Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [External] Re: Towards more consistent terminology in the web client
ia,+MO+%C2%A065203=gmail=g> > > Columbia, MO 65203 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=111+E.+Broadway,+Ste.+220+Columbia,+MO+%C2%A065203=gmail=g> > > deb...@mobiusconsortium.org > > 573-234-4914 > > https://mobiusconsortium.org <http://mobiusconsortium.org> > > Missouri Evergreen Help Desk: h...@mobiusconsortium.org / 877-312-3517 > > http://libraries.missourievergreen.org > > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Elaine Hardy > wrote: > > +1 Sarah! > > > > > > > J. Elaine Hardy > > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager > > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES > > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 580 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Ste.+580+Atlanta,+GA+30045=gmail=g> > > Atlanta, GA 30045 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Ste.+580+Atlanta,+GA+30045=gmail=g> > > > > 404.548.4241 Cell > > eha...@georgialibraries.org > > Helpdesk: http://help.georgialibraries.org > > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Janet Schrader > wrote: > > +1 to holdings. > I like that because it's consistent with "Holdings transfer" and can be > either a copy or a volume. Holdings should be familiar to any librarian who > used MARC record loads to create items 852 or 94x fields. > > > > > > > *Janet Schrader* > > Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS > > 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=67+Millbrook+Street,+Suite+201,+Worcester,+MA+01606=gmail=g> > > P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801 > -- > > jschra...@cwmars.org || http;//cwmars.org <http://www.cwmars.org/> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Sarah Childs > wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Elaine Hardy > wrote: > > I do like Holdings transfer. I think it is a good descriptor of what we > are doing with the functionality. > > > > A little quibble, though with not having the button labelled Add volumes > and copies. I realize that is cumbersome, however, it is more descriptive, > especially from a cataloger's point of view. > > > > Maybe it should be labeled "Add Holdings"? Then it's distinct from both > Add Volumes and Add Copies. > > > > > -- > > Sarah Childs > Technical Services Department Head > Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library > 250 North Fifth Street > <https://maps.google.com/?q=250+North+Fifth+Street+%0D%0AZionsville,+IN+46077=gmail=g> > Zionsville, IN 46077 > 317-873-3149 x13330 > sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mary Llewellyn > > Database Manager > > Bibliomation, Inc. > > 24 Wooster Ave. > <https://maps.google.com/?q=24+Wooster+Ave.+Waterbury,+CT+06708=gmail=g> > > Waterbury, CT 06708 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=24+Wooster+Ave.+Waterbury,+CT+06708=gmail=g> > > mllew...@biblio.org > > > > > > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Question about label names in Print Item Labels interface
One thing I'm wondering about this is do most libraries that use the "pocket" labels use them for labels they put on a pocket or for other purposes, like as a property label? Is the term pocket label obvious now that many libraries no longer use pockets? On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm sending along a question to the list that I also posted on Launchpad > at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1787479. > > We have been working with Emerald Data Networks on code that would allow > printing spine / pocket labels to an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet. The code is still a > work in progress, but, in initial testing, we're finding some difficulty > using the names given to these label in the web client. > > When item label printing was added to the web client, Jason Etheridge > noted in bug 1704873 that they called this interface Item labels to make it > a little more generic. I'm guessing this is also why the spine and pocket > labels were renamed as left and right label, which works well in the > current implementation. > > We've been trying to maintain the spirit of a more generic interface, but > have been struggling with the left / right designations under this project. > > Here is the problem. Under our current implementation, a label set doesn't > always have to be one spine (left) label and one pocket (right) label. > There is a place where users can designate that the left label be used for > column 1, the right label for column 2, and another right label for column > 3. They could also conceivably put the right label in column 1, in which > case it would appear to the left of the left label. With this additional > flexibility, the 'left' and 'right' labels don't really make sense. > > I tried to keep things generic by renaming them as label 1 and label 2, > but these terms have turned out to be a little too generic and lead to a > less intuitive UI. > > I would like to float the idea of returning to spine / pocket as the > labels. Staff understand what these labels mean, and it will help us in > providing clearer explanations on what different settings do. However, I'm > also open to other ideas people may have. > > Let me know what you think! > > Kathy > > -- > Kathy Lussier > Project Coordinator > Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative > (508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Elaine Hardy wrote: > I do like Holdings transfer. I think it is a good descriptor of what we > are doing with the functionality. > > A little quibble, though with not having the button labelled Add volumes > and copies. I realize that is cumbersome, however, it is more descriptive, > especially from a cataloger's point of view. > Maybe it should be labeled "Add Holdings"? Then it's distinct from both Add Volumes and Add Copies. -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client
> From Jennifer: > > If we stick with item (which implies copy, call number, and barcode), that >> keeps it very simple. Copies has the implication of multiple copies of >> a title of a book, whereas we mean more than that in most systems because >> we will have different kinds of physical things attached to one MARC >> record.Using the term ‘items’ keeps it most generic. > > Kathy said: > > I disagree with the idea that item implies copy, call number and barcode. > IMO, we are choosing the best term to describe what lives in the asset.copy > table, which certainly could be a physical thing rather than a copy of a > book, but is not the same thing as a call number, which can contain > multiple items/copies, or a barcode, which is an identifier for that > item/copy. We need to be very precise in what we call these entities in the > client. When we are referring to a call number, we should say call number > (or volume). > > I like Dan's approach of using 'holdings' when we need some way to refer > to a group that can contain items/copies and/or call numbers. > I like this idea of holdings when talking about call number + item groupings. But I do think the term item is better than the term copy, because I think Jennifer is right about copy implying that there is more than one of the same thing. There might be only one, or there might be multiple items which are parts as opposed to "copies." You have to add items to create parts, and it seems weird to say you are adding copies in that instance, since they are all different things.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client
+1 I agree with Jennifer about consistency being desirable, and preferring the term items. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Walz, Jennifer wrote: > All – > > > > I would prefer the ITEM and ITEM LOCATION designators – and consistency > across all functions / buttons / screens / views etc would be very welcome. > > > > As Dan and Lynn point out below, there have been VAST inconsistencies and > also problems with function.If we stick with item (which implies copy, > call number, and barcode), that keeps it very simple. Copies has the > implication of multiple copies of a title of a book, whereas we mean more > than that in most systems because we will have different kinds of physical > things attached to one MARC record.Using the term ‘items’ keeps it most > generic. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jennifer > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general- > boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Wells > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 07, 2018 6:52 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in > the web client > > > > > > As for the "Add Volumes" vs "Add Copies", the problem there was that the > omnibus branch created an "Add Volume" menu entry within the holdings view > which did exactly that, add an empty "volume" (call number) with no copy. > It felt like bad design to have this menu entry for "Add Volume" which only > added the call number while also having an "Add Volumes" button which added > both the call number and the copy. An early revision, for maximum clarity, > relabeled the record-level button to "Add Volumes and Copies", but a long > button label such as that brings its own challenges. It was then reasoned > that "Add Copies" in some sense implicitly means (at the record level) "Add > (Volumes and) Copies", since you can't have the second without the first. > And thus the current label was born. > > > > Sincerely, > > Dan > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Lynn Floyd > wrote: > > I came up with another terminology that should be looked at Call Number > vs. Volume. There are lots of places where these terms are used > interchangeably. > > > > Lynn Floyd > > lfl...@andersonlibrary.org > > Anderson County Library > > Anderson, SC > > > > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Possible bug? RE: merging
The other cataloger here tells me he noticed the same thing yesterday. Sounds like a bug report is in order. On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Elaine Hardy wrote: > It does look like a bug. I just tried in 3.0.2 to use both edit functions > while merging and the edits were not saved to the merged record. > > I don't typically make edits while merging so would not have caught thit > > > > J. Elaine Hardy > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Ste.+150+Atlanta,+GA+30045=gmail=g> > Atlanta, GA 30045 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Ste.+150+Atlanta,+GA+30045=gmail=g> > > 404.235.7128 Office > 404.548.4241 Cell > 404.235.7201 FAX > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Kate Coleman > wrote: > >> I've searched through Launchpad and even release notes, but thought I >> might pop in and ask really quickly in case anyone knows off the top of >> their head... >> >> When merging records in the webclient (I'm using 3.0.2), in the merge >> screen, there is an option to Edit and also an option to Edit using full >> editor. You can make these edits, and hit the save button, but the edits >> are not actually saved in the merged record. Anyone else? I'm not the best >> at searching bugs, it seems, so I wasn't sure if this issue had been >> addressed. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Kate Coleman >> Jefferson County Library - Central Services >> Technical Services Supervisor >> 5678 State Rd. PP >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=5678+State+Rd.+PP=gmail=g> >> High Ridge, MO 63049 >> 636-677-8689 >> Fax: 636--677-1769 >> kcole...@jeffcolib.org >> >> >> > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Edelweiss Analytics script
