Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [External] Re: Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

2018-11-07 Thread Sarah Childs
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> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Elaine Hardy 
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> +1 Sarah!
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> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Janet Schrader 
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> +1 to holdings.
> I like that because it's consistent with "Holdings transfer" and can be
> either a copy or a volume. Holdings should be familiar to any librarian who
> used MARC record loads to create items 852 or 94x fields.
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> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Sarah Childs 
> wrote:
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> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Elaine Hardy 
> wrote:
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> I do like Holdings transfer. I think it is a good descriptor of what we
> are doing with the functionality.
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> A little quibble, though with not having the button labelled Add volumes
> and copies. I realize that is cumbersome, however, it is more descriptive,
> especially from a cataloger's point of view.
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>
> Maybe it should be labeled "Add Holdings"?   Then it's distinct from both
> Add Volumes and Add Copies.
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Question about label names in Print Item Labels interface

2018-08-16 Thread Sarah Childs
One thing I'm wondering about this is do most libraries that use the
"pocket" labels use them for labels they put on a pocket or for other
purposes, like as a property label?  Is the term pocket label obvious now
that many libraries no longer use pockets?

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Kathy Lussier  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm sending along a question to the list that I also posted on Launchpad
> at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1787479.
>
> We have been working with Emerald Data Networks on code that would allow
> printing spine / pocket labels to an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet. The code is still a
> work in progress, but, in initial testing, we're finding some difficulty
> using the names given to these label in the web client.
>
> When item label printing was added to the web client, Jason Etheridge
> noted in bug 1704873 that they called this interface Item labels to make it
> a little more generic. I'm guessing this is also why the spine and pocket
> labels were renamed as left and right label, which works well in the
> current implementation.
>
> We've been trying to maintain the spirit of a more generic interface, but
> have been struggling with the left / right designations under this project.
>
> Here is the problem. Under our current implementation, a label set doesn't
> always have to be one spine (left) label and one pocket (right) label.
> There is a place where users can designate that the left label be used for
> column 1, the right label for column 2, and another right label for column
> 3. They could also conceivably put the right label in column 1, in which
> case it would appear to the left of the left label. With this additional
> flexibility, the 'left' and 'right' labels don't really make sense.
>
> I tried to keep things generic by renaming them as label 1 and label 2,
> but these terms have turned out to be a little too generic and lead to a
> less intuitive UI.
>
> I would like to float the idea of returning to spine / pocket as the
> labels. Staff understand what these labels mean, and it will help us in
> providing clearer explanations on what different settings do. However, I'm
> also open to other ideas people may have.
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> Kathy
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

2018-08-09 Thread Sarah Childs
 On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Elaine Hardy 
wrote:

> I do like Holdings transfer. I think it is a good descriptor of what we
> are doing with the functionality.
>
> A little quibble, though with not having the button labelled Add volumes
> and copies. I realize that is cumbersome, however, it is more descriptive,
> especially from a cataloger's point of view.
>

Maybe it should be labeled "Add Holdings"?   Then it's distinct from both
Add Volumes and Add Copies.


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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

2018-08-08 Thread Sarah Childs
> From Jennifer:
>
> If we stick with item (which implies copy, call number, and barcode), that
>> keeps it very simple. Copies has the implication of multiple copies of
>> a title of a book, whereas we mean more than that in most systems because
>> we will have different kinds of physical things attached to one MARC
>> record.Using the term ‘items’ keeps it most generic.
>
>
Kathy said:

>
>
I disagree with the idea that item implies copy, call number and barcode.
> IMO, we are choosing the best term to describe what lives in the asset.copy
> table, which certainly could be a physical thing rather than a copy of a
> book, but is not the same thing as a call number, which can contain
> multiple items/copies, or a barcode, which is an identifier for that
> item/copy. We need to be very precise in what we call these entities in the
> client. When we are referring to a call number, we should say call number
> (or volume).
>
> I like Dan's approach of using 'holdings' when we need some way to refer
> to a group that can contain items/copies and/or call numbers.
>

I like this idea of holdings when talking about call number + item
groupings.   But I do think the term item is better than the term copy,
because I think Jennifer is right about copy implying that there is more
than one of the same thing. There might be only one, or there might be
multiple items which are parts as opposed to "copies."  You have to add
items to create parts, and it seems weird to say you are adding copies in
that instance, since they are all different things.


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

2018-08-08 Thread Sarah Childs
+1

I agree with Jennifer about consistency being desirable, and preferring the
term items.

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Walz, Jennifer  wrote:

> All –
>
>
>
>   I would prefer the ITEM and ITEM LOCATION designators – and consistency
> across all functions / buttons / screens / views etc would be very welcome.
>
>
>
> As Dan and Lynn point out below, there have been VAST inconsistencies and
> also problems with function.If we stick with item (which implies copy,
> call number, and barcode), that keeps it very simple. Copies has the
> implication of multiple copies of a title of a book, whereas we mean more
> than that in most systems because we will have different kinds of physical
> things attached to one MARC record.Using the term ‘items’ keeps it most
> generic.
>
>
>
>   Thanks!
>
>
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-
> boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Wells
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 07, 2018 6:52 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in
> the web client
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> As for the "Add Volumes" vs "Add Copies", the problem there was that the
> omnibus branch created an "Add Volume" menu entry within the holdings view
> which did exactly that, add an empty "volume" (call number) with no copy.
> It felt like bad design to have this menu entry for "Add Volume" which only
> added the call number while also having an "Add Volumes" button which added
> both the call number and the copy.  An early revision, for maximum clarity,
> relabeled the record-level button to "Add Volumes and Copies", but a long
> button label such as that brings its own challenges.  It was then reasoned
> that "Add Copies" in some sense implicitly means (at the record level) "Add
> (Volumes and) Copies", since you can't have the second without the first.
> And thus the current label was born.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dan
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>
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Lynn Floyd 
> wrote:
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> I came up with another terminology that should be looked at Call Number
> vs. Volume.  There are lots of places where these terms are used
> interchangeably.
>
>
>
> Lynn Floyd
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> lfl...@andersonlibrary.org
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> Anderson County Library
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> Anderson, SC
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Possible bug? RE: merging

2018-06-13 Thread Sarah Childs
The other cataloger here tells me he noticed the same thing yesterday.
Sounds like a bug report is in order.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Elaine Hardy 
wrote:

> It does look like a bug. I just tried in 3.0.2 to use both edit functions
> while merging and the edits were not saved to the merged record.
>
> I don't typically make edits while merging so would not have caught thit
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
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> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Kate Coleman 
> wrote:
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>> I've searched through Launchpad and even release notes, but thought I
>> might pop in and ask really quickly in case anyone knows off the top of
>> their head...
>>
>> When merging records in the webclient (I'm using 3.0.2), in the merge
>> screen, there is an option to Edit and also an option to Edit using full
>> editor. You can make these edits, and hit the save button, but the edits
>> are not actually saved in the merged record. Anyone else?  I'm not the best
>> at searching bugs, it seems, so I wasn't sure if this issue had been
>> addressed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Kate Coleman
>> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
>> Technical Services Supervisor
>> 5678 State Rd. PP
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Edelweiss Analytics script

2018-05-16 Thread Sarah Childs
Awesome! Thanks so much!

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Andrea Buntz Neiman <
abnei...@equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:

> Hi Evergreeners!
>
> I wanted to let you know that Equinox has written a script to export data
> from Evergreen & FTP it into the Edelweiss Analytics service provided by
> Above The Treeline.  This script is available under the GPL 2+, and can be
> found here:
>
> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/equinox.git;a=tree;
> f=above_the_treeline;hb=master
>
> The directory includes both the script itself and some administrator-level
> documentation.
>
> Many thanks to Above The Treeline for funding this development, and for
> Richland Public Library for being the first user!
>
> Andrea
>
>
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[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cards v. White Sox tonight

2018-05-01 Thread Sarah Childs
If you are interested in going to the baseball game tonight, a couple of 
Indiana folks are driving over there. I think we have four out of 9-10 vehicle 
seats spoken for, so if you want to go,  reply to me or text me at 317-626-3949.

