Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Academic PAC flavor
Hi everyone, Here are some questions I have about the Academic PAC display. What would you think of taking the *... Read more* approach that Amazon uses for reviews and long text, for long notes and text? This eliminates the problem of clicking on a bar and finding it empty of content. It also would make it possible to keep the copy/item record data always visible on the screen without the need to scroll. What would you think of eliminating the Shelf browser bar and simply make the call number in the item/copy list a hot link to the Browse Call Number index? What do you think of making Contributor, Series, and Subject entries hot links to their respective Browse indexes? What do you think of having a MARC View tab instead of a MARC Record bar? What do you think of eliminating the Place Hold option in the Actions (?) text box and making it a column in the copy/items list? How about having tabs for Add to my list, Print, and Email, instead of having them in an Actions text box? Is it necessary to include available copies information in a separate area on the screen? Isn't the status column in the copy/items list sufficient? Whatchyathink? Don On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Walz, Jennifer jlw...@asbury.edu wrote: All - In general I will agree that more info from the record and less art or pretty stuff is wanted. However, all of that text in the mockup is pretty overwhelming on first glance. It would be nice if each section of large chunks of text were available, but not immediately viewable. I'm thinking of a drop down expanding box for each section. Much like the different views in Evergreen now: When the contents notes and summary are very long and open immediately on first view, the patron then has to scroll down quite a way to see the location information. Maybe the Location information could be further at the top of the screen? Other additional information that should be included right on the full record screen is the alternative formats – such as links to electronic copies and such. Generally though, I really like the layout of the markup version so far. Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of Research Distance Services Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:47 PM To: Evergreen General Discussion List Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Academic PAC flavor Hi all, As you may recall, the Evergreen for Academics group sent out a survey to the Evergreen community earlier this fall asking academic libraries to prioritize development needs for Evergreen that are particularly relevant to academic libraries. An Academic PAC flavor rose to the top of priorities in that survey, and Yamil Suarez and I agreed to work with others on defining what an academic PAC might look like. Yamil created a wiki page at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen_for_academics:pac_academic_flavor where we can begin to gather these ideas together. Based on previous discussions on this topic, some ideas for what should be incorporated in an academic PAC are more fields displayed on the bib record and less overall art. Does everyone agree that both of these are elements of an academic PAC? Are there any other features you would like to see in an academic PAC? Which fields need to be added that aren't currently available in the default catalog? Feel free to edit the wiki page directly with your ideas or to send them in response to this thread. I'll make sure any ideas raised in this thread end up on the wiki page. Thanks! Kathy -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier #evergreen IRC: kmlussier -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Academic PAC flavor
“What would you think of taking the ... Read more approach that Amazon uses for reviews and long text, for long notes and text?” I like this suggestion. This has been requested for the public library PAC as well. Jim Jim Keenan Library Applications Supervisor jkee...@cwmars.orgmailto:jkee...@cwmars.org 508-755-3323 x23 C/W MARS 67 Millbrook St., Suite 201 Worcester, MA 01606 P Save a tree! Please don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary. Currently reading Learning to Breathe Fire by J.C. Herz. From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:25 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Academic PAC flavor Hi everyone, Here are some questions I have about the Academic PAC display. What would you think of taking the ... Read more approach that Amazon uses for reviews and long text, for long notes and text? This eliminates the problem of clicking on a bar and finding it empty of content. It also would make it possible to keep the copy/item record data always visible on the screen without the need to scroll. What would you think of eliminating the Shelf browser bar and simply make the call number in the item/copy list a hot link to the Browse Call Number index? What do you think of making Contributor, Series, and Subject entries hot links to their respective Browse indexes? What do you think of having a MARC View tab instead of a MARC Record bar? What do you think of eliminating the Place Hold option in the Actions (?) text box and making it a column in the copy/items list? How about having tabs for Add to my list, Print, and Email, instead of having them in an Actions text box? Is it necessary to include available copies information in a separate area on the screen? Isn't the status column in the copy/items list sufficient? Whatchyathink? Don On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Walz, Jennifer jlw...@asbury.edumailto:jlw...@asbury.edu wrote: All - In general I will agree that more info from the record and less art or pretty stuff is wanted. However, all of that text in the mockup is pretty overwhelming on first glance. It would be nice if each section of large chunks of text were available, but not immediately viewable. I'm thinking of a drop down expanding box for each section. Much like the different views in Evergreen now: [cid:image001.jpg@01D00E09.0C424AB0] When the contents notes and summary are very long and open immediately on first view, the patron then has to scroll down quite a way to see the location information. Maybe the Location information could be further at the top of the screen? Other additional information that should be included right on the full record screen is the alternative formats – such as links to electronic copies and such. Generally though, I really like the layout of the markup version so far. Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of Research Distance Services Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269tel:859-858-3511%20ext.%202269 jlw...@asbury.edumailto:jlw...