Awesome! Thanks so much! On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Andrea Buntz Neiman < abnei...@equinoxinitiative.org> wrote: > Hi Evergreeners! > > I wanted to let you know that Equinox has written a script to export data > from Evergreen & FTP it into the Edelweiss Analytics service provided by > Above The Treeline. This script is available under the GPL 2+, and can be > found here: > > http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/equinox.git;a=tree; > f=above_the_treeline;hb=master > > The directory includes both the script itself and some administrator-level > documentation. > > Many thanks to Above The Treeline for funding this development, and for > Richland Public Library for being the first user! > > Andrea > > > -- > Andrea Buntz Neiman > Project Manager for Software Development > Equinox Open Library Initiative > abnei...@equinoxinitiative.org > 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > *www.equinoxinitiative.org <http://www.equinoxinitiative.org>* > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cards v. White Sox tonight
If you are interested in going to the baseball game tonight, a couple of Indiana folks are driving over there. I think we have four out of 9-10 vehicle seats spoken for, so if you want to go, reply to me or text me at 317-626-3949. Sarah Childs > On Apr 30, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Blake Henderson <bl...@mobiusconsortium.org> > wrote: > > Apparently 104 is off limits tonight. We are in the lobby now > >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 7:17 PM Jason Etheridge <ja...@equinoxinitiative.org> >> wrote: >> Blake is always the spy (even when he's not). >> >> -- Jason >> >> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 6:36 PM Ruth Frasur <direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org> >>> wrote: >>> EOB meets at 7:30. Blake is a spy. >>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 5:24 PM Blake Henderson <bl...@mobiusconsortium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> All, >>>> >>>> If anyone is interested, games can happen! >>>> >>>> Room 104 >>>> I'll get things heated up around 8pm. >>>> >>>> Some ideas for games: >>>> Resistance >>>> ... >>>> .. >>>> Something else? >>>> Something else? >>>> >>>> But seriously, >>>> Asara >>>> Terraforming Mars >>>> Terra Mystica >>>> Smallworld >>>> Splendor >>>> Carcassonne >>>> Codenames >>>> 7 Wonders >>>> Between Two Cities >>>> Tyrants of the Underdark >>>> Captain Sonar >>>> Uno >>>> Through the Ages >>>> Pandemic Cthulhu >>>> >>>> To name a few. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -Blake- >>>> Conducting Magic >>>> MOBIUS >>>>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Normalizing full stops in personal author names
With the second approach, can it be a space and a single letter, regardless of case? In at least one example (k.d. lang), the authorized version is in lowercase, and there are probably others. On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Josh Stompro <stomp...@exchange.larl.org> wrote: > Hello, I’m curious what the correct approach is for dealing with multiple > entries in the browse and facet lists, when the difference is just the > ending period/full stop. > > > > For example, Some of the records have > > =100 1\$aAdler-Olsen, Jussi,$eauthor. > > And some have > > =100 1\$aAdler-Olsen, Jussi. > > > > This results in two facet lines and two browse lines for the same author. > > > > Is the correct approach to normalize the data? > > > > Or would an index normalizer be appropriate here, something to remove > periods when they are not preceded by a space and a single capital letter? > > Something like “r/([^ ][^A-Z])(\.)$/$1/” > > > > Thanks > > > > Lake Agassiz Regional Library - Moorhead MN larl.org > > Josh Stompro | Office 218.233.3757 EXT-139 <(218)%20233-3757> > > LARL IT Director | Cell 218.790.2110 <(218)%20790-2110> > > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9
These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org> wrote: > Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a > mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might > look like. > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXvi7yTssMpuYw > 2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing > > Thanks for your feedback! > Jeanette > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren <jlundg...@cwmars.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> Thank you for the feedback. >> >> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280 >> x 1024 resolution. >> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and >> 7 rows of the search result >> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons >> and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows >> before having to scroll. >> >> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution. The >> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for >> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click >> the search button. >> >> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if you >> think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial. >> Thanks! >> >> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <open-ils-general-request@list >> .georgialibraries.org> wrote: >> >>> Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to >>> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-il >>> s-general >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>>1. Opportunity for donated booth at Southern California Linux >>> Expo (Kathy Lussier) >>>2. Re: Web Client - Z39.50 Interface (Sarah Childs) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500 >>> From: Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org> >>> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' >>> <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> >>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern >>> California Linux Expo >>> Message-ID: <2bfbf865-957a-e4d5-1901-c499d5794...@masslnc.org> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted >>> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project would >>> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the >>> project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be >>> interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a >>> booth, feel free to send me an email directly. The Outreach Committee >>> would be able to send you some materials for the booth. >>> >>> Kathy >>> >>> -- >>> Kathy Lussier >>> Project Coordinator >>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative >>> (508) 343-0128 >>> kluss...@masslnc.org >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500 >>> From: Sarah Childs <sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org> >>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group >>> <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> >>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface >>> Message-ID: >>>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Acquisitions Interest Group meeting minutes & request for dedicated Acquisitions Listserv
I would vote no, also. I agree that the cataloging listserv is currently very low volume, and I would not mind at all seeing the acquisitions discussion on the cataloging list if a relatively quiet space is needed to hash things out. I say this as a subscriber to the cataloging listserv with no direct interest in acq, as we're not currently using it at my library. I think including all tech services topics on the cataloging list is totally appropriate. On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Christine Burns < christine.bu...@bc.libraries.coop> wrote: > Hello > > The Acquisitions Interest Group is requesting an Acquisitions specific > listserv. Currently Acquisitions falls under the Cataloguers list with the > rest of technicial services. During the Acquisitions Interest Group > meeting at the Evergreen Conference this month the group discussed the need > for an Acquisitions specific listserv to facilitate AIG activity. We are > anticipating an increased amount of Acquisitions specific discussions > during the Angularization of the Acquisitions module in the web client. > > This topic is open for discussion please voice your opinion by *Friday > May 5th*. > > A copy of the meeting minutes can be found on the Acquisitions Interest > Group wiki page here - https://wiki.evergreen-ils. > org/doku.php?id=acq:interest-group > > Thank you > Christine > > -- > Christine Burns > Co-op Support > BC Libraries Cooperative > Ph: 1-888-848-9250 > <(888)%20848-9250>https://bc.libraries.coophttps://status.libraries.coop/ > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
Hopefully there will be a quick resolution. The problem seems to be affecting a lot of libraries. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu> wrote: > We might end up using Vandelay, but we might also just wait for this > issue to be resolved. There's no shortage of other things to do > around here. :-) > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Elaine Hardy > <eha...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: > > OH NO! > > > > Can you use Vandeley for the duration of the error? Before I reported the > > problem with OCLC I used it to overlay a record to check if the issue was > > more widespread than the Z39.50 interface. Diacritics were fine. > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > J. Elaine Hardy > > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager > > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES > > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 > > Atlanta, GA 30045 > > > > 404.235.7128 Office > > 404.548.4241 Cell > > 404.235.7201 FAX > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu> > > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Elaine and Galen! I did submit a launchpad bug > >> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1675074), please feel free > >> to comment on or refine it. > >> > >> And here's hoping that OCLC fixes this soon! It happened while we > >> were in the middle of a Spanish-language cataloging project; not a > >> great time for diacritics issues. :-( > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Galen Charlton > >> <g...@equinoxinitiative.org> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg < > sand...@linnbenton.edu> > >> > wrote: > >> >> Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset > >> >> and fix this problem? > >> > > >> > Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it > >> > would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server > >> > character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that > >> > default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug > >> > if you haven't done so already. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Galen > >> > -- > >> > Galen Charlton > >> > Infrastructure and Added Services Manager > >> > Equinox Open Library Initiative > >> > phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > >> > email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org > >> > web: https://equinoxInitiative.org > >> > direct: +1 770-709-5581 > >> > cell: +1 404-984-4366 > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jane Sandberg > >> Electronic Resources Librarian > >> Linn-Benton Community College > >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > >> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs > > > > > > > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)
Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this magic? On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu> wrote: > We have been taking them out of our records. Terry Reese's MarcEdit > program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for > anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on > them, and re-import them. > > Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the > OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share! > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy > <eha...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: > > While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an > OCLC > > WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed to > > work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now might > > mean adding them back later. > > > > We don't add them, either to records without them or to original input in > > OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to add FAST > > headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add them; but, > > you can if you want. > > > > I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display since > they > > are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance. I do also > > agree that they are messy. > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > J. Elaine Hardy > > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager > > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES > > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 > > Atlanta, GA 30045 > > > > 404.235.7128 Office > > 404.548.4241 Cell > > 404.235.7201 FAX > > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA) > > <rose.scho...@lva.virginia.gov> wrote: > >> > >> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to > >> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings? > >> > >> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and > thought > >> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to > take > >> them out? > >> > >> Thanks for any replies. > >> — > >> Rose M. Schooff > >> Technology Consultant > >> Library Development and Networking > >> The Library of Virginia > >> 800 E. Broad Street > >> Richmond, VA 23219 > >> 804-692-3772 > >> 804-310-7901 > >> > > > > > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)