Sarah Childs

> On Apr 30, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Blake Henderson <bl...@mobiusconsortium.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Apparently 104 is off limits tonight. We are in the lobby now
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 7:17 PM Jason Etheridge <ja...@equinoxinitiative.org> 
>> wrote:
>> Blake is always the spy (even when he's not).
>> 
>> -- Jason
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 6:36 PM Ruth Frasur <direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> EOB meets at 7:30. Blake is a spy.
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 5:24 PM Blake Henderson <bl...@mobiusconsortium.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone is interested, games can happen!
>>>> 
>>>> Room 104
>>>> I'll get things heated up around 8pm.
>>>> 
>>>> Some ideas for games:
>>>> Resistance
>>>> ...
>>>> ..
>>>> Something else?
>>>> Something else?
>>>> 
>>>> But seriously,
>>>> Asara
>>>> Terraforming Mars
>>>> Terra Mystica
>>>> Smallworld
>>>> Splendor
>>>> Carcassonne
>>>> Codenames
>>>> 7 Wonders
>>>> Between Two Cities
>>>> Tyrants of the Underdark
>>>> Captain Sonar
>>>> Uno
>>>> Through the Ages
>>>> Pandemic Cthulhu
>>>> 
>>>> To name a few.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> -Blake-
>>>> Conducting Magic
>>>> MOBIUS
>>>> 


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Normalizing full stops in personal author names

2018-03-07 Thread Sarah Childs
With the second approach, can it be a space and a single letter, regardless
of case?  In at least one example (k.d. lang), the authorized version is in
lowercase, and there are probably others.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Josh Stompro <stomp...@exchange.larl.org>
wrote:

> Hello, I’m curious what the correct approach is for dealing with multiple
> entries in the browse and facet lists, when the difference is just the
> ending period/full stop.
>
>
>
> For example, Some of the records have
>
> =100 1\$aAdler-Olsen, Jussi,$eauthor.
>
> And some have
>
> =100 1\$aAdler-Olsen, Jussi.
>
>
>
> This results in two facet lines and two browse lines for the same author.
>
>
>
> Is the correct approach to normalize the data?
>
>
>
> Or would an index normalizer be appropriate here, something to remove
> periods when they are not preceded by a space and a single capital letter?
>
> Something like “r/([^ ][^A-Z])(\.)$/$1/”
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Lake Agassiz Regional Library - Moorhead MN larl.org
>
> Josh Stompro | Office 218.233.3757 EXT-139 <(218)%20233-3757>
>
> LARL IT Director | Cell 218.790.2110 <(218)%20790-2110>
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9

2018-02-06 Thread Sarah Childs
These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it
makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned
about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most
of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has
more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's
examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being
able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more
useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org>
wrote:

> Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
> mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
> look like.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXvi7yTssMpuYw
> 2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
> Jeanette
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sarah,
>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>
>> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280
>> x 1024 resolution.
>> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and
>> 7 rows of the search result
>> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons
>> and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows
>> before having to scroll.
>>
>> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
>> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
>> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
>> the search button.
>>
>> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if you
>> think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <open-ils-general-request@list
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>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500
>>> From: Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org>
>>> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
>>> <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
>>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern
>>> California Linux Expo
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>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
>>> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project would
>>> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the
>>> project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be
>>> interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a
>>> booth, feel free to send me an email directly. The Outreach Committee
>>> would be able to send you some materials for the booth.
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>>
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>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
>>> From: Sarah Childs <sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org>
>>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
>>> <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
>>> Message-ID:
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Acquisitions Interest Group meeting minutes & request for dedicated Acquisitions Listserv

2017-04-21 Thread Sarah Childs
I would vote no, also. I agree that the cataloging listserv is currently
very low volume, and I would not mind at all seeing the acquisitions
discussion on the cataloging list if a relatively quiet space is needed to
hash things out. I say this as a subscriber to the cataloging listserv with
no direct interest in acq, as we're not currently using it at my library. I
think including all tech services topics on the cataloging list is totally
appropriate.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Christine Burns <
christine.bu...@bc.libraries.coop> wrote:

> Hello
>
> The Acquisitions Interest Group is requesting an Acquisitions specific
> listserv.  Currently Acquisitions falls under the Cataloguers list with the
> rest of technicial services.  During the Acquisitions Interest Group
> meeting at the Evergreen Conference this month the group discussed the need
> for an Acquisitions specific listserv to facilitate AIG activity. We are
> anticipating an increased amount of Acquisitions specific discussions
> during the Angularization of the Acquisitions module in the web client.
>
> This topic is open for discussion please voice your opinion by *Friday
> May 5th*.
>
> A copy of the meeting minutes can be found on the Acquisitions Interest
> Group wiki page here - https://wiki.evergreen-ils.
> org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group
>
> Thank you
> Christine
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?

2017-03-22 Thread Sarah Childs
Hopefully there will be a quick resolution. The problem seems to be
affecting a lot of libraries.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu>
wrote:

> We might end up using Vandelay, but we might also just wait for this
> issue to be resolved.  There's no shortage of other things to do
> around here. :-)
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Elaine Hardy
> <eha...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> > OH NO!
> >
> > Can you use Vandeley for the duration of the error? Before I reported the
> > problem with OCLC I used it to overlay a record to check if the issue was
> > more widespread than the Z39.50 interface. Diacritics were fine.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Elaine Hardy
> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30045
> >
> > 404.235.7128 Office
> > 404.548.4241 Cell
> > 404.235.7201 FAX
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks, Elaine and Galen!  I did submit a launchpad bug
> >> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1675074), please feel free
> >> to comment on or refine it.
> >>
> >> And here's hoping that OCLC fixes this soon!  It happened while we
> >> were in the middle of a Spanish-language cataloging project; not a
> >> great time for diacritics issues. :-(
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Galen Charlton
> >> <g...@equinoxinitiative.org> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg <
> sand...@linnbenton.edu>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset
> >> >> and fix this problem?
> >> >
> >> > Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it
> >> > would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server
> >> > character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that
> >> > default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug
> >> > if you haven't done so already.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Galen
> >> > --
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> >> > Infrastructure and Added Services Manager
> >> > Equinox Open Library Initiative
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> >> > direct: +1 770-709-5581
> >> > cell:   +1 404-984-4366
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

2017-03-16 Thread Sarah Childs
Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this
magic?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu>
wrote:

> We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
> program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
> anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
> them, and re-import them.
>
> Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
> OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
> <eha...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> > While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an
> OCLC
> > WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed to
> > work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now might
> > mean adding them back later.
> >
> > We don't add them, either to records without them or to original input in
> > OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to add FAST
> > headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add them; but,
> > you can if you want.
> >
> > I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display since
> they
> > are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance. I do also
> > agree that they are messy.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Elaine Hardy
> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30045
> >
> > 404.235.7128 Office
> > 404.548.4241 Cell
> > 404.235.7201 FAX
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA)
> > <rose.scho...@lva.virginia.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to
> >> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
> >>
> >> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and
> thought
> >> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to
> take
> >> them out?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any replies.
> >> —
> >> Rose M. Schooff
> >> Technology Consultant
> >> Library Development and Networking
> >> The Library of Virginia
> >> 800 E. Broad Street
> >> Richmond, VA  23219
> >> 804-692-3772
> >> 804-310-7901
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

2017-03-15 Thread Sarah Childs
We are keeping them in the records, but we are suppressing them so they
don't display in the OPAC.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA) <
rose.scho...@lva.virginia.gov> wrote:

> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to
> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
>
> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and thought
> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to take
> them out?
>
> Thanks for any replies.
> —
> Rose M. Schooff
> Technology Consultant
> Library Development and Networking
> The Library of Virginia
> 800 E. Broad Street
> Richmond, VA  23219
> 804-692-3772 <(804)%20692-3772>
> 804-310-7901 <(804)%20310-7901>
>
>


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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Searchable Copy Notes

2016-05-19 Thread Sarah Childs
My first thought is that like us, the libraries in Scott's consortium
likely already have 1000s of existing copy notes that they want to be able
to search. The alternate proposal sounds interesting, but I want to be able
to search all the data that I already have. We've been using Evergreen
since 2008, so we have many, many existing copy notes I'd like to be able
to search.

