Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
Trisha, Sorry I haven't responded sooner. Call numbers in standard fields (050, 082, etc), with some caveats, are indexed by default as keyword searches. I don't know for sure that an 099 or 090, for example, would be indexed. 082s with a 2nd indicator of 4 are not indexed as keyword searches and 050 2nd indicator 4 are probably also not keyword indexed (we're Dewey so I haven't confirmed how LCC functions in Evergreen). But you might be able index them for your setup. There is also the call number browse in the quick search - if is the only one of the quick searches that can be filtered by owning library. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Trisha Cantwell Keene Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:57 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment Elaine, Thanks so much for your info! My other question is how does Evergreen handle indexing of the call number assigned - the ultimate question being how easily are those records found by patrons when they search. Does Evergreen index the call numbers so a keyword search can be done? Thanks!! Trisha On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: PINES catalogers catalog equipment for circulation frequently. However, we do our original cataloging on OCLC and bring the record into PINES. We don't catalog directly into PINES unless the item is ephemeral in nature and won't be retained. The Type would be r : Three-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object. Models, dioramas, games, puzzles, simulations, sculptures and other three-dimensional art works, exhibits, machines, clothing, toys, and stitchery. See http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/type.shtm and http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html Call numbers are up to individual libraries in PINES and are dependent on the needs of their patrons and the library staff. So we see a wide variation in how equipment and realia are classified. Some use AV, some are specific - 16MM projector, some are just EQUIPMENT. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Trisha Cantwell Keene Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:57 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 tel:%28207%29%20801-5661 (207) 288-2328 tel:%28207%29%20288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London) -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Trisha, Sorry I haven’t responded sooner. Call numbers in standard fields (050, 082, etc), with some caveats, are indexed by default as keyword searches. I don’t know for sure that an 099 or 090, for example, would be indexed. 082s with a 2nd indicator of 4 are not indexed as keyword searches and 050 2nd indicator 4 are probably also not keyword indexed (we’re Dewey so I haven’t confirmed how LCC functions in Evergreen). But you might be able index them for your setup. There is also the call number browse in the quick search – if is the only one of the quick searches that can be filtered by owning library. To provide some background on why the above is true (also, for clarification, the 099 is indexed in the identifier|bibcn field by default), the keyword|keyword index is defined as everything but origin information (publisher, publishing location) that exists in the MODS3.2 transformation of the MARCXML. That's embodied in the following XPath: //mods32:mods/*[not(local-name()='originInfo')] The canonical definition of that is documented here: http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/v3/mods-mapping-3-2.html Of course, that is just the default out-of-the-box indexing definition for general keywords. That is entirely site-configurable, and you can add additional keyword index definitions, or replace the stock one with your own. And, note that they don't have to depend on MODS transformations, they can work with the MARC directly. Hope that helps, -- Mike Rylander | Director of Research and Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: mi...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Trisha Cantwell Keene Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:57 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment Elaine, Thanks so much for your info! My other question is how does Evergreen handle indexing of the call number assigned - the ultimate question being how easily are those records found by patrons when they search. Does Evergreen index the call numbers so a keyword search can be done? Thanks!! Trisha On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: PINES catalogers catalog equipment for circulation frequently. However, we do our original cataloging on OCLC and bring the record into PINES. We don’t catalog directly into PINES unless the item is ephemeral in nature and won’t be retained. The Type would be r : “Three-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object. Models, dioramas, games, puzzles, simulations, sculptures and other three-dimensional art works, exhibits, machines, clothing, toys, and stitchery.” See http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/type.shtm and http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html Call numbers are up to individual libraries in PINES and are dependent on the needs of their patrons and the library staff. So we see a wide variation in how equipment and realia are classified. Some use AV, some are specific – 16MM projector, some are just EQUIPMENT. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Trisha Cantwell Keene Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:57 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
I meant to add the link to the mods site and forgot -- thanks for adding it. I wasn't sure about locally assigned call numbers. 690s and 590s don't appear to be indexed for keyword search by default so I didn't know if any local fields were. PINES has a mixture of MODS and MARC tag indexing, which works pretty well. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Mike Rylander Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:42 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Trisha, Sorry I havent responded sooner. Call numbers in standard fields (050, 082, etc), with some caveats, are indexed by default as keyword searches. I dont know for sure that an 099 or 090, for example, would be indexed. 082s with a 2nd indicator of 4 are not indexed as keyword searches and 050 2nd indicator 4 are probably also not keyword indexed (were Dewey so I havent confirmed how LCC functions in Evergreen). But you might be able index them for your setup. There is also the call number browse in the quick search if is the only one of the quick searches that can be filtered by owning library. To provide some background on why the above is true (also, for clarification, the 099 is indexed in the identifier|bibcn field by default), the keyword|keyword index is defined as everything but origin information (publisher, publishing location) that exists in the MODS3.2 transformation of the MARCXML. That's embodied in the following XPath: //mods32:mods/*[not(local-name()='originInfo')] The canonical definition of that is documented here: http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/v3/mods-mapping-3-2.html Of course, that is just the default out-of-the-box indexing definition for general keywords. That is entirely site-configurable, and you can add additional keyword index definitions, or replace the stock one with your own. And, note that they don't have to depend on MODS transformations, they can work with the MARC directly. Hope that helps, -- Mike Rylander | Director of Research and Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: mi...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Trisha Cantwell Keene Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:57 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment Elaine, Thanks so much for your info! My other question is how does Evergreen handle indexing of the call number assigned - the ultimate question being how easily are those records found by patrons when they search. Does Evergreen index the call numbers so a keyword search can be done? Thanks!! Trisha On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: PINES catalogers catalog equipment for circulation frequently. However, we do our original cataloging on OCLC and bring the record into PINES. We dont catalog directly into PINES unless the item is ephemeral in nature and wont be retained. The Type would be r : Three-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object. Models, dioramas, games, puzzles, simulations, sculptures and other three-dimensional art works, exhibits, machines, clothing, toys, and stitchery. See http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/type.shtm and http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html Call numbers are up to individual libraries in PINES and are dependent on the needs of their patrons and the library staff. So we see a wide variation in how equipment and realia are classified. Some use AV, some are specific 16MM projector, some are just EQUIPMENT. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