We are keeping them in the records, but we are suppressing them so they don't display in the OPAC. On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA) < rose.scho...@lva.virginia.gov> wrote: > Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to > ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings? > > Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and thought > it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to take > them out? > > Thanks for any replies. > — > Rose M. Schooff > Technology Consultant > Library Development and Networking > The Library of Virginia > 800 E. Broad Street > Richmond, VA 23219 > 804-692-3772 <(804)%20692-3772> > 804-310-7901 <(804)%20310-7901> > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Searchable Copy Notes
My first thought is that like us, the libraries in Scott's consortium likely already have 1000s of existing copy notes that they want to be able to search. The alternate proposal sounds interesting, but I want to be able to search all the data that I already have. We've been using Evergreen since 2008, so we have many, many existing copy notes I'd like to be able to search. It sound like we use copy notes in a similar way. We put notes about various memorials. We also do annual "benefactor" notes for special Friend of the Library gifts. We also do notes which honor library volunteers each year. Basically, any time we do a book plate, we also add a copy note. It would be very useful to be able to search the copy note information. It would also be useful to have copy note templates that could be applied to multiple copies at once. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Mike Rylander <mrylan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott, > > Since your main use case is about applying the same message to many > specific copies, like a "digital book plate", it might be interesting to > consider using copy buckets with a new type of, say, "donation", instead. > Each bucket of that type would get its own name and description fields, > analogous to the title and value fields on copy notes. Here are some > benefits I see: > > * By only having the one bucket for a given donation, regardless of the > number of items, we avoid human error on the note entry. > * Also, searching the name and description strings becomes very "cheap" > compared to copy note title/value, since there is only the one bucket > rather than a note per item. > * We already have specialized bucket-related interfaces already, which > allow seeing the item set as a whole and manipulating them together. > * A URL can already be created that points any user, via the OPAC, at the > set of records with items in the container, and (as a bonus) searches can > be performed /within/ that set. > * Because we have container-specific logic in the search code already, > it's a (much, much, much) simpler path to add "searching" on name or > description of these donation buckets, rather than copy notes. > > Thoughts? > > > -- > Mike Rylander > | President > | Equinox Software, Inc. / Open Your Library > | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > | email: mi...@esilibrary.com > | web: http://www.esilibrary.com > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:14 PM, scott.tho...@sparkpa.org < > scott.tho...@sparkpa.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> We are trying to gauge community support for creating, in the staff >> client, a keyword search interface for Copy Notes. We are a statewide >> consortium. Since bib records are shared, we do not allow our members to >> use Local Notes tags like 590 for very localized information like “In >> memory of Jim Jones” or “Donated by Harry Haynes.” The problem is that >> descendants of Mr. Jones and Mr. Haynes himself might come in and demand to >> know what items come up, and we have no way of doing that (other than >> reports which cannot easily be run by front-line staff). Would anyone else >> like to see a search interface for Copy Notes? Also, what kind of >> information do other libraries and consortia place in Copy Notes? >> >> Thank you, >> Scott >> >> >> >> Scott Thomas >> >> Executive Director >> >> *PaILS / SPARK* >> >> (717) 873-9461 >> >> scott.tho...@sparkpa.org >> >> [image: Description: Description: Training | SPARK – Pennsylvania's >> Statewide Library System] <http://www.palibrary.org/pails/> >> >> >> > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant
I think both of those sound like great ideas, and I would be willing to help with bootcamp planning. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, McCanna, Terran < tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: > I'm with Jim - all good ideas, but personally I would LOVE to attend a > developer bootcamp. Each time I look at the code I learn something new > about how it works, but I'm sure I could contribute a lot more if I had > several solid days of training. > > > Terran McCanna > PINES Program Manager > Georgia Public Library Service > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 > Atlanta, GA 30345 > 404-235-7138 > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Taylor" <jtay...@jtdata.com> > To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:33:17 PM > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Knight Foundation Grant > > All of them sound like good ideas but I am ESPECIALLY interested in the > bootcamp idea (and options to avoid having to install Evergreen for such > purposes). I would probably even be willing to pay my own way so > definitely would attend if travel was covered. I would like to contribute > code but so far all of my other commitments have kept me from sorting it > out on my own. If I had a place to go so I could get away from my desk for > a few days and learn how the process works I would definitely show up. > > Jim > > > My questions related to the bootcamp idea are: > > * Does this sounds like a good idea? > * Are there people who would be willing to help out as instructors/mentors > for the bootcamp? This isn't a firm commitment, but, if I hear crickets on > this question, I know it's not something we should pursue further. Also, > please note, my idea is that any travel expenses related to the bootcamp > would be covered by the grant. > * I also would love to have some volunteers willing to help me plan for > the bootcamp, but, if there is sufficient interest in the first set of > volunteers, I will also tap people directly with this request. > * If we get positive answers from the first two questions, are there ways > we can improve upon this idea? > > Thanks to everyone who read this far in my e-mail. I look forward to > hearing your thoughts! > > Kathy > > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] IRC Discussions on Evergreen search
along all of the >>>>> chat >>>>> sessions. >>>>> >>>>> If you didn't fill out the first poll, you're certainly welcome to >>>>> sign up for any of these time slots. >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to let me know if you have any questions! >>>>> Kathy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 02/29/2016 04:26 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sending out a reminder to fill out the Doodle poll at >>>>>> http://doodle.com/poll/hkdy3u5255u3rpmr if you are interested in >>>>>> talking about search in Evergreen. I'm going to set some dates tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kathy >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/19/2016 05:54 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> During the dev hack-a-way in November, we had a discussion regarding >>>>>>> Evergreen search. The discussion happened at the request of MassLNC >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> we had some local discussions regarding what our overall goals for >>>>>>> Evergreen search are. We view search as one of the most important >>>>>>> pieces >>>>>>> of the ILS, if not the most important. It's what allows our users to >>>>>>> find >>>>>>> those resources we spend so much time cataloging so that they can then >>>>>>> place holds on them, check them out from the library, or access them in >>>>>>> some other way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I left the hack-a-way with an action item to start a larger >>>>>>> community discussion where we could identify some high-level goals for >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> we want Evergreen search to be and where we could define what we >>>>>>> consider >>>>>>> to be important factors in search relevance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to start this discussion with some focus-group-like >>>>>>> discussions in IRC where community members could identify the features >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> like about the current search and where they see room for improvement. >>>>>>> My >>>>>>> hope is that these discussions can help us define what we consider to >>>>>>> be an >>>>>>> ideal search system for Evergreen and allow the dev community to explore >>>>>>> options for making that ideal search system happen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the discussions will work best if they are not too large, so >>>>>>> I anticipate scheduling two or three or more depending on interest. If >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> are interested in participating, please fill out the Doodle at >>>>>>> http://doodle.com/poll/hkdy3u5255u3rpmr. I'll try my best to >>>>>>> schedule these discussions so that anyone who shows interest through the >>>>>>> Doodle poll has a chance to participate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have also talked to Yamil Suarez about scheduling some "Intro to >>>>>>> IRC" sessions ahead of time so that people who are unfamiliar with IRC >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> a chance to learn about it before the scheduled search discussions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Feel free to let me know if you have any questions! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kathy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- > Kathy Lussier > Project Coordinator > Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative > (508) 343-0128 > kluss...@masslnc.org > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier > > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Non-Public Copy Notes