It sound like we use copy notes in a similar way. We put notes about
various memorials. We also do annual "benefactor" notes for special Friend
of the Library gifts. We also do notes which honor library volunteers each
year. Basically, any time we do a book plate, we also add a copy note. It
would be very useful to be able to search the copy note information. It
would also be useful to have copy note templates that could be applied to
multiple copies at once.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Mike Rylander <mrylan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Since your main use case is about applying the same message to many
> specific copies, like a "digital book plate", it might be interesting to
> consider using copy buckets with a new type of, say, "donation", instead.
> Each bucket of that type would get its own name and description fields,
> analogous to the title and value fields on copy notes.  Here are some
> benefits I see:
>
>  * By only having the one bucket for a given donation, regardless of the
> number of items, we avoid human error on the note entry.
>  * Also, searching the name and description strings becomes very "cheap"
> compared to copy note title/value, since there is only the one bucket
> rather than a note per item.
>  * We already have specialized bucket-related interfaces already, which
> allow seeing the item set as a whole and manipulating them together.
>  * A URL can already be created that points any user, via the OPAC, at the
> set of records with items in the container, and (as a bonus) searches can
> be performed /within/ that set.
>  * Because we have container-specific logic in the search code already,
> it's a (much, much, much) simpler path to add "searching" on name or
> description of these donation buckets, rather than copy notes.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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>  | web:  http://www.esilibrary.com
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:14 PM, scott.tho...@sparkpa.org <
> scott.tho...@sparkpa.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>   We are trying to gauge community support for creating, in the staff
>> client, a keyword search interface for Copy Notes. We are a statewide
>> consortium. Since bib records are shared, we do not allow our members to
>> use Local Notes tags like 590 for very localized information like “In
>> memory of Jim Jones” or “Donated by Harry Haynes.” The problem is that
>> descendants of Mr. Jones and Mr. Haynes himself might come in and demand to
>> know what items come up, and we have no way of doing that (other than
>> reports which cannot easily be run by front-line staff). Would anyone else
>> like to see a search interface for Copy Notes? Also, what kind of
>> information do other libraries and consortia place in Copy Notes?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Thomas
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> *PaILS / SPARK*
>>
>> (717) 873-9461
>>
>> scott.tho...@sparkpa.org
>>
>> [image: Description: Description: Training | SPARK – Pennsylvania's
>> Statewide Library System] <http://www.palibrary.org/pails/>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant

2016-03-19 Thread Sarah Childs
I think both of those sound like great ideas, and I would be willing to
help with bootcamp planning.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, McCanna, Terran <
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> I'm with Jim - all good ideas, but personally I would LOVE to attend a
> developer bootcamp. Each time I look at the code I learn something new
> about how it works, but I'm sure I could contribute a lot more if I had
> several solid days of training.
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Taylor" <jtay...@jtdata.com>
> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" <
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:33:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
>
> All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the
> bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such
> purposes).  I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so
> definitely would attend if travel was covered.  I would like to contribute
> code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it
> out on my own.  If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for
> a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up.
>
> Jim
>
>
> My questions related to the bootcamp idea are:
>
> * Does this sounds like a good idea?
> * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors
> for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on
> this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also,
> please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp
> would be covered by the grant.
> * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for
> the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of
> volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request.
> * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways
> we can improve upon this idea?
>
> Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to
> hearing your thoughts!
>
> Kathy
>
>
>


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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] IRC Discussions on Evergreen search

2016-03-15 Thread Sarah Childs
 along all of the 
>>>>> chat
>>>>> sessions.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you didn't fill out the first poll, you're certainly welcome to
>>>>> sign up for any of these time slots.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to let me know if you have any questions!
>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/29/2016 04:26 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sending out a reminder to fill out the Doodle poll at
>>>>>> http://doodle.com/poll/hkdy3u5255u3rpmr if you are interested in
>>>>>> talking about search in Evergreen. I'm going to set some dates tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/19/2016 05:54 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During the dev hack-a-way in November, we had a discussion regarding
>>>>>>> Evergreen search. The discussion happened at the request of MassLNC 
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>> we had some local discussions regarding what our overall goals for
>>>>>>> Evergreen search are. We view  search as one of the most important 
>>>>>>> pieces
>>>>>>> of the ILS, if not the most important. It's what allows our users to 
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> those resources we spend so much time cataloging so that they can then
>>>>>>> place holds on them, check them out from the library, or access them in
>>>>>>> some other way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I left the hack-a-way with an action item to start a larger
>>>>>>> community discussion where we could identify some high-level goals for 
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> we want Evergreen search to be and where we could define what we 
>>>>>>> consider
>>>>>>> to be important factors in search relevance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to start this discussion with some focus-group-like
>>>>>>> discussions in IRC where community members could identify the features 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> like about the current search and where they see room for improvement. 
>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>> hope is that these discussions can help us define what we consider to 
>>>>>>> be an
>>>>>>> ideal search system for Evergreen and allow the dev community to explore
>>>>>>> options for making that ideal search system happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the discussions will work best if they are not too large, so
>>>>>>> I anticipate scheduling two or three or more depending on interest. If 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> are interested in participating, please fill out the Doodle at
>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/poll/hkdy3u5255u3rpmr. I'll try my best to
>>>>>>> schedule these discussions so that anyone who shows interest through the
>>>>>>> Doodle poll has a chance to participate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have also talked to Yamil Suarez about scheduling some "Intro to
>>>>>>> IRC" sessions ahead of time so that people who are unfamiliar with IRC 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a chance to learn about it before the scheduled search discussions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to let me know if you have any questions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Non-Public Copy Notes

2015-08-05 Thread Sarah Childs
That's my understanding. Whenever I place a hold on a particular copy for
some reason, I use private copy notes to jog my memory about what I need to
do with that item, since it can be a few weeks before the hold is filled.
That is to me useful since I know it is there to look for it.  You can also
generate reports that contain them, so they could be used for projects. On
the whole, though, I agree with you, they are not particularly useful,
since other staff will never see them unless they specifically seek them
out, and it is very tedious to access them.

I've always thought it would be very helpful if there was an option for
copy notes in the column picker. I could use it for checking my public copy
notes without viewing every item in the OPAC, and it would make private
copy notes much more readily visible to staff.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Scott Thomas sc...@albright.org wrote:

 We have been doing some tests with Copy Notes. My assumption was that, if
 you did not mark the “Public” checkbox when creating a note, it would
 appear in catalog displays in the staff client, but not in the public
 catalog. Our tests revealed that non-public Copy Notes appear…well…nowhere
 except in Edit Item Attributes / Copy Notes. This, of course, renders them
 pretty much useless. Am I missing something?

 Scott





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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)

2015-05-29 Thread Sarah Childs
In response to Dan's points

a) Yes.
b) Yes.
c) I think this is a discussion issue as well. I would prefer using no
terms at all when there is no term or code, because it's not possible to
sufficiently determine the relationship of the person to the work.  A 700
field in a book record could be for an added author, an illustrator, an
editor, a preface author, etc.  For media, the possibilities are equally
varied or even moreso.  I think if no information is supplied in the
record, we shouldn't try to supply a descriptor. Just give the name. It's
frequently explained in notes or the 245.
d) Yes. This but this situation would be fairly rare, so I think it's the
least pressing issue. I'm fine with giving subfield 4 precedence.
e) Haven't noticed anything in this area, but it would be wise to look into
it and resolve if needed.


The terms in RDA are controlled-ish.  There is a list of terms to be used,
but catalogers can supply their own if none in the list are considered
appropriate.


On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote:

 It sounds like there are a few issues here, let me see if I can separate
 them out:

 a) bug: relator term $e is not being recognized as the relator, but is
 included in the text display along with parenthetical notation for the
 default relationship (e.g. 700 = (added author))
 b) bug: multiple $4 relator codes are not displayed properly, where
 properly might mean something like $700 $a White, Jack $4 cre $4 dir
 should be displayed as White, Jack (creator, director)
 c) bug: the default relationship of added author for 7xx fields when no
 relator code or term is specified needs to reflect the underlying item type
 (e.g. for a musical recording, should display something like Added artist)
 d) discussion issue: when both $e relator terms and $4 relator codes are
 included in the same field, it's not clear what to display
 e) (unknown if this is an issue, but probably) $e relator terms and $4
 relator codes may or may not be indexed as expected

 For my part on (d), I'm still firmly of the belief that $4 relator code
 should take precedence; it's value can easily be translated in the display
 (and is, for French) and can be used for linked data (like pointing to
 http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/dtc), whereas the $e relator terms
 are effectively uncontrolled text fields that make both translation and
 linked data much, much more difficult.

