergreen development team is doing is invited to attend. The agenda-in-the-works is at http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2011-03-01 ; for maximum efficiency, it is recommended to read through the agenda in advance of the meeting and post suggestions or responses in advance. Items on the agenda for today so far include: * OpenSRF 2.0.0 * PostgreSQL 9.0 support in Evergreen 2.0? * Patch review queue * Google Summer of Code application If you're interested in contributing to Evergreen, but development isn't your thing, keep your eye on http://evergreen-ils.org/calendar for other meetings that may be of interest to you and also check out the Contribute link on the header of the http://evergreen-ils.org home page for other ways to help the project!
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Website survey!
The Evergreen Communications/Web Team has been busily coming up with ways to keep improving evergreen-ils.org http://evergreen-ils.org/ (both for the short term and looking to the future). With your help, we've developed several user stories (see http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=webteam.user_stories_2011) and generated some ideas about functionality and content. Now we need to get a sense of priorities. We need to know what a completely revamped Evergreen-ils.org site should include and what's critical, important to some (but not others), or just nice to have. Maybe we are trying to do too much...maybe we have missed some critical pieces. With your help, we'll be able to figure that out. We've designed a survey so folks who are pressed for time have a way to quickly let us know their thoughts, but please keep discussing the website here on the list and on the wiki. If you have a few minutes (five minutes max), please take our survey. Tell us about how you're using the current Evergreen site and give us your feedback on some of the content and functionality we've identified as needed so far on the nextgen evergreen-ils.org http://evergreen-ils.org/ . Please distribute this survey widely - we want to hear from as many members of the Evergreen community as possible, including those interested in but not yet using Evergreen. It will only take a few minutes to complete but will have a big impact on the online hub of all things Evergreen! http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HVJ7SS5 Cheers, Kate (on behalf of the web team) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Kate Sheehan Open Source Implementation Coordinator Bibliomation, Inc. 32 Crest Rd. Middlebury, CT 06762 biblio.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen?
In my 11 year tenure as head librarian we are now on our 4th ILS. The only one who knew anything about the first ILS died suddenly, the second one was sold to a company that wasn't interested in the concerns of a regional library and didn't have Z39, which became a grant requirement, the 3rd one couldn't figure out how to co-ordinate loans between a multi-branch system so we switched to Evergreen and have never regretted it. No one person can die and take all the information with them, it can't be sold and Evergreen was originally set up as a consortium. We considered Koha but as we are a multi-branch regional Evergreen suited our needs much better. Mary Toma South Central Regional Library 160 Main Street Box 1540 Winkler, MB R6W 4B4 204-325-5864 204-822-4092 head...@scrlibrary.mb.ca From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Buster Sent: March 1, 2011 8:22 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen? Hello, group. My system is currently evaluating both Koha and Evergreen as our open source alternatives. We are installing both on computers here in our library in order to test them out, visiting other libraries, reading this list as well as the one for Koha, and speaking to other librarians using one of these systems. It occurred to me that it might useful to know why other library system chose one system over the other. So, why did you choose Evergreen, and are you happy with your choice? Was it a difficult decision? You may write to me off-list if you are more comfortable with that. Thanks in advance, --Jim Maroon storypage at gmail.com http://gmail.com/ -- == The man, who, by his own and his family's labour, can provide a sufficiency of food and raiment and a comfortable dwelling place, is not a poor man. --William Cobbett, Cottage Economy, 1826.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen?