That's my understanding. Whenever I place a hold on a particular copy for some reason, I use private copy notes to jog my memory about what I need to do with that item, since it can be a few weeks before the hold is filled. That is to me useful since I know it is there to look for it. You can also generate reports that contain them, so they could be used for projects. On the whole, though, I agree with you, they are not particularly useful, since other staff will never see them unless they specifically seek them out, and it is very tedious to access them. I've always thought it would be very helpful if there was an option for copy notes in the column picker. I could use it for checking my public copy notes without viewing every item in the OPAC, and it would make private copy notes much more readily visible to staff. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Scott Thomas sc...@albright.org wrote: We have been doing some tests with Copy Notes. My assumption was that, if you did not mark the “Public” checkbox when creating a note, it would appear in catalog displays in the staff client, but not in the public catalog. Our tests revealed that non-public Copy Notes appear…well…nowhere except in Edit Item Attributes / Copy Notes. This, of course, renders them pretty much useless. Am I missing something? Scott Scott Thomas, MLS Head of Information Technologies and Technical Services Scranton Public Library Lackawanna County Library System 2006 N. Main Ave. Scranton, PA 18508 Ph: 570-207-2379 Fx: 570-348-3020 Email: sc...@albright.org -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)
In response to Dan's points a) Yes. b) Yes. c) I think this is a discussion issue as well. I would prefer using no terms at all when there is no term or code, because it's not possible to sufficiently determine the relationship of the person to the work. A 700 field in a book record could be for an added author, an illustrator, an editor, a preface author, etc. For media, the possibilities are equally varied or even moreso. I think if no information is supplied in the record, we shouldn't try to supply a descriptor. Just give the name. It's frequently explained in notes or the 245. d) Yes. This but this situation would be fairly rare, so I think it's the least pressing issue. I'm fine with giving subfield 4 precedence. e) Haven't noticed anything in this area, but it would be wise to look into it and resolve if needed. The terms in RDA are controlled-ish. There is a list of terms to be used, but catalogers can supply their own if none in the list are considered appropriate. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: It sounds like there are a few issues here, let me see if I can separate them out: a) bug: relator term $e is not being recognized as the relator, but is included in the text display along with parenthetical notation for the default relationship (e.g. 700 = (added author)) b) bug: multiple $4 relator codes are not displayed properly, where properly might mean something like $700 $a White, Jack $4 cre $4 dir should be displayed as White, Jack (creator, director) c) bug: the default relationship of added author for 7xx fields when no relator code or term is specified needs to reflect the underlying item type (e.g. for a musical recording, should display something like Added artist) d) discussion issue: when both $e relator terms and $4 relator codes are included in the same field, it's not clear what to display e) (unknown if this is an issue, but probably) $e relator terms and $4 relator codes may or may not be indexed as expected For my part on (d), I'm still firmly of the belief that $4 relator code should take precedence; it's value can easily be translated in the display (and is, for French) and can be used for linked data (like pointing to http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/dtc), whereas the $e relator terms are effectively uncontrolled text fields that make both translation and linked data much, much more difficult. Dan On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: +1 *Elaine* J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Sarah Childs *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 4:51 PM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?) A summary of what I propose: If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed. Display subfield e if present Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is fine with me) -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)
It seems that the current behavior is that there is always a parenthetical, and if there is a subfield e present, it always displays as well. I added a subfield 4 to a record, and it appears that what the bug fix does is to use the code from the subfield 4 to replace the parenthetical information with more descriptive information than the default. Unfortunately, the subfield 4 is actually used really rarely, because it's optional and catalogers never really got on board with it. So the vast majority of the time you get the default, which is either (Author) for the 100 field or (Added Author) for the 100 field. That's so general as to be not particularly useful, since when it's accurate that information is usually clear from the 245, which is displayed above it. For media it's basically always wrong, and it's wrong pretty frequently for books, too. Based on that, the main change I'd like to see is that the parenthetical not be displayed when there is no subfield 4. Right now if we have both subfield 4 and subfield e, both are displayed, so I wouldn't really describe subfield e as a fallback. I think if both are present we should display one or the other, but I don't really feel strongly about which. Whichever is easier is fine with me. :-) A summary of what I propose: If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed. Display subfield e if present Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is fine with me) On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi Sarah, Looking at the subfield e information in that bug, Dan says: Fall back to the $e if there is no explicit relator code; It sounds like you are proposing the opposite, use the $e and, if it's not available, fall back to the relator codes (subfield 4). I would support that change in direction. It sounds like an LP bug is in order! :) Kathy On 05/28/2015 03:15 PM, Sarah Childs wrote: If the bug is not the same problem as the one Tony is describing, it's very closely related. The bug does refer to the subfield e, the RDA terms, and it looks like that's what the non-parenthetical terms are in his example. I would vote for ditching the parenthetical terms entirely. If there are relator terms, display them (subfield e). If there are not, but there are relator codes (subfield 4), translate and supply those. (Don't give codes, give terms.) If there is nothing, give nothing, just the names. The parenthetically supplied terms are usually not that useful and often are misleading, redundant, or both. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi Tony, I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously added (Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA records. Now that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying the relator information from subfield e. Kathy On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hello everyone, Quick check if you have a moment? I’m working on TPAC cleanups for our consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author notations such as this: *Hillenbrand, Laura, http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author* *author. (Author).* *Herrmann, Edward, 1943- http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author* *narrator. (Added Author)* Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954) - Has anyone encountered this? Do you think this bug is the same thing? I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author’s name. If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix released? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 614-486-2966%20x19 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)
That should be (Added Author) for the 700 field. And I would be on board with displaying the subfield e as a parenthetical instead of the plain text as Janet describes, although, alternatively if we displayed information from the subfield 4 consistently with the subfield e display, I'd be fine with that too, just so long as it's consistent one way or the other. And I hadn't looked for cases where the subfield 4 is repeated, but if only one is displaying, I agree that should be remedied. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org wrote: It seems that the current behavior is that there is always a parenthetical, and if there is a subfield e present, it always displays as well. I added a subfield 4 to a record, and it appears that what the bug fix does is to use the code from the subfield 4 to replace the parenthetical information with more descriptive information than the default. Unfortunately, the subfield 4 is actually used really rarely, because it's optional and catalogers never really got on board with it. So the vast majority of the time you get the default, which is either (Author) for the 100 field or (Added Author) for the 100 field. That's so general as to be not particularly useful, since when it's accurate that information is usually clear from the 245, which is displayed above it. For media it's basically always wrong, and it's wrong pretty frequently for books, too. Based on that, the main change I'd like to see is that the parenthetical not be displayed when there is no subfield 4. Right now if we have both subfield 4 and subfield e, both are displayed, so I wouldn't really describe subfield e as a fallback. I think if both are present we should display one or the other, but I don't really feel strongly about which. Whichever is easier is fine with me. :-) A summary of what I propose: If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed. Display subfield e if present Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is fine with me) On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi Sarah, Looking at the subfield e information in that bug, Dan says: Fall back to the $e if there is no explicit relator code; It sounds like you are proposing the opposite, use the $e and, if it's not available, fall back to the relator codes (subfield 4). I would support that change in direction. It sounds like an LP bug is in order! :) Kathy On 05/28/2015 03:15 PM, Sarah Childs wrote: If the bug is not the same problem as the one Tony is describing, it's very closely related. The bug does refer to the subfield e, the RDA terms, and it looks like that's what the non-parenthetical terms are in his example. I would vote for ditching the parenthetical terms entirely. If there are relator terms, display them (subfield e). If there are not, but there are relator codes (subfield 4), translate and supply those. (Don't give codes, give terms.) If there is nothing, give nothing, just the names. The parenthetically supplied terms are usually not that useful and often are misleading, redundant, or both. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi Tony, I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously added (Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA records. Now that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying the relator information from subfield e. Kathy On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hello everyone, Quick check if you have a moment? I’m working on TPAC cleanups for our consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author notations such as this: *Hillenbrand, Laura, http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author* *author. (Author).* *Herrmann, Edward, 1943- http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author* *narrator. (Added Author)* Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954) - Has anyone encountered this? Do you think this bug is the same thing? I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author’s name. If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix released? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 614-486-2966%20x19 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)