 Dan

 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Hardy, Elaine 
 eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote:

 +1





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 *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
 open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Sarah
 Childs
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 4:51 PM
 *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
 *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is
 this bug 958954?)



 A summary of what I propose:

 If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed.

 Display subfield e if present

 Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present

 If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is
 fine with me)











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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)

2015-05-28 Thread Sarah Childs
It seems that the current behavior is that there is always a parenthetical,
and if there is a subfield e present, it always displays as well.

I added a subfield 4 to a record, and it appears that what the bug fix does
is to use the code from the subfield 4 to replace the parenthetical
information with more descriptive information than the default.
Unfortunately, the subfield 4 is actually used really rarely, because it's
optional and catalogers never really got on board with it. So the vast
majority of the time you get the default, which is either (Author) for the
100 field or (Added Author) for the 100 field.  That's so general as to be
not particularly useful, since when it's accurate that information is
usually clear from the 245, which is displayed above it. For media it's
basically always wrong, and it's wrong pretty frequently for books, too.

Based on that, the main change I'd like to see is that the parenthetical
not be displayed when there is no subfield 4. Right now if we have both
subfield 4 and subfield e, both are displayed, so I wouldn't really
describe subfield e as a fallback.  I think if both are present we should
display one or the other, but I don't really feel strongly about which.
Whichever is easier is fine with me. :-)

A summary of what I propose:
If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed.
Display subfield e if present
Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present
If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is
fine with me)



On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote:

  Hi Sarah,

 Looking at the subfield e information in that bug, Dan says:

 Fall back to the $e if there is no explicit relator code;

 It sounds like you are proposing the opposite, use the $e and, if it's not
 available, fall back to the relator codes (subfield 4).

 I would support that change in direction.

 It sounds like an LP bug is in order! :)

 Kathy


 On 05/28/2015 03:15 PM, Sarah Childs wrote:

  If the bug is not the same problem as the one Tony is describing, it's
 very closely related.  The bug does refer to the subfield e, the RDA terms,
 and it looks like that's what the non-parenthetical terms are in his
 example.

  I would vote for ditching the parenthetical terms entirely. If there are
 relator terms, display them (subfield e).  If there are not, but there are
 relator codes (subfield 4), translate and supply those. (Don't give codes,
 give terms.)  If there is nothing, give nothing, just the names. The
 parenthetically supplied terms are usually not that useful and often are
 misleading, redundant, or both.

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org
 wrote:

  Hi Tony,

 I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously
 added (Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA
 records. Now that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying
 the relator information from subfield e.

 Kathy


 On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote:

  Hello everyone,



 Quick check if you have a moment?  I’m working on TPAC cleanups for our
 consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author
 notations such as this:



 *Hillenbrand, Laura,
 http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author*
  *author. (Author).* *Herrmann, Edward, 1943-
 http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author*
  *narrator. (Added Author)*



 Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954)



 -



 Has anyone encountered this?  Do you think this bug is the same thing?



 I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing
 the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the
 subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author’s name.





 If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix
 released?





 Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have!



 --Tony



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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)

2015-05-28 Thread Sarah Childs
That should be (Added Author) for the 700 field.

And I would be on board with displaying the subfield e as a parenthetical
instead of the plain text as Janet describes, although, alternatively if we
displayed information from the subfield 4 consistently with the subfield e
display, I'd be fine with that too, just so long as it's consistent one way
or the other.

And I hadn't looked for cases where the subfield 4 is repeated, but if only
one is displaying, I agree that should be remedied.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
wrote:

 It seems that the current behavior is that there is always a
 parenthetical, and if there is a subfield e present, it always displays as
 well.

 I added a subfield 4 to a record, and it appears that what the bug fix
 does is to use the code from the subfield 4 to replace the parenthetical
 information with more descriptive information than the default.
 Unfortunately, the subfield 4 is actually used really rarely, because it's
 optional and catalogers never really got on board with it. So the vast
 majority of the time you get the default, which is either (Author) for the
 100 field or (Added Author) for the 100 field.  That's so general as to be
 not particularly useful, since when it's accurate that information is
 usually clear from the 245, which is displayed above it. For media it's
 basically always wrong, and it's wrong pretty frequently for books, too.

 Based on that, the main change I'd like to see is that the parenthetical
 not be displayed when there is no subfield 4. Right now if we have both
 subfield 4 and subfield e, both are displayed, so I wouldn't really
 describe subfield e as a fallback.  I think if both are present we should
 display one or the other, but I don't really feel strongly about which.
 Whichever is easier is fine with me. :-)

 A summary of what I propose:
 If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed.
 Display subfield e if present
 Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present
 If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is
 fine with me)



 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org
 wrote:

  Hi Sarah,

 Looking at the subfield e information in that bug, Dan says:

 Fall back to the $e if there is no explicit relator code;

 It sounds like you are proposing the opposite, use the $e and, if it's
 not available, fall back to the relator codes (subfield 4).

 I would support that change in direction.

 It sounds like an LP bug is in order! :)

 Kathy


 On 05/28/2015 03:15 PM, Sarah Childs wrote:

  If the bug is not the same problem as the one Tony is describing, it's
 very closely related.  The bug does refer to the subfield e, the RDA terms,
 and it looks like that's what the non-parenthetical terms are in his
 example.

  I would vote for ditching the parenthetical terms entirely. If there are
 relator terms, display them (subfield e).  If there are not, but there are
 relator codes (subfield 4), translate and supply those. (Don't give codes,
 give terms.)  If there is nothing, give nothing, just the names. The
 parenthetically supplied terms are usually not that useful and often are
 misleading, redundant, or both.

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org
 wrote:

  Hi Tony,

 I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously
 added (Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA
 records. Now that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying
 the relator information from subfield e.

 Kathy


 On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote:

  Hello everyone,



 Quick check if you have a moment?  I’m working on TPAC cleanups for our
 consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author
 notations such as this:



 *Hillenbrand, Laura,
 http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author*
  *author. (Author).* *Herrmann, Edward, 1943-
 http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author*
  *narrator. (Added Author)*



 Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954)



 -



 Has anyone encountered this?  Do you think this bug is the same thing?



 I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing
 the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the
 subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author’s name.





 If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix
 released?





 Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have!



 --Tony



 Tony Bandy

 to...@ohionet.org

 OHIONET

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 Columbus, OH  43221-3975

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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)

2015-05-28 Thread Sarah Childs
If the bug is not the same problem as the one Tony is describing, it's very
closely related.  The bug does refer to the subfield e, the RDA terms, and
it looks like that's what the non-parenthetical terms are in his example.

I would vote for ditching the parenthetical terms entirely. If there are
relator terms, display them (subfield e).  If there are not, but there are
relator codes (subfield 4), translate and supply those. (Don't give codes,
give terms.)  If there is nothing, give nothing, just the names. The
parenthetically supplied terms are usually not that useful and often are
misleading, redundant, or both.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote:

  Hi Tony,

 I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously
 added (Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA
 records. Now that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying
 the relator information from subfield e.

 Kathy


 On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote:

  Hello everyone,



 Quick check if you have a moment?  I’m working on TPAC cleanups for our
 consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author
 notations such as this:



 *Hillenbrand, Laura,
 http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author*
  *author. (Author).* *Herrmann, Edward, 1943-
 http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author*
  *narrator. (Added Author)*



 Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954)



 -



 Has anyone encountered this?  Do you think this bug is the same thing?



 I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing
 the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the
 subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author’s name.





 If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix
 released?





 Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have!



 --Tony



 Tony Bandy

 to...@ohionet.org

 OHIONET

 1500 West Lane Ave.

 Columbus, OH  43221-3975

 614-484-1074 (Direct)

 614-486-2966 x19




 --
 Kathy Lussier
 Project Coordinator
 Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier




-- 
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Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Show available copies link in the catalog

2015-02-19 Thread Sarah Childs
Nice.  I like this.


On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Geoff Sams gs...@roanoketexas.com wrote:

 I suggested this in IRC, but thought it would be beneficial here as well:

 My recommendation is to change the left column to show X of Y copies in
 Consortium/Region/Branch/etc. (Show)

 I feel like this would be the simplest and cleanest solution to the issue,
 and it would also make both columns a bit more in sync with each other.