@asbury.edu -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:47 PM To: Evergreen General Discussion List Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Academic PAC flavor Hi all, As you may recall, the Evergreen for Academics group sent out a survey to the Evergreen community earlier this fall asking academic libraries to prioritize development needs for Evergreen that are particularly relevant to academic libraries. An Academic PAC flavor rose to the top of priorities in that survey, and Yamil Suarez and I agreed to work with others on defining what an academic PAC might look like. Yamil created a wiki page at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen_for_academics:pac_academic_flavor where we can begin to gather these ideas together. Based on previous discussions on this topic, some ideas for what should be incorporated in an academic PAC are more fields displayed on the bib record and less overall art. Does everyone agree that both of these are elements of an academic PAC? Are there any other features you would like to see in an academic PAC? Which fields need to be added that aren't currently available in the default catalog? Feel free to edit the wiki page directly with your ideas or to send them in response to this thread. I'll make sure any ideas raised in this thread end up on the wiki page. Thanks! Kathy -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] This Friday: Web Staff Client Documentation Day
Greetings Evergreeners, We are dedicating a whole day (or as much time as you can give) to documenting the new browser-based staff client. The new client is currently in preview stage, so we need to write some simple, helpful preview documentation to introduce library staff to the new design and any new features. What: Web Staff Client Documentation Day When: Friday, December 5, 2014 (approx. 8am - 5pm EST) Where: Online! Connect via IRChttp://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/, the wikihttp://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:webclient, and the Documentation email listmailto:open-ils-documentat...@list.georgialibraries.org Learn more (and assign yourself a task) at this wiki page: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:webclient Questions? Email me (r...@calvin.edumailto:r...@calvin.edu) or the Documentation Interest Group email list (open-ils-documentat...@list.georgialibraries.org) Jump in for an hour, or join us for the whole day! Of course, work will continue in the coming weeks, so we welcome your help any time. Remington -- Remington Steed Electronic Resources Specialist Hekman Library, Calvin College http://library.calvin.edu/
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Upcoming Documentation Interest Group Meeting: Thursday, December 4th, 2014
Hello everyone, The Evergreen Documentation Interest Group has its next meeting scheduled for Thursday, December 4th, 2014 at 2:00 PM EST on the #Evergreen IRC channel (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc). Anyone interested in documentation is welcome to attend. An agenda has been posted at http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meetings Changes and additions to the agenda are welcome. Here are the links to access the Meetbot formatted minutes of the previous meeting. (Meetbot) Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-11-06-14.00.html IRC Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-11-06-14.00.log.html Thanks, Yamil
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Academic PAC flavor
On 12/2/2014 6:25 AM, Donald Butterworth wrote: What would you think of taking the _... Read more_ approach that Amazon uses for reviews and long text, for long notes and text? This eliminates the problem of clicking on a bar and finding it empty of content. It also would make it possible to keep the copy/item record data always visible on the screen without the need to scroll. We definitely want the ability to truncate long fields with a More link. We want this for long summary and contents notes, as well as historical material with really long titles. We want to be able select which fields to truncate, the length for each, and the text to use for the more link (which should have a separate class for styling.) We'd also like to specify whether to show the truncated or full version of the field in each context: the basic search results, the detailed search results, and the bib/copy page. This isn't really an academic issue for us, it's just a display issue, and we run into really long fields for all types of material. I also think it's only tangentially related to the issue of whether or not to put content behind bars, at least for us. We want this mostly for fields we consider important enough to display above the copy display, not for the things below that are typically tucked behind bars. (We don't use the bars except for the MARC display.) What would you think of eliminating the Shelf browser bar and simply make the call number in the item/copy list a hot link to the Browse Call Number index? We don't display the Shelf Browser at all right now, but would not want the call number to be a hot link to the call number index. We had a lot of complaints about this on our previous system -- users would click through the search results to the bib/copy screen, see the call number as a link and click it, not realizing they had already reached their final destination. I am not sure what people expected -- full text or more detailed information about the location of the book, but it was definitely an issue. If anything, I'd want a link next to the call number that said something like Browse call numbers. But I am assuming that the academic flavor would be something we could all customize like we do the current files. Is it necessary to include available copies information in a separate area on the screen? Isn't the status column in the copy/items list sufficient? This might depend on how long the list of copies is likely to be. For a consortium, the list may be much longer than what is displayed by default, and for titles with many copies per library (more common for public library bestsellers) it's handy to be able to see at a glance whether or not there are any available copies of some titles. -- Elizabeth Thomsen, Member Services Manager NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange 26 Cherry Hill Drive Danvers MA 01923 E-mail: e...@noblenet.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Academic PAC flavor
On 2014-12-02, at 05:25 , Donald Butterworth don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu wrote: What would you think of taking the ... Read more approach that Amazon uses for reviews and long text, for long notes and text? This eliminates the problem of clicking on a bar and finding it empty of content. It also would make it possible to keep the copy/item record data always visible on the screen without the need to scroll. The feature sounds like a good idea. If implemented, consider using specific descriptive phrases like View complete summary” or “View full contents” instead of repeating the same link text multiple times on one page. Aleksey Lazar IS Developer and Integrator - PALS http://www.mnpals.org/