If the bug is not the same problem as the one Tony is describing, it's very closely related. The bug does refer to the subfield e, the RDA terms, and it looks like that's what the non-parenthetical terms are in his example. I would vote for ditching the parenthetical terms entirely. If there are relator terms, display them (subfield e). If there are not, but there are relator codes (subfield 4), translate and supply those. (Don't give codes, give terms.) If there is nothing, give nothing, just the names. The parenthetically supplied terms are usually not that useful and often are misleading, redundant, or both. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi Tony, I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously added (Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA records. Now that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying the relator information from subfield e. Kathy On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hello everyone, Quick check if you have a moment? I’m working on TPAC cleanups for our consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author notations such as this: *Hillenbrand, Laura, http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author* *author. (Author).* *Herrmann, Edward, 1943- http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author* *narrator. (Added Author)* Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954) - Has anyone encountered this? Do you think this bug is the same thing? I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author’s name. If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix released? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Show available copies link in the catalog
Nice. I like this. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Geoff Sams gs...@roanoketexas.com wrote: I suggested this in IRC, but thought it would be beneficial here as well: My recommendation is to change the left column to show X of Y copies in Consortium/Region/Branch/etc. (Show) I feel like this would be the simplest and cleanest solution to the issue, and it would also make both columns a bit more in sync with each other. Thanks, Geoff Sams Library Manager Roanoke Public Library -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:29 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Show available copies link in the catalog Hi all, I've periodically heard from our libraries that they would like the show copies link that displays in the available copies area of the public catalog record to display even if there are no copies available. To demonstrate what I'm talking about, if you look at the record-with-available-copies screenshot, there is a link to show all of the available copies, which, when clicked, displays copies owned by all libraries in the consortium. However, if you look at the record-with-no-available-copies screenshot, that link does not display. I believe this is because the intent of this particular section of the screen is to display available copy information, in which case, the Show link wouldn't make sense if there are zero available copies. However, there are many cases when a user may start a search scoped to their own library, but then may want to see all of the copies in the consortium. For example, if there are zero copies available, but only a handful of holds, they may want to see the status of the existing copies to get an idea of whether they are due soon. Or we may have a situation described by one of our libraries where they already have a hold on the title, click to the title from their holds list (carrying along the search scope in the process), and then want to see the status of the copies owned by other libraries in the consortium. I think it's a good idea to add a link to display all copies, but the question is where would be a good place to put. I've thought of a couple of options: 1 - Display a Show link adjacent to the x current holds with x total copies statement. The problem here is that the Show link is a bit redundant if the other Show link is always displaying. 2 - Make the x total copies text in the holds area clickable to show all copies owned by the consortium. The problem with this approach is it is inconsistent with what's happening in the available copies area. 3 - Make the existing Show link display regardless of the current availability status of copies on the record, even if it is a bit incongruous with what that area is supposed to represent. Of course, we could always leave that area as it is if other libraries are happy with the display. What are your thoughts? Thanks! Kathy -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Show available copies link in the catalog
Between your three options, I don't have strong feelings one way or another. Any of them seems reasonably serviceable, but none seems ideal. I would prefer either of the following options: Option A Just above the spot where it actually shows the copies is the place where it seems most obvious to me to be able to change the scope of what's displayed. So how about adding links just above the line where the column descriptions for the copy information are? I suggest link text that says something like: Show copies in X consortium and Show copies in X Library system if you you were scoped to the branch level. If you were scoped to the Consortium it would say Show only copies in X branch and Show only copies in X Library system And of course for Library system you would have either Show copies in X consortium or Show only copies in X branch I think having different text than just Show (such as Show only) would be helpful to tip off users that clicking the link will narrow the scope. Perhaps there could even be a Limit to available copies check box near these links, and the Show links where the number of Available copies is displayed could be eliminated. Option B I suggest adding a Total Copies column between the Available Copies and Current Holds columns, and eliminating the with x total copies text from the Current Holds column. I prefer Option A, but I like Option B nearly as well and it would a smaller change. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org wrote: Between your three options, I don't have strong feelings one way or another. Any of them seems reasonably serviceable, but none seems ideal. I would prefer either of the following options: Option A Just above the spot where it actually shows the copies is the place where it seems most obvious to me to be able to change the scope of what's displayed. So how about adding links just above the line where the column descriptions for the copy information are? I suggest link text that says something like: Show copies in X consortium and Show copies in X Library system if you you were scoped to the branch level. If you were scoped to the Consortium it would say Show only copies in X branch and Show only copies in X Library system And of course for Library system you would have either Show copies in X consortium or Show only copies in X branch I think having different text than just Show (such as Show only) would be helpful to tip off users that clicking the link will narrow the scope. Perhaps there could even be a Limit to available copies check box near these links, and the Show links where the number of Available copies is displayed could be eliminated. Option B I suggest adding a Total Copies column between the Available Copies and Current Holds columns, and eliminating the with x total copies text from the Current Holds column. I prefer Option A, but I like Option B nearly as well and it would a smaller change. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi all, I've periodically heard from our libraries that they would like the show copies link that displays in the available copies area of the public catalog record to display even if there are no copies available. To demonstrate what I'm talking about, if you look at the record-with-available-copies screenshot, there is a link to show all of the available copies, which, when clicked, displays copies owned by all libraries in the consortium. However, if you look at the record-with-no-available-copies screenshot, that link does not display. I believe this is because the intent of this particular section of the screen is to display available copy information, in which case, the Show link wouldn't make sense if there are zero available copies. However, there are many cases when a user may start a search scoped to their own library, but then may want to see all of the copies in the consortium. For example, if there are zero copies available, but only a handful of holds, they may want to see the status of the existing copies to get an idea of whether they are due soon. Or we may have a situation described by one of our libraries where they already have a hold on the title, click to the title from their holds list (carrying along the search scope in the process), and then want to see the status of the copies owned by other libraries in the consortium. I think it's a good idea to add a link to display all copies, but the question is where would be a good place to put. I've thought of a couple of options: 1 - Display a Show link adjacent to the x current holds with x total copies statement. The problem here is that the Show link is a bit redundant if the other Show link is always displaying. 2 - Make the x total copies text in the holds area clickable to show all copies owned by the consortium. The problem with this approach is it is inconsistent
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 2.5.2 Subject Browse Index
This is an interesting and useful idea (especially for catalogers!), but I'm not sure patrons would dig the intervening screen when performing the keyword subject search. It strikes that the function would be rather like a disambiguation page on Wikipedia. It might be nice might be nice if something like this displayed along with the search results, or if you got a link at the top of your search results directing you to it. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-06-20 10:08, Elizabeth B. Thomsen wrote: I think that Don is talking about something different -- a way to keyword search subject headings. Right now we have two subject search options: On the Basic and Advanced search screen, choosing subject and entering search terms gets you all the records that have that term in subject headings. Show me all the bib records that have the word Puffins somewhere in the subject headings. On the Browse search, you choose subject and enter search terms, and you are shown the alphabetical section of the index that starts with whatever you entered. You get to a list of subject headings and their subdivisions (at least if you've done your indexes as described earlier in this thread, and they have the subdivisions like Bibliomations. Keyword searching of subject headings would be saying Show me all the subject headings that include these search terms. If you entered Washington, for example, you'd get something like this: George Washington Bridge (New York, N.Y.) (3) Washington, Booker T., 1856-1915 (30) Washington, George 1732-1783 (100) That would be a great feature, something like Find Headings, but I wouldn't want to see it replace either the way subject searching on basic advanced or subject browse works now. On 6/20/2014 9:45 AM, Kathy Lussier wrote: On 6/20/2014 9:20 AM, Donald Butterworth wrote: I agree with Janet, that the whole subject phrase needs to be kept together so that only the limited set displays when clicking on the phrase. There are lots of DLC authority records that include a main subject and subdivisions. I'm confused now. Are we still talking about the subject browse index or are we talking about the bib record? If we're talking about the subject browse index, I would agree, primarily because the user is presumably seeing a hierarchy of subjects where the broader term may be directly above the term they are looking at and the narrower term is directly below. The current behavior is that the link keeps the subject phrase together when you click on it, so no changes would be required here. If we're talking about the bib record, I have to say I put a lot of faith into what I'm sure is highly-funded usability testing done by Amazon. As Dan mentioned, the current link behavior for subject headings is similar to what Amazon is using. If the Evergreen community were to do a coordinated batch of usability testing (probably not a bad idea) and found that end users were indeed confused by the behavior, I might think differently, but I personally like the ability to click higher in the subject heading to broaden my search. Kathy -- Elizabeth Thomsen, Member Services Manager NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange 26 Cherry Hill Drive Danvers MA 01923 E-mail: e...@noblenet.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Notification is library is last owning on a held item?