 Thanks,
 Geoff Sams
 Library Manager
 Roanoke Public Library

 -Original Message-
 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:
 open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy
 Lussier
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:29 AM
 To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
 Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Show available copies link in the catalog

 Hi all,

 I've periodically heard from our libraries that they would like the show
 copies link that displays in the available copies area of the public
 catalog record to display even if there are no copies available.

 To demonstrate what I'm talking about, if you look at the
 record-with-available-copies screenshot, there is a link to show all of the
 available copies, which, when clicked, displays copies owned by all
 libraries in the consortium. However, if you look at the
 record-with-no-available-copies screenshot, that link does not display.
 I believe this is because the intent of this particular section of the
 screen is to display available copy information, in which case, the Show
 link wouldn't make sense if there are zero available copies.

 However, there are many cases when a user may start a search scoped to
 their own library, but then may want to see all of the copies in the
 consortium. For example, if there are zero copies available, but only a
 handful of holds, they may want to see the status of the existing copies to
 get an idea of whether they are due soon. Or we may have a situation
 described by one of our libraries where they already have a hold on the
 title, click to the title from their holds list (carrying along the search
 scope in the process), and then want to see the status of the copies owned
 by other libraries in the consortium.

 I think it's a good idea to add a link to display all copies, but the
 question is where would be a good place to put. I've thought of a couple of
 options:

 1 - Display a Show link adjacent to the x current holds with x total
 copies statement. The problem here is that the Show link is a bit
 redundant if the other Show link is always displaying.
 2 - Make the x total copies text in the holds area clickable to show all
 copies owned by the consortium. The problem with this approach is it is
 inconsistent with what's happening in the available copies area.
 3 - Make the existing Show link display regardless of the current
 availability status of copies on the record, even if it is a bit
 incongruous with what that area is supposed to represent.

 Of course, we could always leave that area as it is if other libraries are
 happy with the display.

 What are your thoughts?

 Thanks!
 Kathy

 --
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 Project Coordinator
 Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
 (508) 343-0128
 kluss...@masslnc.org
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier




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Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
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Zionsville, IN 46077
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sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Show available copies link in the catalog

2015-02-18 Thread Sarah Childs
Between your three options, I don't have strong feelings one way or
another.  Any of them seems reasonably serviceable, but none seems ideal.

I would prefer either of the following options:

Option A
Just above the spot where it actually shows the copies is the place where
it seems most obvious to me to be able to change the scope of what's
displayed. So how about adding links just above the line where the column
descriptions for the copy information are?  I suggest link text that says
something like:  Show copies in X consortium and Show copies in X
Library system if you you were scoped to the branch level.   If you were
scoped to the Consortium it would say Show only copies in X branch and
Show only copies in X Library system   And of course for Library system
you would have either Show copies in X consortium  or  Show only copies
in X branch

I think having different text than just Show (such as Show only) would be
helpful to tip off users that clicking the link will narrow the scope.

Perhaps there could even be a Limit to available copies check box near
these links, and the Show links where the number of Available copies is
displayed could be eliminated.

Option B
I suggest adding a Total Copies column between the Available Copies and
Current Holds columns, and eliminating  the with x total copies text from
the Current Holds column.

I prefer Option A, but I like Option B nearly as well and it would a
smaller change.

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
wrote:

 Between your three options, I don't have strong feelings one way or
 another.  Any of them seems reasonably serviceable, but none seems ideal.

 I would prefer either of the following options:

 Option A
 Just above the spot where it actually shows the copies is the place where
 it seems most obvious to me to be able to change the scope of what's
 displayed. So how about adding links just above the line where the column
 descriptions for the copy information are?  I suggest link text that says
 something like:  Show copies in X consortium and Show copies in X
 Library system if you you were scoped to the branch level.   If you were
 scoped to the Consortium it would say Show only copies in X branch and
 Show only copies in X Library system   And of course for Library system
 you would have either Show copies in X consortium  or  Show only copies
 in X branch

 I think having different text than just Show (such as Show only) would
 be helpful to tip off users that clicking the link will narrow the scope.

 Perhaps there could even be a Limit to available copies check box near
 these links, and the Show links where the number of Available copies is
 displayed could be eliminated.

 Option B
 I suggest adding a Total Copies column between the Available Copies and
 Current Holds columns, and eliminating  the with x total copies text from
 the Current Holds column.

 I prefer Option A, but I like Option B nearly as well and it would a
 smaller change.



 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've periodically heard from our libraries that they would like the show
 copies link that displays in the available copies area of the public
 catalog record to display even if there are no copies available.

 To demonstrate what I'm talking about, if you look at the
 record-with-available-copies screenshot, there is a link to show all of the
 available copies, which, when clicked, displays copies owned by all
 libraries in the consortium. However, if you look at the
 record-with-no-available-copies screenshot, that link does not display.
 I believe this is because the intent of this particular section of the
 screen is to display available copy information, in which case, the Show
 link wouldn't make sense if there are zero available copies.

 However, there are many cases when a user may start a search scoped to
 their own library, but then may want to see all of the copies in the
 consortium. For example, if there are zero copies available, but only a
 handful of holds, they may want to see the status of the existing copies to
 get an idea of whether they are due soon. Or we may have a situation
 described by one of our libraries where they already have a hold on the
 title, click to the title from their holds list (carrying along the search
 scope in the process), and then want to see the status of the copies owned
 by other libraries in the consortium.

 I think it's a good idea to add a link to display all copies, but the
 question is where would be a good place to put. I've thought of a couple of
 options:

 1 - Display a Show link adjacent to the x current holds with x total
 copies statement. The problem here is that the Show link is a bit
 redundant if the other Show link is always displaying.
 2 - Make the x total copies text in the holds area clickable to show
 all copies owned by the consortium. The problem with this approach is it is
 inconsistent

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 2.5.2 Subject Browse Index

2014-06-20 Thread Sarah Childs
This is an interesting and useful idea (especially for catalogers!), 
but I'm not sure patrons would dig the intervening screen when 
performing the keyword subject search. It strikes that the function 
would be rather like a disambiguation page on Wikipedia. It might be 
nice might be nice if something like this displayed along with the 
search results, or if you got a link at the top of your search results 
directing you to it.


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-06-20 10:08, Elizabeth B. Thomsen wrote:

I think that Don is talking about something different -- a way to
keyword search subject headings.

Right now we have two subject search options:

On the Basic and Advanced search screen, choosing subject and
entering search terms gets you all the records that have that term in
subject headings.  Show me all the bib records that have the word
Puffins somewhere in the subject headings.

On the Browse search, you choose subject and enter search terms, and
you are shown the alphabetical section of the index that starts with
whatever you entered. You get to a list of subject headings and their
subdivisions (at least if you've done your indexes as described
earlier in this thread, and they have the subdivisions like
Bibliomations.

Keyword searching of subject headings would be saying Show me all
the subject headings that include these search terms.  If you entered
Washington, for example, you'd get something like this:

George Washington Bridge (New York, N.Y.)  (3)
Washington, Booker T., 1856-1915 (30)
Washington, George 1732-1783 (100)

That would be a great feature, something like Find Headings, but I
wouldn't want to see it replace either the way subject searching on
basic advanced or subject browse works now.


On 6/20/2014 9:45 AM, Kathy Lussier wrote:

On 6/20/2014 9:20 AM, Donald Butterworth wrote:

I agree with Janet, that the whole subject phrase needs to be kept
together so that only the limited set displays when clicking on the
phrase. There are lots of DLC authority records that include a main
subject and subdivisions.


I'm confused now. Are we still talking about the subject browse index 
or
are we talking about the bib record? If we're talking about the 
subject

browse index, I would agree, primarily because the user is presumably
seeing a hierarchy of subjects where the broader term may be directly
above the term they are looking at and the narrower term is directly
below. The current behavior is that the link keeps the subject phrase
together when you click on it, so no changes would be required here.

If we're talking about the bib record, I have to say I put a lot of
faith into what I'm sure is highly-funded usability testing done by
Amazon. As Dan mentioned, the current link behavior for subject 
headings
is similar to what Amazon is using. If the Evergreen community were 
to

do a coordinated batch of usability testing (probably not a bad idea)
and found that end users were indeed confused by the behavior, I 
might
think differently, but I personally like the ability to click higher 
in

the subject heading to broaden my search.

Kathy



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NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Notification is library is last owning on a held item?