Elaine, Thanks so much for your info! My other question is how does Evergreen handle indexing of the call number assigned - the ultimate question being how easily are those records found by patrons when they search. Does Evergreen index the call numbers so a keyword search can be done? Thanks!! Trisha On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.orgwrote: PINES catalogers catalog equipment for circulation frequently. However, we do our original cataloging on OCLC and bring the record into PINES. We don’t catalog directly into PINES unless the item is ephemeral in nature and won’t be retained. ** ** The Type would be r : “Three-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object. Models, dioramas, games, puzzles, simulations, sculptures and other three-dimensional art works, exhibits, machines, clothing, toys, and stitchery.” See http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/type.shtmand http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html ** ** Call numbers are up to individual libraries in PINES and are dependent on the needs of their patrons and the library staff. So we see a wide variation in how equipment and realia are classified. Some use AV, some are specific – 16MM projector, some are just EQUIPMENT. ** ** ** ** Elaine ** ** J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax ** ** eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ ** ** *From:* open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Trisha Cantwell Keene *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2012 10:57 AM *To:* open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment ** ** Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London) ** ** -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London)
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
Hi Trisha, You can create a MARC record for just about anything. We added one really basic one for a bike pump that we sign out (we are by the bike racks at our school). If all the AV stuff lives together, I'd create a shelving location for them, so you can filter on that or do a search on that shelving location. As for type--I'm not sure. I would guess either z - unspecified ( http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd007.html). For the bike pump record I just left that blank. Hope that helps, Tara On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Trisha Cantwell Keene tcantw...@coa.eduwrote: Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
A number of libraries in Evergreen Indiana circulate audio-visual equipment of various types: DVD players, projectors, e-readers, etc. Some of the records are well done and very descriptive, others are much more brief. As for type, they should be coded as Type r as they are three dimensional objects/artifacts/machines. I think that Tara's suggestion of grouping them in the same shelving location is a good one, as well as your own thought of making them browsable via call number. You could also use a note (something like Thorndike Library audio-visual collection or what have you)so that they would all come up under a keyword search. Sarah Childs Senior Cataloger Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:57:07 -0400 From: Trisha Cantwell Keene tcantw...@coa.edu Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: caajgy8pkzfc+r3n-xnbcefqqu-dutoyequrqqava3kc3+hc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20120514/c59a722d/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:33:50 -0700 From: Tara Robertson information.detect...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: CALPJNUndJ=FUHDNwErpwf=ettapfk9kvy7819k_1ko-felc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Trisha, You can create a MARC record for just about anything. We added one really basic one for a bike pump that we sign out (we are by the bike racks at our school). If all the AV stuff lives together, I'd create a shelving location for them, so you can filter on that or do a search on that shelving location. As for type--I'm not sure. I would guess either z - unspecified ( http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd007.html). For the bike pump record I just left that blank. Hope that helps, Tara On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Trisha Cantwell Keene tcantw...@coa.eduwrote: Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20120514/79bb85d3/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:45:56 -0400 From: Paul Hoffman p...@flo.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Here we grow again!Link checker functionality in Evergreen To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: 20120514154556.GE80405@phisen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I had written: *please* let's not develop an *integrated* link checker for Evergreen at all On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:17:21PM -0400, Duimovich, George wrote: Disagree -- there's no reason why link checker code couldn't be developed to be used (or easily adapted) to service both general purpose roles as well as integrated Staff Client functionality. What do you do for libraries who don't have direct server or easy database access? How else can cataloguers be empowered to service link errors, especially as we move towards increasing digital collections
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment
PINES catalogers catalog equipment for circulation frequently. However, we do our original cataloging on OCLC and bring the record into PINES. We don't catalog directly into PINES unless the item is ephemeral in nature and won't be retained. The Type would be r : Three-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object. Models, dioramas, games, puzzles, simulations, sculptures and other three-dimensional art works, exhibits, machines, clothing, toys, and stitchery. See http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/type.shtm and http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html Call numbers are up to individual libraries in PINES and are dependent on the needs of their patrons and the library staff. So we see a wide variation in how equipment and realia are classified. Some use AV, some are specific - 16MM projector, some are just EQUIPMENT. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects and Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service, A Unit of the University System of Georgia 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org eha...@georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/ www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines/ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Trisha Cantwell Keene Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:57 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cataloging Audio Visual equipment Is anyone cataloging and circulating audio visual equipment with Evergreen? If so, would you share what you are using for a fixed field 'type'? We are interested in putting these records in the first time ( ;D) in such a way that our patrons will have a filter or an easy way to locate all the AV equipment in the catalog. How will they be able to search just for AV? By call number, call number prefix. Thanks for all suggestions etc. Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London)