It be nice if this would work so you could set this to tell you that it when it IS the last copy, or instead set it so that it would tell you when it ISN'T the last copy. For us, the majority of the things we buy we only have one copy locally, so it would probably get annoying if it told us every time something was the last copy (since that would be most of the time). It would be actually more helpful for us if the system told us when an item we delete is NOT the last copy, because then we would know not to remove OCLC holdings for those items. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-04-02 15:18, Hardy, Elaine wrote: PINES would like this feature to identify when the last copy held by a system (not a branch) is deleted from the bib record for removing OCLC holdings as well. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Elisabeth Keppler Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 8:06 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Notification is library is last owning on a held item? We'd also like to be able to identify when our own library's last copy is being discarded or deleted so we can remove our OCLC holdings. We're on 2.4.3, if that makes a difference, and would welcome any suggestions. I can report holds for which there is no holdable copy (which we call hopeless holds) if that would help you, Buzzy. Using the Hold/Copy Ratio per Bib report source, here are the filters and displays: Inline image 1 Inline image 2 We use the results to generate emails or postcards to patrons letting them know that we're unable to fill their hold. For materials older than a year, we include instructions on how to request ILL. The example above filters on just our holdings rather than the entire consortium's, but leaving off the Owning Library Name filter would fix that. Hope that helps, Lise Keppler Forsyth County NC On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Buzzy Nielsen bu...@hoodriverlibrary.org wrote: Hi folks, Does anyone know, is there a feature in Evergreen, whether currently in place or in development, that would notify a library is it's the last owning library that carries a particular held item? We have a large consortium, 70+ libraries, and patrons can place holds on pretty much any member library's items. It would be really helpful if there could be some sort of alert if a library's that's the last holding one marks a held item missing. That way, the patron's home library could notify him/her that they're unable to get the item through the consortium. I hope that my question makes sense! Cheers! Buzzy Library Director Hood River County Library District 502 State Street Hood River, Oregon 97031 541-387-7062 http://hoodriverlibrary.org -- Lise Keppler Forsyth County Public Library 660 W 5th St Winston Salem NC 27101 336-703-3070
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 09:59, Rogan Hamby wrote: I think that at this point it's kind of like RDA - it will be part of the process even if it's not the actual final thing, and even though what we see now may be a very different beast by the end it may have the same name as this thing along with some of its DNA. And in the spirit of things vaguely kind of will and not quite yet but kind of now does I present the evergreen bibframe haiku: No one catalog Along this library but I, This evergreen bibframe. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: Okay, and I'm not knowledgeable about any of it to get worked up at all. I am, however, interested to see if this is an actual thing or just another library idea that ends up being a pain with little added value. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: A discussion of bibframe could be a very long thread in it's own right. I don't have strong feelings about it. Any new content / carrier formats that come out will be compromises. Frankly, RDA/Bibframe is all fairly underwhelming to me though it going forward is a good thing and there are potential uses that could be pretty cool. And there is a long road ahead where plenty can change so I'm hesitant to get too worked up about it. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: I just received an invitation Zepheira to attend a webinar to look at a progression from MARC to BIBFRAME. I know next to nothing about this and was wondering about any thoughts on it from the Evergreen community. -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Wish list items from the Cataloging Interest Group meeting Evergreen 2014.
I have just added a somewhat related wishlist bug for improving the Copy Notes function. Curious to know if others would find these improvements would alleviate the need to publicly display local notes in MARC. https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297909 --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 09:11, Hardy, Elaine wrote: I have added several wish list items we discussed during the cataloging interest group meeting held at this year's Evergreen International Conference. They are: Link to Edit MARC in record summary https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297833 In the record summary, in addition to links for Add Volumes and View MARC, add a link to Edit MARC. Access to the link would be controlled by permissions so that if user did not have permission to edit a MARC record the link would be grayed out and not functional for them. This would allow catalogers to access Edit MARC functionality more quickly and improve workflow. MARC tag/field edit permissions https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297836 Within MARC Edit, the ability to set permissions by MARC tag/field so that a library could assign editing tasks for a specific field to an individual user. For example, allowing a user to edit only the 300 field in the MARC record and not be able to edit any other field. In addition to being controlled by permissions, the ability to allow specific tag/field edits should also be a library or server setting so that a library or consortium can allow or disallow the functionality as a whole. Ability to display notes in public facing OPAC by specific library https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297838 In library consortia, local notes (e.g. 590s) specific to an individual library's copy/item is not generally allowed. We would like the ability to make local notes in the MARC bibliographic record display in OPAC searches scoped to the specific library. We envision this to be similar to the |9 in 856 fields whereby coding within the field creates local notes that would then display only to the system or branch indicated in the field. This would also be valuable to other note fields as well. For example, where different libraries have different use and reproduction rights that could be indicated in a 540 note scoped for an individual library. These notes would be repeatable with in the MARC bibliographic record. For those of you that requested or supported the wish list items, please take a moment to add to the Launchpad report, whether to clarify your request or to add that it effects you. If you did not request the report, please login and do the same, or let us know where there may be problems with the request we did not foresee in our discussion. Please also let me know if I missed a discussion item you would like to add as a wish list or bug fix. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
That's a good point, as long as we emerge from this stage as stronger, smarter, and maturely developed, rather than emotionally stunted, scarred for life, and unable to move on. :) --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 11:17, Ruth Frasur wrote: I don't know. There's definite value in the adolescent stage, even if it's ugly and painful. Well, it'll surely be interesting to see where it goes and it/when it affects Evergreen infrastructure. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: Just because we can have lived through something doesn't mean we wouldn't like to skip it. I've lived through my oldest child's adolescent years and would rather have skipped those (probably my own too come to think of it).. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Marc Truitt mtru...@mta.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which we all must live. I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences of AACR2 and MARC? Probably many aren't senior enough to have been around then! :) - - mt On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. - -- * Marc Truitt University Librarianvoice : 506-364-2567 Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca Libraries and Archives fax: 506-364-2617 49 York Street cell : 506-232-0503 Sackville, NB E4L 1C6 Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us. See, I am showing you. She made these words on a /page/, and a page is made of /paper/. She made the words with /writing/, that she marked down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a /book/. See, I am showing you. This is the Book, these are the Pages, here is the Writing. -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ (2013) Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978! * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTMumbAAoJEPzj7kQh8LzLok4IAI2GPldHaLSM21383EjGamNA BXbya2Znj7sHz7Zm0fHgAzsB3+aIz5GMq2UoaEXwhdSLY25Tp0AxOA8vbSs0csva w/1hPkhbm5MHhFN3O+cdkiJ1Xc3eK3vHNCJOeG5lRNO12OL8fNTvFChM+QRZ5m3E +NQwDHF7z3iOrKt1H9Ko9uDzanqr2ki8hxnuxfqO36ousEAfkZyI+QTe4uqna3nA a7JO/tDB4aqeNWoY67LHX5xFTQ+Ggav0+DnbPReZUt34LvspMxB4onJPYI0A5zpg CWinJTvkmI0FYwdRb40Glt8MSK+qGRbdiKdrRvNcpJ0UgXRsIh5mbu6gNU/s5TA= =Ea0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Wish list items from the Cataloging Interest Group meeting Evergreen 2014.