2014-04-02 Thread Sarah Childs
It be nice if this would work so you could set this to tell you that it 
when it IS the last copy, or instead set it so that it would tell you 
when it ISN'T the last copy.  For us, the majority of the things we buy 
we only have one copy locally, so it would probably get annoying if it 
told us every time something was the last copy (since that would be most 
of the time). It would be actually more helpful for us if the system 
told us when an item we delete is NOT the last copy, because then we 
would know not to remove OCLC holdings for those items.


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-04-02 15:18, Hardy, Elaine wrote:

PINES would like this feature to identify when the last copy held by a
system (not a branch) is deleted from the bib record for removing OCLC
holdings as well.



Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES  Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235-7128
404.235-7201, fax
eha...@georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines

From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf 
Of

Elisabeth Keppler
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 8:06 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Notification is library is last owning 
on

a held item?



We'd also like to be able to identify when our own library's last copy 
is
being discarded or deleted so we can remove our OCLC holdings.  We're 
on

2.4.3, if that makes a difference, and would welcome any suggestions.



I can report holds for which there is no holdable copy (which we call
hopeless holds) if that would help you, Buzzy.  Using the Hold/Copy
Ratio per Bib report source, here are the filters and displays:



Inline image 1

Inline image 2

We use the results to generate emails or postcards to patrons letting 
them

know that we're unable to fill their hold.  For materials older than a
year, we include instructions on how to request ILL.  The example 
above

filters on just our holdings rather than the entire consortium's, but
leaving off the Owning Library Name filter would fix that.



Hope that helps,

Lise Keppler

Forsyth County NC



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Buzzy Nielsen 
bu...@hoodriverlibrary.org

wrote:

Hi folks,

Does anyone know, is there a feature in Evergreen, whether currently 
in

place or in development, that would notify a library is it's the last
owning library that carries a particular held item? We have a large
consortium, 70+ libraries, and patrons can place holds on pretty much 
any
member library's items. It would be really helpful if there could be 
some
sort of alert if a library's that's the last holding one marks a held 
item

missing. That way, the patron's home library could notify him/her that
they're unable to get the item through the consortium.

I hope that my question makes sense!

Cheers!
Buzzy



Library Director
Hood River County Library District
502 State Street
Hood River, Oregon 97031
541-387-7062
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Forsyth County Public Library

660 W 5th St

Winston Salem NC 27101

336-703-3070


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar

2014-03-26 Thread Sarah Childs
I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're 
headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm 
watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided 
this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though.


---
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Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-03-26 09:59, Rogan Hamby wrote:
I think that at this point it's kind of like RDA - it will be part of 
the
process even if it's not the actual final thing, and even though what 
we
see now may be a very different beast by the end it may have the same 
name

as this thing along with some of its DNA.

And in the spirit of things vaguely kind of will and not quite yet but 
kind

of now does I present the evergreen bibframe haiku:

No one catalog
Along this library but I,
This evergreen bibframe.




On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ruth Frasur 
direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org

wrote:


Okay, and I'm not knowledgeable about any of it to get worked up at 
all.

 I am, however, interested to see if this is an actual thing or just
another library idea that ends up being a pain with little added 
value.



On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rogan Hamby 
rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote:


A discussion of bibframe could be a very long thread in it's own 
right.
 I don't have strong feelings about it.  Any new content / carrier 
formats

that come out will be compromises.

Frankly, RDA/Bibframe is all fairly underwhelming to me though it 
going
forward is a good thing and there are potential uses that could be 
pretty

cool.  And there is a long road ahead where plenty can change so I'm
hesitant to get too worked up about it.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ruth Frasur 
direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote:

I just received an invitation Zepheira to attend a webinar to look 
at a
progression from MARC to BIBFRAME.  I know next to nothing about 
this and
was wondering about any thoughts on it from the Evergreen 
community.


--
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Township

Library
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York County Library System

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people 
to

stop reading them.
-- Ray Bradbury 
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury


You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough 
to

suit me.
-- C.S. Lewis 
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis






--
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Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson 
Township

Library
10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346)
p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808

Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org  Our Rockin' 
Facebook
Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary  and Stuff I'm 
Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/






--

Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to 
stop

reading them.
-- Ray Bradbury 
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury


You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to 
suit

me.
-- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Wish list items from the Cataloging Interest Group meeting Evergreen 2014.

2014-03-26 Thread Sarah Childs
I have just added a somewhat related wishlist bug for improving the 
Copy Notes function. Curious to know if others would find these 
improvements would alleviate the need to publicly display local notes in 
MARC.


https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297909

---
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Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-03-26 09:11, Hardy, Elaine wrote:
I have added several wish list items we discussed during the 
cataloging

interest group meeting held at this year's Evergreen International
Conference. They are:





Link to Edit MARC in record summary

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297833



In the record summary, in addition to links for Add Volumes and View 
MARC,

add a link to Edit MARC. Access to the link would be controlled by
permissions so that if user did not have permission to edit a MARC 
record

the link would be grayed out and not functional for them. This would
allow catalogers to access Edit MARC functionality more quickly and
improve workflow.



MARC tag/field edit permissions

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297836





Within MARC Edit, the ability to set permissions by MARC tag/field so 
that
a library could assign editing tasks for a specific field to an 
individual
user. For example, allowing a user to edit only the 300 field in the 
MARC

record and not be able to edit any other field.



In addition to being controlled by permissions, the ability to allow
specific tag/field edits should also be a library or server setting so
that a library or consortium can allow or disallow the functionality 
as a

whole.



Ability to display notes in public facing OPAC by specific library

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297838





In library consortia, local notes (e.g. 590s) specific to an 
individual
library's copy/item is not generally allowed. We would like the 
ability to
make local notes in the MARC bibliographic record display in OPAC 
searches
scoped to the specific library. We envision this to be similar to the 
|9

in 856 fields whereby coding within the field creates local notes that
would then display only to the system or branch indicated in the 
field.

This would also be valuable to other note fields as well. For example,
where different libraries have different use and reproduction rights 
that
could be indicated in a 540 note scoped for an individual library. 
These

notes would be repeatable with in the MARC bibliographic record.



For those of you that requested or supported the wish list items, 
please

take a moment to add to the Launchpad report, whether to clarify your
request or to add that it effects you. If you did not request the 
report,
please login and do the same, or let us know where there may be 
problems

with the request we did not foresee in our discussion.



Please also let me know if I missed a discussion item you would like 
to

add as a wish list or bug fix.





Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES  Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235-7128
404.235-7201, fax
eha...@georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar

2014-03-26 Thread Sarah Childs
That's a good point, as long as we emerge from this stage as stronger, 
smarter, and maturely developed, rather than emotionally stunted, 
scarred for life, and unable to move on. :)


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-03-26 11:17, Ruth Frasur wrote:
I don't know.  There's definite value in the adolescent stage, even if 
it's
ugly and painful.  Well, it'll surely be interesting to see where it 
goes

and it/when it affects Evergreen infrastructure.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Rogan Hamby 
rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote:


Just because we can have lived through something doesn't mean we 
wouldn't
like to skip it.  I've lived through my oldest child's adolescent 
years and
would rather have skipped those (probably my own too come to think of 
it)..





On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Marc Truitt mtru...@mta.ca wrote:


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Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which
we all must live.  I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences 
of

AACR2 and MARC?  Probably many aren't senior enough to have been
around then!  :)

- - mt

On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote:

Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :)

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote:


I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where
we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on
from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I
wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC
stage, though.



- --
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University Librarianvoice  : 506-364-2567
Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca
Libraries and Archives  fax: 506-364-2617
49 York Street  cell   : 506-232-0503
Sackville, NB  E4L 1C6

Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us.  See,
I am showing you.  She made these words on a /page/, and a page is
made of /paper/.  She made the words with /writing/, that she marked
down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and
she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a
/book/.  See, I am showing you.  This is the Book, these are the 
Pages,

here is the Writing.
   -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ 
(2013)


  Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978!
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--

Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people 
to

stop reading them.
-- Ray Bradbury 
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury


You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to 
suit

me.
-- C.S. Lewis 
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis






--
Ruth Frasur
Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township
Library
10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346)
p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808

Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org  Our Rockin' 
Facebook

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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Wish list items from the Cataloging Interest Group meeting Evergreen 2014.