Why Evergreen, and was it a hard decision? Yes, it was a hard decision. We looked at many options when we decided to upgrade out ILS. One was an entirely different software package from the same vendor. That would have saved us a lot of paperwork by doing a same vendor upgrade but it was in fact a whole new system with all the hassles that involves. One was an excellent software package from a wonderful closed source vendor. But, as great as they are, will they always? Would a venture capitalist one day buy them out and hold them hostage? For us the choice for Evergreen came down not just to what things look like today but assessing risk 5 and 10 years down the road. We also looked at features and speed of development. So far, two years down the road I think we were 100% correct in our decision to go to Evergreen. Were we always sure? Absolutely not. We took risks, risks that are getting smaller every month but when we went live a lot of the big players that are now joining and features available weren't. So, I think it's an easier analysis to someone to do now than it was two years ago when we had to be a bit of prophets. Rogan Hamby Systems Administrator, FCLS Systems Librarian, SCLENDs 509 S. Dargan Street Florence, SC 29506 843-413-7069 -Original Message- From: Mary Toma head...@scrlibrary.mb.ca To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:01:33 -0600 Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen? In my 11 year tenure as head librarian we are now on our 4th ILS. The only one who knew anything about the first ILS died suddenly, the second one was sold to a company that wasn’t interested in the concerns of a regional library and didn’t have Z39, which became a grant requirement, the 3rd one couldn’t figure out how to co-ordinate loans between a multi-branch system so we switched to Evergreen and have never regretted it. No one person can die and take all the information with them, it can’t be sold and Evergreen was originally set up as a consortium. We considered Koha but as we are a multi-branch regional Evergreen suited our needs much better. Mary TomaSouth Central Regional Library160 Main StreetBox 1540Winkler, MB R6W 4b4204-325-5864204-822-4092head...@scrlibrary.mb.ca From:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf OfBuster Sent: March 1, 2011 8:22 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen? Hello, group. My system is currently evaluating both Koha and Evergreen as our open source alternatives. We are installing both on computers here in our library in order to test them out, visiting other libraries, reading this list as well as the one for Koha, and speaking to other librarians using one of these systems. It occurred to me that it might useful to know why other library system chose one system over the other. So, why did you choose Evergreen, and are you happy with your choice? Was it a difficult decision? You may write to me off-list if you are more comfortable with th at. Thanks in advance, --Jim Maroon storypage at gmail.com [http://gmail.com/] -- == The man, who, by his own and his family's labour, can provide a sufficiency of food and raiment and a comfortable dwelling place, is not a poor man.--William Cobbett, Cottage Economy, 1826.
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] documentation for acquisitions
Hi, I've heard that GLPS (?) is working on documentation for 2.0 acquisitions. I'm messing about with it and it looks super flexible and that it will support various workflows. Unfortunately without documentation and not many clues in the UI I find myself going in circles and not making much progress. If anyone has draft documentation, or internal documentation to share, I'd be extremely grateful. Many thanks, Tara
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen?
There are a number of technical / architectural differences that could be highlighted but the relevance of these differences will of course depend upon your requirements. For one example, Evergreen's PostgreSQL's capapilities were of keen interest to us to better support GIS / geospatial type search requirements we have. So of course you'll want to tease out any technical requirements that are better served by one system over the other. Both since Koha Evergreen have so much to offer, I'd be reluctant to to generalize on some of these factors as one library's must have requirement is another's not applicable etc. But just as important for us was the community factor. At the time we jumped on board with an open source ILS, we had pre-existing relationships with virtually all existing early adoptors of Evergreen in Canada, but no relationships with any Koha libraries. So that helped us significantly, as these were folks we had engaged with on a variety of levels, but especially on Evergreen. So in a sense, we had a community already in place and had the confidence it would work for us when we finally decided to move to Evergreen. This is absolutely not to suggest that one community is better than the other, only that you may already have pre-existing networks that could help you succeed in moving in one direction over the other (as it did for us thanks to colleagues at Conifer, UPEI, BC Sitka). Evaluate, use and explore these synergies early on and your choice of Koha or Evergreen will pay off sooner. George Duimovich NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan Ottawa, Canada From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Buster Sent: March 1, 2011 09:22 To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Why Evergreen? Hello, group. My system is currently evaluating both Koha and Evergreen as our open source alternatives. We are installing both on computers here in our library in order to test them out, visiting other libraries, reading this list as well as the one for Koha, and speaking to other librarians using one of these systems. It occurred to me that it might useful to know why other library system chose one system over the other. So, why did you choose Evergreen, and are you happy with your choice? Was it a difficult decision? You may write to me off-list if you are more comfortable with that. Thanks in advance, --Jim Maroon storypage at gmail.com http://gmail.com/ -- == The man, who, by his own and his family's labour, can provide a sufficiency of food and raiment and a comfortable dwelling place, is not a poor man. --William Cobbett, Cottage Economy, 1826.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] documentation for acquisitions