Interesting. We don't do local notes like that. Either it's true for everyone so we would add it to the MARC generally, or we would add it as a copy note. Sounds like this is a feature that would be useful for you, but not for us. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 13:26, Elizabeth Thomsen wrote: I'd like a way to have both local bib fields and local copy notes. For example, when searching within the context of a particular library, you might want to have local notes related to the author's affiliation (faculty or alumni author, local author, etc.), contents or subject matter (Chapter 10 includes several photographs of parks and buildings in X town) -- things that are specifically important to one library but that belong at the bib level because they are true of all copies. Local copy notes would be used for things that are only true of a particular copy -- restriction, donor, autographs, etc. -- Elizabeth Thomsen, Member Services Manager NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange 26 Cherry Hill Drive Danvers Massachusetts 01923 E-mail: e...@noblenet.org On Wed, March 26, 2014 11:40 am, Sarah Childs wrote: I have just added a somewhat related wishlist bug for improving the Copy Notes function. Curious to know if others would find these improvements would alleviate the need to publicly display local notes in MARC. https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297909 --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 09:11, Hardy, Elaine wrote: I have added several wish list items we discussed during the cataloging interest group meeting held at this year's Evergreen International Conference. They are: Link to Edit MARC in record summary https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297833 In the record summary, in addition to links for Add Volumes and View MARC, add a link to Edit MARC. Access to the link would be controlled by permissions so that if user did not have permission to edit a MARC record the link would be grayed out and not functional for them. This would allow catalogers to access Edit MARC functionality more quickly and improve workflow. MARC tag/field edit permissions https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297836 Within MARC Edit, the ability to set permissions by MARC tag/field so that a library could assign editing tasks for a specific field to an individual user. For example, allowing a user to edit only the 300 field in the MARC record and not be able to edit any other field. In addition to being controlled by permissions, the ability to allow specific tag/field edits should also be a library or server setting so that a library or consortium can allow or disallow the functionality as a whole. Ability to display notes in public facing OPAC by specific library https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1297838 In library consortia, local notes (e.g. 590s) specific to an individual library's copy/item is not generally allowed. We would like the ability to make local notes in the MARC bibliographic record display in OPAC searches scoped to the specific library. We envision this to be similar to the |9 in 856 fields whereby coding within the field creates local notes that would then display only to the system or branch indicated in the field. This would also be valuable to other note fields as well. For example, where different libraries have different use and reproduction rights that could be indicated in a 540 note scoped for an individual library. These notes would be repeatable with in the MARC bibliographic record. For those of you that requested or supported the wish list items, please take a moment to add to the Launchpad report, whether to clarify your request or to add that it effects you. If you did not request the report, please login and do the same, or let us know where there may be problems with the request we did not foresee in our discussion. Please also let me know if I missed a discussion item you would like to add as a wish list or bug fix. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Investigating Evergreen Holds functionality in PINES
Very interesting--thanks for sharing! --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-04 13:17, Hardy, Elaine wrote: In 2013, Leslie St. John (a consultant with PINES) and I investigated Evergreen holds functionality in PINES to provide answers to questions from staff at PINES libraries. Key among those questions were how holds were processed and whether that processing was in accordance with PINES policies and needs. The white paper Investigating Evergreen Holds functionality in PINES and the Executive Summary present our findings and conclusions. They can be found at http://pines.georgialibraries.org/holds-white-paper Please keep in mind as you look over the paper that we were testing how PINES implements Evergreen (version 2.3) holds processing. Your library or consortium may differ. However, we hope that the paper is useful to others in the Evergreen community. We wish to thank Kathy Lussier and MassLNC for the use of their testing scenarios. Using them as a basis for ours saved us a good deal of time. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds placed prior to status change
This is our process as well. Also, we don't use acquisitions yet, but if we have a request for an item, we add an on order record so that the holds can be placed. This way we don't get a pile up of patron request slips for popular items. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-02-27 09:52, Lynn Floyd wrote: We generally add the titles before release date, and keep them in the In-processing status. This allows the holds to be placed, but the title is technically unavailable. Then release date, we check them all in and capture the holds. We generally do it this way because of the amount of titles in general we catalog. Also patrons then can place their own holds on the title, when it shows up in the catalog. Lynn Floyd lfl...@andersonlibrary.org Anderson County Library 864-260-4500 x181 http://www.andersonlibrary.org http://www.andersonlibrary.org/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Elisabeth Keppler Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:46 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds placed prior to status change Thanks, everyone. I really appreciate how generous Evergreen librarians are with their knowledge and experience! Out of curiosity, is it common practice out there to add hot new titles to the catalog the day before their lay-down date so that holds can be filled as soon as a title is released? We have patrons who call first thing on Tuesdays (mostly) to ask why their hold on the latest bestseller hasn't been filled yet. If we add items on lay-down day and stash them in the back for 24 hours, they'll scream. Lise Keppler On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Laurie Love ll...@arlibrary.org wrote: Lise: I'm part of the NC Cardinal system also and Wilkes (Appalachian Regional) has been with Evergreen since 2011. If you ever want to call or email me with questions, I'm happy to try to help. The holds are really tricky with Evergreen and there are lots of foibles. The Find another Target is supposed to look for another title to satisfy the hold. Doesn't always work in my experience though. Laurie Love Circ. Mgr. Wilkes County Public Library ll...@arlibrary.org 336-838-2818 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Elisabeth Keppler Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:05 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds placed prior to status change We're new to Evergreen and have been struggling with holds on new items. We've had issues with Find Another Target messing up the holds queue, but we may have been doing it incorrectly. When you say to Find Another Target for the hold on top of the queue, Tina, do you mean the first hold that appears when we click on View Holds for the record? This seems to be the newest hold and might not be for our library's patron. (We're in the NC Cardinal consortium. Since we use 6-month age hold protection, holds outside Forsyth County won't be filled by new items we add here.) We tried filtering to holds for just the branch where the new item was added, but that seems to have caused problems. Would you mind elaborating on your recommendation? Thanks very much, Lise Keppler Forsyth County Public Library On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Tina Ji (Project Sitka) t...@sitka.bclibraries.ca wrote: Hi Deana, If your 'missing' and 'trace' statuses are non-holdable, this is probably the expected behaviour. We experience the same thing with our hold targeter running every 15 mins for new holds (placed within 24 hours) and daily for old holds (placed 24 hours ago). So new holds may be targeted by a copy with newly achieved holdable status, but not the old ones. The opportunistic capture is related to the hold_copy_map, which is updated by the hold targeter, thus updated daily for old holds. Items with newly achieved holdable status is not in that table for old holds. We advise our sites doing Find Another Target for the hold on top of the queue or waiting for a day. The checkin modifier: Retarget Local Hold may help, to some extent. Tina Quoting Deana Cunningham deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org: Hi great brain! I was playing around today on our test server and have a question about hold triggering. After an item has a status change to missing or trace, any holds placed prior to that change are not getting triggered upon item check in. I have tried checking the item in numerous times (to see if maybe the first time when it changes the status back to reshelving it would activate the hold for capture at the next check in, but it did not. Placing a new hold on the item
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] undo-ing copy location edits