2014-03-26 Thread Sarah Childs
Interesting.  We don't do local notes like that. Either it's true for 
everyone so we would add it to the MARC generally, or we would add it as 
a copy note. Sounds like this is a feature that would be useful for you, 
but not for us.


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-03-26 13:26, Elizabeth Thomsen wrote:

I'd like a way to have both local bib fields and local copy notes.

For example, when searching within the context of a particular 
library,

you might want to have local notes related to the author's affiliation
(faculty or alumni author, local author, etc.), contents or subject 
matter
(Chapter 10 includes several photographs of parks and buildings in X 
town)
-- things that are specifically important to one library but that 
belong

at the bib level because they are true of all copies.

Local copy notes would be used for things that are only true of a
particular copy -- restriction, donor, autographs, etc.

--
Elizabeth Thomsen, Member Services Manager
NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange
26 Cherry Hill Drive
Danvers Massachusetts 01923
E-mail: e...@noblenet.org

On Wed, March 26, 2014 11:40 am, Sarah Childs wrote:

I have just added a somewhat related wishlist bug for improving the
Copy Notes function. Curious to know if others would find these
improvements would alleviate the need to publicly display local notes 
in

MARC.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297909

---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-03-26 09:11, Hardy, Elaine wrote:

I have added several wish list items we discussed during the
cataloging
interest group meeting held at this year's Evergreen International
Conference. They are:





Link to Edit MARC in record summary

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297833



In the record summary, in addition to links for Add Volumes and View
MARC,
add a link to Edit MARC. Access to the link would be controlled by
permissions so that if user did not have permission to edit a MARC
record
the link would be grayed out and not functional for them. This 
would

allow catalogers to access Edit MARC functionality more quickly and
improve workflow.



MARC tag/field edit permissions

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297836





Within MARC Edit, the ability to set permissions by MARC tag/field 
so

that
a library could assign editing tasks for a specific field to an
individual
user. For example, allowing a user to edit only the 300 field in the
MARC
record and not be able to edit any other field.



In addition to being controlled by permissions, the ability to allow
specific tag/field edits should also be a library or server setting 
so

that a library or consortium can allow or disallow the functionality
as a
whole.



Ability to display notes in public facing OPAC by specific library

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297838





In library consortia, local notes (e.g. 590s) specific to an
individual
library's copy/item is not generally allowed. We would like the
ability to
make local notes in the MARC bibliographic record display in OPAC
searches
scoped to the specific library. We envision this to be similar to 
the

|9
in 856 fields whereby coding within the field creates local notes 
that

would then display only to the system or branch indicated in the
field.
This would also be valuable to other note fields as well. For 
example,

where different libraries have different use and reproduction rights
that
could be indicated in a 540 note scoped for an individual library.
These
notes would be repeatable with in the MARC bibliographic record.



For those of you that requested or supported the wish list items,
please
take a moment to add to the Launchpad report, whether to clarify 
your

request or to add that it effects you. If you did not request the
report,
please login and do the same, or let us know where there may be
problems
with the request we did not foresee in our discussion.



Please also let me know if I missed a discussion item you would like
to
add as a wish list or bug fix.





Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES  Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235-7128
404.235-7201, fax
eha...@georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines




Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Investigating Evergreen Holds functionality in PINES

2014-03-04 Thread Sarah Childs

Very interesting--thanks for sharing!

---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-03-04 13:17, Hardy, Elaine wrote:

In 2013, Leslie St. John (a consultant with PINES) and I investigated
Evergreen holds functionality in PINES to provide answers to questions
from staff at PINES libraries. Key among those questions were how 
holds
were processed and whether that processing was in accordance with 
PINES

policies and needs. The white paper Investigating Evergreen Holds
functionality in PINES and the Executive Summary present our findings 
and

conclusions.  They can be found at
http://pines.georgialibraries.org/holds-white-paper



Please keep in mind as you look over the paper that we were testing 
how
PINES implements Evergreen (version 2.3) holds processing. Your 
library or
consortium may differ. However, we hope that the paper is useful to 
others

in the Evergreen community.



We wish to thank Kathy Lussier and MassLNC for the use of their 
testing
scenarios. Using them as a basis for ours saved us a good deal of 
time.




Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.





Elaine

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES  Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235-7128
404.235-7201, fax
eha...@georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds placed prior to status change

2014-02-27 Thread Sarah Childs
This is our process as well. Also, we don't use acquisitions yet, but 
if we have a request for an item, we add an on order record so that the 
holds can be placed. This way we don't get a pile up of patron request 
slips for popular items.


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-02-27 09:52, Lynn Floyd wrote:

We generally add the titles before release date, and keep them in the
In-processing status.  This allows the holds to be placed, but the 
title is

technically unavailable.  Then release date, we check them all in and
capture the holds.  We generally do it this way because of the amount 
of
titles in general we catalog. Also patrons then can place their own 
holds on

the title, when it shows up in the catalog.



Lynn Floyd
lfl...@andersonlibrary.org
Anderson County Library
864-260-4500 x181
http://www.andersonlibrary.org http://www.andersonlibrary.org/




From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf 
Of

Elisabeth Keppler
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:46 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds placed prior to status change



Thanks, everyone.  I really appreciate how generous Evergreen 
librarians are

with their knowledge and experience!



Out of curiosity, is it common practice out there to add hot new 
titles to
the catalog the day before their lay-down date so that holds can be 
filled
as soon as a title is released?  We have patrons who call first thing 
on
Tuesdays (mostly) to ask why their hold on the latest bestseller 
hasn't been
filled yet.  If we add items on lay-down day and stash them in the 
back for

24 hours, they'll scream.



Lise Keppler



On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Laurie Love ll...@arlibrary.org 
wrote:


Lise:

I'm part of the NC Cardinal system also and Wilkes (Appalachian
Regional) has been with Evergreen since 2011.  If you ever want to 
call or
email me with questions, I'm happy to try to help.   The holds are 
really
tricky with Evergreen and there are lots of  foibles.  The Find 
another
Target is supposed to look for another title to satisfy the hold.  
Doesn't

always work in my experience though.

Laurie Love

Circ. Mgr.

Wilkes County Public Library

ll...@arlibrary.org

336-838-2818



From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf 
Of

Elisabeth Keppler
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:05 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds placed prior to status change



We're new to Evergreen and have been struggling with holds on new 
items.
We've had issues with Find Another Target messing up the holds queue, 
but we

may have been doing it incorrectly.



When you say to Find Another Target for the hold on top of the 
queue,
Tina, do you mean the first hold that appears when we click on View 
Holds
for the record?  This seems to be the newest hold and might not be for 
our

library's patron.  (We're in the NC Cardinal consortium.  Since we use
6-month age hold protection, holds outside Forsyth County won't be 
filled by
new items we add here.)  We tried filtering to holds for just the 
branch
where the new item was added, but that seems to have caused problems.  
Would

you mind elaborating on your recommendation?



Thanks very much,

Lise Keppler

Forsyth County Public Library



On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Tina Ji (Project Sitka)
t...@sitka.bclibraries.ca wrote:

Hi Deana,

If your 'missing' and 'trace' statuses are non-holdable, this is 
probably
the expected behaviour. We experience the same thing with our hold 
targeter
running every 15 mins for new holds (placed within 24 hours) and daily 
for
old holds (placed 24 hours ago). So new holds may be targeted by a 
copy with

newly achieved holdable status, but not the old ones.

The opportunistic capture is related to the hold_copy_map, which is 
updated
by the hold targeter, thus updated daily for old holds. Items with 
newly

achieved holdable status is not in that table for old holds.

We advise our sites doing Find Another Target for the hold on top of 
the
queue or waiting for a day. The checkin modifier: Retarget Local Hold 
may

help, to some extent.



Tina




Quoting Deana Cunningham deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org:

Hi great brain!

I was playing around today on our test server and have a question  
about
hold triggering. After an item has a status change to  missing or 
trace,
any holds placed prior to that change are not  getting triggered upon 
item
check in. I have tried checking the item  in numerous times (to see if 
maybe
the first time when it changes  the status back to reshelving it 
would
activate the hold for  capture at the next check in, but it did not. 
Placing

a new hold on  the item

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] undo-ing copy location edits

2014-02-05 Thread Sarah Childs
On a related note, in Indiana we recently added Display as a status.  
This works great for displays that you just fill up with new things as 
the previous ones get checked out. Instead of changing the shelving 
location you set the status of the materials as display, and then when 
they get checked out and checked back in they just go back through the 
regular reshelving to available status cycle and get reshelved at their 
usual shelving locations. Obviously, this isn't so useful for long term 
displays where you want the items on display to return to the display 
after being checked out.