Hi Tara, I've heard that GLPS (?) is working on documentation for 2.0 acquisitions. GPLS has contracted with Equinox Software to produce documentation for Evergreen 2.0 serials and acquisitions. I'm messing about with it and it looks super flexible and that it will support various workflows. Unfortunately without documentation and not many clues in the UI I find myself going in circles and not making much progress. If anyone has draft documentation, or internal documentation to share, I'd be extremely grateful. We are working with ESI on the final steps of this right now, and we will release it as soon as we can, so your question is very timely! Stay tuned, Chris Many thanks, Tara -- Chris Sharp PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory
It depends on how you define inventory. I have done a list of what should be on the shelves for a library (shelving location, title, call number and barcode ) and they manually verified that what was on the shelf matched the list, but we have not done a scan in every barcode to see what is on the shelves inventory Aaron Z Jr. Systems Administrator Pioneer Library System 2557 State Rt. 21 Canandaigua, New York 14424 Phone: (585) 394-8260 - Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.gov wrote: From: Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.gov To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:18:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory I am on a fact finding mission, so if anyone can tell me, have you taken an inventory since you migrated to Evergreen, how did you do it, were there problems, and are there reports to finalize it all and make sure everything scanned etc.? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Georgette Georgette Rogers Circulation Supervisor Liberty Lake Municipal Library 23123 E Mission Ave Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-435-0778 1-866-729-8507
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory
Thank you Aaron. I was looking for scan in inventory, if anyone has done that, but this is a helpful suggestion as well. Georgette Rogers Circulation Supervisor Liberty Lake Municipal Library 23123 E Mission Ave Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-435-0778 1-866-729-8507 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Z [aar...@pls-net.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:44 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory It depends on how you define inventory. I have done a list of what should be on the shelves for a library (shelving location, title, call number and barcode) and they manually verified that what was on the shelf matched the list, but we have not done a scan in every barcode to see what is on the shelves inventory Aaron Z Jr. Systems Administrator Pioneer Library System 2557 State Rt. 21 Canandaigua, New York 14424 Phone: (585) 394-8260 - Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.gov wrote: From: Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.gov To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:18:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory I am on a fact finding mission, so if anyone can tell me, have you taken an inventory since you migrated to Evergreen, how did you do it, were there problems, and are there reports to finalize it all and make sure everything scanned etc.? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Georgette Georgette Rogers Circulation Supervisor Liberty Lake Municipal Library 23123 E Mission Ave Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-435-0778 1-866-729-8507
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory
Hi Georgette, Several Sitka libraries have done inventory by scanning books on the shelves into a laptop w/ the Evergreen client, then running reports to identify missing items. For details see past discussion on this list at http://markmail.org/message/2yxyv4kwtdxb7h4s Jeremy -- Jeremy Buhler Trainer/Help Desk Specialist Sitka Evergreen Implementation On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.gov wrote: Thank you Aaron. I was looking for scan in inventory, if anyone has done that, but this is a helpful suggestion as well. *Georgette Rogers* *Circulation Supervisor* *Liberty Lake Municipal Library* *23123 E Mission Ave* *Liberty Lake, WA 99019* *509-435-0778* *1-866-729-8507* -- *From:* open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [ open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Z [ aar...@pls-net.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:44 AM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory It depends on how you define inventory. I have done a list of what should be on the shelves for a library (shelving location, title, call number and barcode) and they manually verified that what was on the shelf matched the list, but we have not done a scan in every barcode to see what is on the shelves inventory Aaron Z Jr. Systems Administrator Pioneer Library System 2557 State Rt. 21 Canandaigua, New York 14424 Phone: (585) 394-8260 - Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.gov wrote: From: Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.gov To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:18:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory I am on a fact finding mission, so if anyone can tell me, have you taken an inventory since you migrated to Evergreen, how did you do it, were there problems, and are there reports to finalize it all and make sure everything scanned etc.? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Georgette *Georgette Rogers* *Circulation Supervisor* *Liberty Lake Municipal Library* *23123 E Mission Ave* *Liberty Lake, WA 99019* *509-435-0778* *1-866-729-8507*
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic phone notification system for Evergreen
I don't think we were the first to use Asterisk. But maybe the first in a consortium and the calling isn't consortium wide? Kevin TNRD Library System (part of Sitka)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory
Hi Jeremy, Thank you for the information, this is most helpful! Georgette Georgette Rogers Circulation Supervisor Liberty Lake Municipal Library 23123 E Mission Ave Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-435-0778 1-866-729-8507 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Buhler [jeremy.buh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:14 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory Hi Georgette, Several Sitka libraries have done inventory by scanning books on the shelves into a laptop w/ the Evergreen client, then running reports to identify missing items. For details see past discussion on this list at http://markmail.org/message/2yxyv4kwtdxb7h4s Jeremy -- Jeremy Buhler Trainer/Help Desk Specialist Sitka Evergreen Implementation On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.govmailto:grog...@libertylakewa.gov wrote: Thank you Aaron. I was looking for scan in inventory, if anyone has done that, but this is a helpful suggestion as well. Georgette Rogers Circulation Supervisor Liberty Lake Municipal Library 23123 E Mission Ave Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-435-0778 1-866-729-8507 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Z [aar...@pls-net.orgmailto:aar...@pls-net.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:44 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory It depends on how you define inventory. I have done a list of what should be on the shelves for a library (shelving location, title, call number and barcode) and they manually verified that what was on the shelf matched the list, but we have not done a scan in every barcode to see what is on the shelves inventory Aaron Z Jr. Systems Administrator Pioneer Library System 2557 State Rt. 21 Canandaigua, New York 14424 Phone: (585) 394-8260 - Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.govmailto:grog...@libertylakewa.gov wrote: From: Georgette Rogers grog...@libertylakewa.govmailto:grog...@libertylakewa.gov To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:18:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inventory I am on a fact finding mission, so if anyone can tell me, have you taken an inventory since you migrated to Evergreen, how did you do it, were there problems, and are there reports to finalize it all and make sure everything scanned etc.? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Georgette Georgette Rogers Circulation Supervisor Liberty Lake Municipal Library 23123 E Mission Ave Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-435-0778 1-866-729-8507
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic phone notification system for Evergreen
Hi Jim, We are a member of the Sitka Evergreen consortium here in B.C. We are using Asterix for telephone calls. We only make calls to our patrons despite being part of a larger consortium. You can email me off list with more questions if you like. Melissa -- Melissa Lowenberg, Supervisor of Support Services TNRD Library System #300-465 Victoria Street Kamloops, BC V2C 2A9 Tel. 250-374-8866 Fax 250-374-8355 Please consider the environment before printing this email.
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ongoing conversion effort
Ok, I have managed to get most of the way through importing data now and have some new questions. Bib and holdings are in. Circulation is hopefully in. Think I understand enough to have billing records imported in the next day or so. The big question now is what causes fines to be generated? I have moved in circulation records and the system is up and running 24/7 yet no fines have been generated. I can look at a patron's record and see overdue books but they don't owe anything. I then checked in an overdue item and still no fine. So is there some nightly process I should be starting or have I somehow imported the circulation in such a way it is silently failing somewhere? A less important question is aged circulation. What causes a circulation event to become aged? The how is pretty clear, deleting a row from action.circulation fires a trigger that anonymizes it into aged_circulation. But what ages out old circulation events? I pulled in our entire past circulation (well back to the last automation change in '04) and they have all been happily sitting in circulation for a few days now. Here is a chunk of my import script where I'm hopefully stuffing in sane default values: my $duration = undef; #fine_interval my $fine_interval = '1 day'; #recuring_fine my $recuring_fine = undef; #max_fine my $max_fine = undef; #phone_renewal - bool my $phone_renewal = 'FALSE'; #desk_renewal - bool my $desk_renewal = 'FALSE'; #opac_renewal - bool my $opac_renewal = 'FALSE'; #duration_rule my $duration_rule = 'default'; #recuring_fine_rule my $recuring_fine_rule = 'default'; #max_fine_rule my $max_fine_rule = 'default'; #stop_fines my $stop_fines = undef; The other outstanding question is holds. Looking at the database after placing a hold to see what it is doing and still a bit fuzzy as to what I need to stuff in there to import existing holds. Need to understand two basic scenarios, an outstanding hold and one awaiting pickup. Here is what I think I am seeing. To place a hold I write an entry to action.hold_request and an entry to action.hold_copy_map for every copy of the item. If it is on the reserve shelf on import day I do the above two steps and set status in asset.copy to On holds shelf (8) and possibly place an entry in action.hold_notification? Is this enough to get things rolling? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ongoing conversion effort
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 23:41 -0500, Dan Scott wrote: So is there some nightly process I should be starting or have I somehow imported the circulation in such a way it is silently failing somewhere? Short answer, yes, you need to run scripts (at least nightly, and possibly more often if you have some loan durations that last less than a day). In the /openils/bin directory, see at least the following scripts: Doh! Ok, it was an RTFM, I just missed it. :) So I can check that one off the list. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
