[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Group and User permissions

2014-11-21 Thread Walz, Jennifer
All -

  Ok.  I'm new but I am seeing some weird things and I am not sure if this is 
how the system works, or if there is something I am missing.

  We are on 2.6.1 in case that matters.

  So, as I understand it, you can set group permissions and assign a bunch of 
people to that profile (group) and they all have certain rights to do certain 
things.   I thought that maybe the user permissions were then available in case 
you might have one user or two in a group to ADD or DELETE certain permissions. 
   Is that not the case?   We might like to have maybe student workers all be 
circulators but one or two are given special permissions to work with 
cataloging or serials or such.Am I understanding this correctly?If we 
wanted to assign a circulator special elevated user permission for updating 
item records, I should be able to go into their patron record, open the user 
permission editor and assign them update_item_record (or some such).   Right?

Well, the problem is that we are trying to do something like that for several 
different pre-assigned groups and it is not working.   For the volunteer 
group for instance.  I have assigned several users in our system to that 
profile, but one or two need modifications.  When I go to that patron record, 
into the user permission editor, everything is greyed out and it won't let me 
change anything.   One or two permissions listed there I would like to remove 
(like Admin Toolbar!  What? For volunteers?) or even change the level at which 
they have permission.   Nope.  No dice.And where is that admin toolbar 
thing set anyway?Who gave volunteers that permission?  It is not listed in 
the group permissions editor.(they can also see and edit the Library 
Settings!)

  So, why can I change some user permissions for patrons (I am having no 
trouble with our catalogers), but others are all greyed out and won't let me 
add or delete anything in the user permission editor. Do I have to start 
all over and just create all new groups first??   (and I AM the admin and 
logged in as such when trying all of this)

  Thanks for any insights you have.

Jennifer

--
Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head ILS Monkey
Kinlaw Library -  Asbury University
One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390
859-858-3511 ext. 2269
jlw...@asbury.edu



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Group and User permissions

2014-11-21 Thread Elisabeth Keppler
Hi Jennifer,

Have you confirmed that the Work OU boxes in the Working Locations section
of the permissions editor are checked?  That tripped me up when we first
went live.

Thanks,
Lise

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Walz, Jennifer jlw...@asbury.edu wrote:

  All –



   Ok.  I’m new but I am seeing some weird things and I am not sure if this
 is how the system works, or if there is something I am missing.



   We are on 2.6.1 in case that matters.



   So, as I understand it, you can set group permissions and assign a bunch
 of people to that profile (group) and they all have certain rights to do
 certain things.   I thought that maybe the user permissions were then
 available in case you might have one user or two in a group to ADD or
 DELETE certain permissions.Is that not the case?   We might like to
 have maybe student workers all be “circulators” but one or two are given
 special permissions to work with cataloging or serials or such.Am I
 understanding this correctly?If we wanted to assign a “circulator”
 special elevated user permission for updating item records, I should be
 able to go into their patron record, open the user permission editor and
 assign them update_item_record (or some such).   Right?



 Well, the problem is that we are trying to do something like that for
 several different pre-assigned groups and it is not working.   For the
 “volunteer” group for instance.  I have assigned several users in our
 system to that profile, but one or two need modifications.  When I go to
 that patron record, into the user permission editor, everything is greyed
 out and it won’t let me change anything.   One or two permissions listed
 there I would like to remove (like Admin Toolbar!  What? For volunteers?)
 or even change the level at which they have permission.   Nope.  No
 dice.And where is that admin toolbar thing set anyway?Who gave
 volunteers that permission?  It is not listed in the group permissions
 editor.(they can also see and edit the Library Settings!)



   So, why can I change some user permissions for patrons (I am having no
 trouble with our “catalogers”), but others are all greyed out and won’t let
 me add or delete anything in the user permission editor. Do I have to
 start all over and just create all new groups first??   (and I AM the admin
 and logged in as such when trying all of this)



   Thanks for any insights you have.



 Jennifer



 --
 Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head ILS Monkey
 Kinlaw Library -  *Asbury University*
 One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390
 859-858-3511 ext. 2269
 jlw...@asbury.edu






-- 
Lise Keppler
Forsyth County Public Library
660 W 5th St
Winston Salem NC 27101
336-703-3070