Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Setting up for use in Britain

2014-05-16 Thread Anne Murray
If by 'this' you mean Evergreen, then the system has a location picklist
when you set it up and you can choose the British option.

Anne Murray
EDLC Trust
Kirkintilloch
Scotland


On 15 May 2014 23:40, Tom Collins t...@collinswinning.com wrote:

  Hi there,

  I want to use this in a British library, how would I go about changing
 currencies, date formats etc?

  Many thanks,

  Tom




Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-registration agreement

2014-05-16 Thread Chauncey Montgomery

Holly,
Could you just have a policy page with a check box that was prefaced 
with By checking this box, I agree to abide by all library policies, 
blah, blah, blah.  The patron wouldn't be able to finish registration 
without agreeing to the policy.  I am thinking something similar to the 
software agreements that no one ever reads.  I know that would also be 
the case with the self registration, but if a patron ever claimed that 
he didn't know your borrowing policies, then you could simply point out 
that when he registered, he had to confirm that he agreed to the policy 
to complete registration.

Just a thought.
CM

Chauncey G. Montgomery, MLIS
Director/Fiscal Officer | Community Library
44 Burrer Drive | Sunbury, OH 43074
740-965-3901 | http://community.lib.oh.us

On 05/15/2014 09:49 PM, Holly Brennan wrote:

Has anyone added an agreement for patrons to go along with patron
self-registration? Such as “I understand that I am responsible… blah
blah blah”

We would like to have something to agree to when patrons complete the
registration in person and they sign something (we’re thinking of
printing out their registration page).

The two ideas I have are:

-Add a blurb on the online registration so when they click Submit they
are agreeing (con: This disappears with the transaction and can’t be
pointed to later on)

- Add a blurb somehow in the staff patron registration so it prints with
all the info (con: I have no idea how to edit the registration area, or
if there is a character limit to each registration piece in the staff
client)

I like option 2, since it would print and patrons would sign just below
it. We’d then have it all on paper if we needed to go back to it. Our
library has a few custom registration pieces (gender and residency)
which appear at the bottom of the page, so I’m thinking of somehow
adding another piece, which will really just be a few sentences and not
really an option. Perhaps a checkbox that reads “I understand…” and is
auto-checked for every patron (like “Valid Address”).

Interested in any and all ideas on how others might have done this… or
not. Perhaps you’ve done away with the agreement all together (since no
one reads it anyway).

Thanks, team!

-Holly

Holly Brennan

Library Technology Specialist

Homer Public Library

907-235-3180 (main)

907-435-3154 (direct)

hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov





Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-registration agreement

2014-05-16 Thread Thomas Berezansky

On the subject of adding to the patron registration/edit screen:

You can add something like that globally by editing  
Open-ILS/src/templates/actor/user/register.tt2 to add your message to  
the bottom of the screen (before that last [% END %]). Then you can  
use whatever HTML you want.


Alternatively, just have a stack of agreement sheets that you attach  
the printed record to (I suspect that the printed record will be more  
than one page anyway), then it doesn't need to show up in the staff  
client at all.


Quoting Holly Brennan haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us:

Has anyone added an agreement for patrons to go along with patron  
self-registration? Such as I understand that I am responsible...  
blah blah blah


We would like to have something to agree to when patrons complete  
the registration in person and they sign something (we're thinking  
of printing out their registration page).


The two ideas I have are:
-Add a blurb on the online registration so when they click Submit  
they are agreeing (con: This disappears with the transaction and  
can't be pointed to later on)
- Add a blurb somehow in the staff patron registration so it prints  
with all the info (con: I have no idea how to edit the registration  
area, or if there is a character limit to each registration piece in  
the staff client)


I like option 2, since it would print and patrons would sign just  
below it. We'd then have it all on paper if we needed to go back to  
it. Our library has a few custom registration pieces (gender and  
residency) which appear at the bottom of the page, so I'm thinking  
of somehow adding another piece, which will really just be a few  
sentences and not really an option. Perhaps a checkbox that reads I  
understand... and is auto-checked for every patron (like Valid  
Address).


Interested in any and all ideas on how others might have done  
this... or not. Perhaps you've done away with the agreement all  
together (since no one reads it anyway).


Thanks, team!

-Holly





Holly Brennan
Library Technology Specialist
Homer Public Library
907-235-3180 (main)
907-435-3154 (direct)
hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov



Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-registration agreement

2014-05-16 Thread Holly Brennan
Thanks for your thoughts, Chauncey!