On a related note, in Indiana we recently added Display as a status. This works great for displays that you just fill up with new things as the previous ones get checked out. Instead of changing the shelving location you set the status of the materials as display, and then when they get checked out and checked back in they just go back through the regular reshelving to available status cycle and get reshelved at their usual shelving locations. Obviously, this isn't so useful for long term displays where you want the items on display to return to the display after being checked out. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-02-05 01:07, Jim Taylor wrote: Entirely possible…I believe Symphony can do that so already have an example. One thing they didn’t account for, at the time anyway, was what happens if you change an item after that. Say you decide to pull it from Fossils and put it in “Really Old Guys” instead. What happens? Surprisingly, everybody in the group discussion at a conference seemed to think I was silly for even being concerned even though they admitted it might be a problem. Just something, seemingly obvious, but , apparently not, to take into account if you pursue development of such a feature. Jim From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Dan Scott Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 9:52 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] undo-ing copy location edits On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Holly Brennan haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us wrote: We just started using a shelving location of ‘Display’ for items that have been pulled from their normal locations in order to be… you guessed it… on display. (Currently it’s *Fossils*) Using a copy bucket to change the locations is SO much easier than it was with our former ILS. We love that. So, of course, it made me greedy. What if it was just as easy to return items to their former locations? I thought, what if, when we’re done with the display, we could click a button to change the location of the items from ‘Display’ back to the 7 or so locations where the individual items regularly live. That would be cool. No, MAGIC. If we held onto the copy bucket with all these items, it seems possible (to me). The change could be a temporary location change. Something like, Please change to this new location, but remember your old one, because you’re going back there someday. Has anyone else dreamed of this? Any developers want to chime in whether it’s possible? Yep, dreamed of it long ago for a slightly different context: putting items on reserve (which could change their location and call number, too). One possibility that now leaps to mind is to make use of the auditor tables that track every change to a given copy and call number (and many other entities in the database... at least until those auditor tables are purged). We could whip up a batch action along the lines of Reset copy location to previous location pretty easily, I think.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inconsistent/wrong search results when searching by location in TPAC
We experience the same thing when we try to narrow a search to a particular shelving location. It generally just times out. I assume that approach works for single installations of Evergreen, and perhaps even small consortiums, but it's basically worthless for us. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-01-21 20:55, Mike Rylander wrote: Justin, The reason that search is slow is that you're effectively asking the system to return all bib records, then pull up all their copies, then pull up those copies' shelving locations, and finally filter out records that do not have copies that do not have shelving locations in your list. That is exactly the reason I built the new items functionality. With a little elbow grease, one could certainly use one of the many XML format output options available for use with the new items list to re-sort them however one would like, and display them exactly as one would wish. Just try replacing html-full with atom or rss2. In fact, you could even use the OPAC to do the heavy lifting for you if you were to extract the record IDs from the XML new item feed and built a search using the record_list() filter and the sort(titlesort) operator. Perhaps, with likely less total effort, an opac format could be added to the new item list, along with support for additional query components (such as sorting) in the case of the opac format. A simple redirect would do. A wishlist bug sounds like a good idea. Perhaps time or funding will materialize. On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Holly Brennan haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us wrote: This improves the presentation and allows for title sorting but the search takes *forever* to return and the results are always way off and frequently do not return any results at all. Having just tried it, TPAC claims there are no results whatsoever. Two or three page refreshes later it turns up 353 items. According to the DB we have 1951 distinct bibs with items in those locations. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Is there an open bug on it? Should there be? Weird. We, too, use New Books as a location for searching. I just pulled up the whole batch of new adult books in our library (5,070 records) without a problem. It took maybe one second to load the page. I didn't find a delay using your search method, either. I know this is sort of non-information, but it could be helpful so I chimed in. Let us know if you solve the problem! -Holly Holly Brennan Library Technology Specialist Homer Public Library 907-235-3180 (main) 907-435-3154 (direct) hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Justin Hopkins Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:56 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Inconsistent/wrong search results when searching by location in TPAC Hi guys, Like probably many others, we have noticed that Evergreen is lacking a really good new books feature. We've explored this: http://missourievergreen.org/opac/extras/browse/html-full/item-age/SRLWA The presentation of this option isn't very good though, and ideally we'd have the ability to sort by title. It just so happens that our library who is most interested in this has a shelving location at each of their branches called New Books. So we tried this approach using search syntax: http://missourievergreen.org/eg/opac/results?fi:item_type=query=locations(1307,1308,1309,1310,1311,1558,1559)+qtype=keywordlocg=174sort=titlesort) This improves the presentation and allows for title sorting but the search takes *forever* to return and the results are always way off and frequently do not return any results at all. Having just tried it, TPAC claims there are no results whatsoever. Two or three page refreshes later it turns up 353 items. According to the DB we have 1951 distinct bibs with items in those locations. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Is there an open bug on it? Should there be? Regards, Justin -- Mike Rylander | Director of Research and Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: mi...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Fwd: Opinions needed on copying patron data to the clipboard
For the simple yes/no vote I'll add my voice as a heavy daily user of the staff client that I prefer not to have an extra click. Long term, however, I agree that the click link to copy is probably very weird to new Evergreeners, and that a click to copy button or the more standard highlight/control-v would likely seem more natural to people. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2013-11-07 10:58, Kathy Lussier wrote: Hi all, Looking through the e-mail thread and the original LP bug, I counted that: 8 people indicated that they would like an acknowledgement that the text was copied. 7 indicated that they did not want the additional click. 7 indicated they wanted something else (3 of those 7 were also counted above because they showed a preference for one approach over another.) I agree that it would be preferable to have a tooltip or a consistent way to display an icon performs the action to copy to the clipboard. But my follow-up question to those suggestions is if there is anyone with the tuits to make it happen if we wanted to run with one of these approaches. In the case of the original question, it would be fairly easy to revert this part of the code to its previous state, and I would be willing to make the code changes if there was a large consensus to do so (I'm not sure we really have that consensus at the moment.) But that's about as far as my coding abilities go. :) I am hopeful that, once we move to a web client, all of the standard methods for copying and pasting will be available in the client interfaces, eliminating the need for special Evergreen conventions for copying this data. Thanks for the feedback everyone! Kathy Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier On 11/7/2013 10:08 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote: How about just an option to turn alerting on or off? I know that I generally don't want to be told when something succeeds. I generally only care about failures.
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs?
Hi, Tony. From the staff client side you can import barcodes into the item status screen to delete them using the Upload from File button. If all your report has is the barcodes you can save the excel file and import it straight into Item Status. (If the report has other fields, strip them from the file) However, I'd recommend breaking them into smaller chunks (100-200 or so) at a time. I just copy and paste groups from my report into a notepad file. Then you click the Upload from File, select your file and the items load. Highlight them and delete the whole group. It's a pretty quick and easy process. But I bet there would be a better way from the back end if it's a truly massive group. Somebody else will have to direct you there. --- Sarah Childs Senior Cataloger Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:52:46 -0400 From: Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs? To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: CAEKwE4V7Wn1ddDkW1F87hCp6G+425sxpWEG7r2aW=knrvhe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, Was wondering if I could post this out to the group for ideas? Working with a massive list of electronic resource bib records that are needing some mistakenly added item records removed from them. I've been able to create a list of item barcodes in the reports module. Is there a way I can mass add these items via a copy bucket so that I can delete them all at once from my list of bib records? Oris there a faster (better, cheaper, etc.) method of mass deleting item records from the bibliographic records that I'm not aware of? This involves electronic resource records, which don't need any attached item records. PSQL operation maybe that you have used before? Thanks for any links, thoughts, your experience on this as you have a minute or two Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20130326/e77dc3f6/attachment-0001.htm