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-02-05 01:07, Jim Taylor wrote:

Entirely possible…I believe Symphony can do that so already have an
example.   One thing they didn’t account for, at the time anyway, was
what happens if you change an item after that.   Say you decide to
pull it from Fossils and put it in “Really Old Guys” instead.  What
happens?  Surprisingly, everybody in the group discussion at a
conference seemed to think I was silly for even being concerned even
though they admitted it might be  a problem.   Just something,
seemingly obvious, but , apparently not,  to take into account if you
pursue development of such a feature.





Jim



From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf
Of Dan Scott
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 9:52 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] undo-ing copy location edits



On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Holly Brennan 
haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us wrote:


We just started using a shelving location of ‘Display’ for items that
have been pulled from their normal locations in order to be… you
guessed it… on display. (Currently it’s *Fossils*)



Using a copy bucket to change the locations is SO much easier than it
was with our former ILS. We love that. So, of course, it made me
greedy. What if it was just as easy to return items to their former
locations?



I thought, what if, when we’re done with the display, we could click
a button to change the location of the items from ‘Display’ back to
the 7 or so locations where the individual items regularly live. That
would be cool. No, MAGIC.



If we held onto the copy bucket with all these items, it seems
possible (to me). The change could be a temporary location change.
Something like, Please change to this new location, but remember your
old one, because you’re going back there someday.



Has anyone else dreamed of this? Any developers want to chime in
whether it’s possible?



Yep, dreamed of it long ago for a slightly different context: putting
items on reserve (which could change their location and call number,
too).

One possibility that now leaps to mind is to make use of the auditor
tables that track every change to a given copy and call number (and
many other entities in the database... at least until those auditor
tables are purged). We could whip up a batch action along the lines of
Reset copy location to previous location pretty easily, I think.


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inconsistent/wrong search results when searching by location in TPAC

2014-01-22 Thread Sarah Childs
We experience the same thing when we try to narrow a search to a 
particular shelving location. It generally just times out. I assume that 
approach works for single installations of Evergreen, and perhaps even 
small consortiums, but it's basically worthless for us.


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2014-01-21 20:55, Mike Rylander wrote:

Justin,

The reason that search is slow is that you're effectively asking the
system to return all bib records, then pull up all their copies, then
pull up those copies' shelving locations, and finally filter out
records that do not have copies that do not have shelving locations in
your list.  That is exactly the reason I built the new items
functionality.

With a little elbow grease, one could certainly use one of the many
XML format output options available for use with the new items list to
re-sort them however one would like, and display them exactly as one
would wish.  Just try replacing html-full with atom or rss2.

In fact, you could even use the OPAC to do the heavy lifting for you
if you were to extract the record IDs from the XML new item feed and
built a search using the record_list() filter and the sort(titlesort)
operator.

Perhaps, with likely less total effort, an opac format could be added
to the new item list, along with support for additional query
components (such as sorting) in the case of the opac format.  A simple
redirect would do.

A wishlist bug sounds like a good idea.  Perhaps time or funding will
materialize.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Holly Brennan 
haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us wrote:
This improves the presentation and allows for title sorting but the 
search
takes *forever* to return and the results are always way off and 
frequently
do not return any results at all. Having just tried it, TPAC claims 
there
are no results whatsoever. Two or three page refreshes later it turns 
up 353
items. According to the DB we have 1951 distinct bibs with items in 
those

locations.



Has anyone else seen this behavior? Is there an open bug on it? 
Should there

be?



Weird. We, too, use New Books as a location for searching. I just 
pulled
up the whole batch of new adult books in our library (5,070 records) 
without

a problem. It took maybe one second to load the page.



I didn't find a delay using your search method, either.



I know this is sort of non-information, but it could be helpful so I 
chimed

in. Let us know if you solve the problem!



-Holly







Holly Brennan

Library Technology Specialist

Homer Public Library

907-235-3180 (main)

907-435-3154 (direct)

hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov







-Original Message-
From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf 
Of

Justin Hopkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:56 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inconsistent/wrong search results when 
searching

by location in TPAC



Hi guys,



Like probably many others, we have noticed that Evergreen is lacking 
a

really good new books feature. We've explored this:



http://missourievergreen.org/opac/extras/browse/html-full/item-age/SRLWA



The presentation of this option isn't very good though, and ideally 
we'd

have the ability to sort by title.



It just so happens that our library who is most interested in this 
has a
shelving location at each of their branches called New Books. So we 
tried

this approach using search syntax:



http://missourievergreen.org/eg/opac/results?fi:item_type=query=locations(1307,1308,1309,1310,1311,1558,1559)+qtype=keywordlocg=174sort=titlesort)



This improves the presentation and allows for title sorting but the 
search
takes *forever* to return and the results are always way off and 
frequently
do not return any results at all. Having just tried it, TPAC claims 
there
are no results whatsoever. Two or three page refreshes later it turns 
up 353
items. According to the DB we have 1951 distinct bibs with items in 
those

locations.



Has anyone else seen this behavior? Is there an open bug on it? 
Should there

be?

Regards,

Justin








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 | Director of Research and Development
 | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source
 | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Fwd: Opinions needed on copying patron data to the clipboard

2013-11-07 Thread Sarah Childs
For the simple yes/no vote I'll add my voice as a heavy daily user of 
the staff client that I prefer not to have an extra click.


Long term, however, I agree that the click link to copy is probably 
very weird to new Evergreeners, and that a click to copy button or the 
more standard highlight/control-v would likely seem more natural to 
people.


---
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us

On 2013-11-07 10:58, Kathy Lussier wrote:

Hi all,

Looking through the e-mail thread and the original LP bug, I counted 
that:


8 people indicated that they would like an acknowledgement that the
text was copied.
7 indicated that they did not want the additional click.
7 indicated they wanted something else (3 of those 7 were also
counted above because they showed a preference for one approach over
another.)

I agree that it would be preferable to have a tooltip or a consistent
way to display an icon performs the action to copy to the clipboard.
But my follow-up question to those suggestions is if there is anyone
with the tuits to make it happen if we wanted to run with one of these
approaches.

In the case of the original question, it would be fairly easy to
revert this part of the code to its previous state, and I would be
willing to make the code changes if there was a large consensus to do
so (I'm not sure we really have that consensus at the moment.) But
that's about as far as my coding abilities go. :)

I am hopeful that, once we move to a web client, all of the standard
methods for copying and pasting will be available in the client
interfaces, eliminating the need for special Evergreen conventions for
copying this data.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 11/7/2013 10:08 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote:

How about just an option to turn alerting on or off? I know that I
generally don't want to be told when something succeeds. I generally
only care about failures.




[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs?

2013-03-26 Thread Sarah Childs

Hi, Tony.
From the staff client side you can import barcodes into the item status 
screen to delete them using the Upload from File button.  If all your 
report has is the barcodes you can save the excel file and import it 
straight into Item Status. (If the report has other fields, strip them 
from the file) However, I'd recommend breaking them into smaller chunks 
(100-200 or so) at a time. I just copy and paste groups from my report 
into a notepad file. Then you click the Upload from File, select your 
file and the items load. Highlight them and delete the whole group. It's 
a pretty quick and easy process. But I bet there would be a better way 
from the back end if it's a truly massive group. Somebody else will have 
to direct you there.


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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:52:46 -0400
From: Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs?
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Hi all,
Was wondering if I could post this out to the group for ideas?
Working with a massive list of electronic resource bib records that 
are
needing some mistakenly added item records removed from them.   I've 
been
able to create a list of item barcodes in the reports module.  Is 
there a
way I can mass add these items via a copy bucket so that I can delete 
them

all at once from my list of bib records?
Oris there a faster (better, cheaper, etc.) method of mass 
deleting
item records from the bibliographic records that I'm not aware of?  
This
involves electronic resource records, which don't need any attached 
item

records.  PSQL operation maybe that you have used before?
Thanks for any links, thoughts, your experience on this as you have a
minute or two
Tony
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