-Original Message-
From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Chauncey Montgomery
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:16 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-registration agreement

Holly,
Could you just have a policy page with a check box that was prefaced with By 
checking this box, I agree to abide by all library policies, blah, blah, blah. 
 The patron wouldn't be able to finish registration without agreeing to the 
policy.  I am thinking something similar to the software agreements that no one 
ever reads.  I know that would also be the case with the self registration, but 
if a patron ever claimed that he didn't know your borrowing policies, then you 
could simply point out that when he registered, he had to confirm that he 
agreed to the policy to complete registration.
Just a thought.
CM

Chauncey G. Montgomery, MLIS
Director/Fiscal Officer | Community Library
44 Burrer Drive | Sunbury, OH 43074
740-965-3901 | http://community.lib.oh.us

On 05/15/2014 09:49 PM, Holly Brennan wrote:
 Has anyone added an agreement for patrons to go along with patron 
 self-registration? Such as I understand that I am responsible... blah 
 blah blah

 We would like to have something to agree to when patrons complete the 
 registration in person and they sign something (we're thinking of 
 printing out their registration page).

 The two ideas I have are:

 -Add a blurb on the online registration so when they click Submit they 
 are agreeing (con: This disappears with the transaction and can't be 
 pointed to later on)

 - Add a blurb somehow in the staff patron registration so it prints 
 with all the info (con: I have no idea how to edit the registration 
 area, or if there is a character limit to each registration piece in 
 the staff
 client)

 I like option 2, since it would print and patrons would sign just 
 below it. We'd then have it all on paper if we needed to go back to 
 it. Our library has a few custom registration pieces (gender and 
 residency) which appear at the bottom of the page, so I'm thinking of 
 somehow adding another piece, which will really just be a few 
 sentences and not really an option. Perhaps a checkbox that reads I 
 understand... and is auto-checked for every patron (like Valid Address).

 Interested in any and all ideas on how others might have done this... or 
 not. Perhaps you've done away with the agreement all together (since 
 no one reads it anyway).

 Thanks, team!

 -Holly

 Holly Brennan

 Library Technology Specialist

 Homer Public Library

 907-235-3180 (main)

 907-435-3154 (direct)

 hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov




Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-registration agreement

2014-05-16 Thread Holly Brennan
After talking with staff today, we have agreed that having something printed 
and on record with the agreement and signature is best (something physical 
to point to). After confirming that we don't actually need a printed copy of 
all the patron info, I'm going to create an Agreement page that patrons will 
sign and date when they complete the registration in person. It will only have 
the terms of agreement and signature, with patron name and library card number 
at the top for filing purposes.

And just FYI, with the full  out-of-the-box registration fields, plus two 
custom ones, the patron info prints out to 3/4 of a page! I was very surprised 
by this. I thought of having a pre-printed agreement page with only text at the 
bottom, so we could use that paper to print the patron info at the top, but 
that would require remembering to put the special paper in, or having a 
designated printer for registrations.

Thanks for your input, tsbere! (with your ideas here and helping me get the 
permissions sorted out on IRC)

-Holly





-Original Message-
From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Berezansky
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:43 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-registration agreement

On the subject of adding to the patron registration/edit screen:

You can add something like that globally by editing
Open-ILS/src/templates/actor/user/register.tt2 to add your message to the 
bottom of the screen (before that last [% END %]). Then you can use whatever 
HTML you want.

Alternatively, just have a stack of agreement sheets that you attach the 
printed record to (I suspect that the printed record will be more than one page 
anyway), then it doesn't need to show up in the staff client at all.

Quoting Holly Brennan haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us:

 Has anyone added an agreement for patrons to go along with patron 
 self-registration? Such as I understand that I am responsible...
 blah blah blah

 We would like to have something to agree to when patrons complete the 
 registration in person and they sign something (we're thinking of 
 printing out their registration page).

 The two ideas I have are:
 -Add a blurb on the online registration so when they click Submit they 
 are agreeing (con: This disappears with the transaction and can't be 
 pointed to later on)
 - Add a blurb somehow in the staff patron registration so it prints 
 with all the info (con: I have no idea how to edit the registration 
 area, or if there is a character limit to each registration piece in 
 the staff client)

 I like option 2, since it would print and patrons would sign just 
 below it. We'd then have it all on paper if we needed to go back to 
 it. Our library has a few custom registration pieces (gender and
 residency) which appear at the bottom of the page, so I'm thinking of 
 somehow adding another piece, which will really just be a few 
 sentences and not really an option. Perhaps a checkbox that reads I 
 understand... and is auto-checked for every patron (like Valid 
 Address).

 Interested in any and all ideas on how others might have done this... 
 or not. Perhaps you've done away with the agreement all together 
 (since no one reads it anyway).

 Thanks, team!

 -Holly





 Holly Brennan
 Library Technology Specialist
 Homer Public Library
 907-235-3180 (main)
 907-435-3154 (direct)
 hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov


Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium