Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Terran McCanna]

Thanks, Bob!

My assumption is that the Perl code is still running the old way to pull in
the images and to determine whether or not to load the section that the
added content appears in, so that could be cleaned up to eliminate a lot of
unnecessary work that it is doing.

Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org

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On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Bob Wicksall 
wrote:

> Hi Terran,
>
> I setup Syndetics for Lindsay so here is what I changed:
>
> For the cover art:
> /openils/conf/opensrf.xml under 
>
> user provided by syndetics
> https://secure.syndetics.com/index.aspx
>
>
> For the integration on the record details page I just added the following
> to /opac/parts/record/addedcontent.tt2
>
> https://unbound.syndetics.com/syndeticsunbound/connector/</a>
> initiator.php?a_id=402" type="text/javascript">
>
> 
>
>
> I was actually kind of surprised that the covers just worked after
> tweaking the base_url and userid.
>
> Bob Wicksall
> Computer and Network Services Manager
>
> Pioneer Library System
> 2557 State Rt. 21
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rt.+21+Canandaigua,+New+York++14424=gmail=g>
> Canandaigua, New York
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rt.+21+Canandaigua,+New+York++14424=gmail=g>
>  14424
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rt.+21+Canandaigua,+New+York++14424=gmail=g>
>
> Voice: (585) 394-8260 ext. 110
> Fax: (585) 394-1935
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Terran McCanna" 
> *To: *"Evergreen Discussion Group"  georgialibraries.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 12, 2018 10:41:16 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing
> SyndeticsUnbound?
>
> Looks great, thanks Lindsay!
>
> What did you need to do on the Evergreen sign to implement it?
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
> * The GPLS office is in the midst of relocating so it may be difficult to
> reach us by phone at times. Please use the Help Desk when you need to
> contact us: https://help.georgialibraries.org
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Lindsay Stratton 
> wrote:
>
>> We are currently testing Syndetics Unbound, and probably going to go live
>> with it Jan 2019. Implementation was no problem, our current test is pretty
>> much out of the box. We will probably tweak the display a bit eventually.
>>
>> Here's a link to - http://evergreendev.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/440908.
>> Syndetics Unbound content under Summaries & More, Novelist content under
>> Reviews, Series & Suggested Reads.
>>
>> We have not noticed any issues with cover images, and were pleased to
>> find Unbound now gives a nice "no cover image" image.
>>
>> Lindsay Stratton
>> Library Automation Services Manager
>> Pioneer Library System
>> 2557 State Rte 21
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rte+21++Canandaigua,+NY+14424=gmail=g>
>> Canandaigua, NY 14424
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rte+21++Canandaigua,+NY+14424=gmail=g>
>> 585-394-8260 x104
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Jessica Woolford" 
>> *To: *"Evergreen Discussion Group" > georgialibraries.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:21:43 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing
>> SyndeticsUnbound?
>>
>> Thanks, Terran! This looks good!
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Terran McCanna <
>> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, until Syndetics Unbound works with Evergreen and we move to that, I
>>> decided to workaround the problems we were encountering with the display of
>>> Syndetics Classic content by modifying the tt2 files. I've changed the
>>> display to an in-screen modal pop-up that shows all the available Syndetics
>>> content (whether or not the perlmod looks for it). It's not perfect, but it
>>> uses Syndetics' own provided layout rather than trying to pull in the
>>> content they provide as plain text, and doesn't rely on doing lookups for
>>> every possible type of review.
>>>
>>> You can see how it works at http://gapines.org/eg/opac/
>>> record/2158551

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Bob Wicksall]

Hi Terran, 

I setup Syndetics for Lindsay so here is what I changed: 

For the cover art: 
/openils/conf/opensrf.xml under  

user provided by syndetics 
https://secure.syndetics.com/index.aspx 

For the integration on the record details page I just added the following to 
/opac/parts/record/addedcontent.tt2 

https://unbound.syndetics.com/syndeticsunbound/connector/initiator.php?a_id=402&quot</a>;
 type="text/javascript"> 

 

I was actually kind of surprised that the covers just worked after tweaking the 
base_url and userid. 

Bob Wicksall 
Computer and Network Services Manager 

Pioneer Library System 
2557 State Rt. 21 
Canandaigua, New York 14424 

Voice: (585) 394-8260 ext. 110 
Fax: (585) 394-1935 

> From: "Terran McCanna" 
> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 10:41:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics
> Unbound?

> Looks great, thanks Lindsay!

> What did you need to do on the Evergreen sign to implement it?

> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> [ mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org ]

> * The GPLS office is in the midst of relocating so it may be difficult to 
> reach
> us by phone at times. Please use the Help Desk when you need to contact us: [
> https://help.georgialibraries.org/ | https://help.georgialibraries.org ]

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Lindsay Stratton < [
> mailto:lstrat...@pls-net.org | lstrat...@pls-net.org ] > wrote:

>> We are currently testing Syndetics Unbound, and probably going to go live 
>> with
>> it Jan 2019. Implementation was no problem, our current test is pretty much 
>> out
>> of the box. We will probably tweak the display a bit eventually.

>> Here's a link to - [ http://evergreendev.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/440908 |
>> http://evergreendev.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/440908 ] . Syndetics Unbound
>> content under Summaries & More, Novelist content under Reviews, Series &
>> Suggested Reads.

>> We have not noticed any issues with cover images, and were pleased to find
>> Unbound now gives a nice "no cover image" image.

>> Lindsay Stratton
>> Library Automation Services Manager
>> Pioneer Library System
>> [
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rte+21++Canandaigua,+NY+14424=gmail=g
>> | 2557 State Rte 21  ]
>> [
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rte+21++Canandaigua,+NY+14424=gmail=g
>> | Canandaigua, NY 14424 ]
>> 585-394-8260 x104

>>> From: "Jessica Woolford" < [ mailto:jwoolf...@biblio.org | 
>>> jwoolf...@biblio.org
>>> ] >
>>> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" < [
>>> mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org |
>>> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org ] >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:21:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics
>>> Unbound?

>>> Thanks, Terran! This looks good!

>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Terran McCanna < [
>>> mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org ] > 
>>> wrote:

>>>> FYI, until Syndetics Unbound works with Evergreen and we move to that, I 
>>>> decided
>>>> to workaround the problems we were encountering with the display of 
>>>> Syndetics
>>>> Classic content by modifying the tt2 files. I've changed the display to an
>>>> in-screen modal pop-up that shows all the available Syndetics content 
>>>> (whether
>>>> or not the perlmod looks for it). It's not perfect, but it uses Syndetics' 
>>>> own
>>>> provided layout rather than trying to pull in the content they provide as 
>>>> plain
>>>> text, and doesn't rely on doing lookups for every possible type of review.

>>>> You can see how it works at [ 
>>>> http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/2158551?locg=1 |
>>>> http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/2158551?locg=1 ] (click on the "See 
>>>> Summary,
>>>> Reviews, and More from Syndetics" button towards the bottom of the page 
>>>> below
>>>> the NoveList added content).

>>>> And the code is here if anyone else wants to do something like it (or 
>>>> improve
>>>> upon it) as a local customization:
>>>> [
>>>> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/pines.git;a=commit;h=aa4422c78bec5fce371ef5db4ab552be3d1498d0
>>>> |
>>>> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/pines.g

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Terran McCanna]

Looks great, thanks Lindsay!

What did you need to do on the Evergreen sign to implement it?

Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org

* The GPLS office is in the midst of relocating so it may be difficult to
reach us by phone at times. Please use the Help Desk when you need to
contact us: https://help.georgialibraries.org


On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Lindsay Stratton 
wrote:

> We are currently testing Syndetics Unbound, and probably going to go live
> with it Jan 2019. Implementation was no problem, our current test is pretty
> much out of the box. We will probably tweak the display a bit eventually.
>
> Here's a link to - http://evergreendev.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/440908.
> Syndetics Unbound content under Summaries & More, Novelist content under
> Reviews, Series & Suggested Reads.
>
> We have not noticed any issues with cover images, and were pleased to find
> Unbound now gives a nice "no cover image" image.
>
> Lindsay Stratton
> Library Automation Services Manager
> Pioneer Library System
> 2557 State Rte 21
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rte+21++Canandaigua,+NY+14424=gmail=g>
> Canandaigua, NY 14424
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2557+State+Rte+21++Canandaigua,+NY+14424=gmail=g>
> 585-394-8260 x104
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jessica Woolford" 
> *To: *"Evergreen Discussion Group"  georgialibraries.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:21:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing
> SyndeticsUnbound?
>
> Thanks, Terran! This looks good!
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Terran McCanna <
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>
>> FYI, until Syndetics Unbound works with Evergreen and we move to that, I
>> decided to workaround the problems we were encountering with the display of
>> Syndetics Classic content by modifying the tt2 files. I've changed the
>> display to an in-screen modal pop-up that shows all the available Syndetics
>> content (whether or not the perlmod looks for it). It's not perfect, but it
>> uses Syndetics' own provided layout rather than trying to pull in the
>> content they provide as plain text, and doesn't rely on doing lookups for
>> every possible type of review.
>>
>> You can see how it works at http://gapines.org/eg/opac/
>> record/2158551?locg=1 (click on the "See Summary, Reviews, and More from
>> Syndetics" button towards the bottom of the page below the NoveList added
>> content).
>>
>> And the code is here if anyone else wants to do something like it (or
>> improve upon it) as a local customization:
>> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/pines.git;a=commit;h=
>> aa4422c78bec5fce371ef5db4ab552be3d1498d0
>>
>> Note that my change exposes the library-specific Syndetics id in the URL,
>> but I talked with Syndetics about it and reviewed their documentation and
>> that's exactly what they expect to happen, so it's not an issue as far as
>> they are concerned.
>>
>> I had originally tried modifying the Perl code to just do a single
>> Syndetics call to check for summary data rather than doing multiple calls
>> for all different types of data, but I was encountering problems with it
>> giving me false negatives (saying there wasn't data when there was) and
>> triggering the code that temporarily disable added content lookups and
>> finally decided I had better things to do with my time than argue with old
>> code, especially since I assume it will all need to be rewritten to
>> accommodate Syndetics Unbound in the not too distant future anyway.
>>
>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Suite+150++Atlanta,+GA+30345=gmail=g>
>> Atlanta, GA 30345
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Suite+150++Atlanta,+GA+30345=gmail=g>
>> 404-235-7138
>> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Lindsay Stratton > > wrote:
>>
>>> Well, at least their sales message is consistent!
>>>
>>> FWIW, because maybe they use the same title for their mock-up?, this is
>>> a link to our current catalog for Raven Boys -
>>> http://evergreen.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/442294.
>>>
>>> The Syndetics Classic content we subscribe to displays under the
>>> "Summaries and more" tab. It's OK, but not as nice as the fancy Unbound
>>> stuff. Although

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Lindsay Stratton]

We are currently testing Syndetics Unbound, and probably going to go live with 
it Jan 2019. Implementation was no problem, our current test is pretty much out 
of the box. We will probably tweak the display a bit eventually. 

Here's a link to - [ http://evergreendev.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/440908 | 
http://evergreendev.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/440908 ] . Syndetics Unbound 
content under Summaries & More, Novelist content under Reviews, Series & 
Suggested Reads. 

We have not noticed any issues with cover images, and were pleased to find 
Unbound now gives a nice "no cover image" image. 

Lindsay Stratton 
Library Automation Services Manager 
Pioneer Library System 
2557 State Rte 21 
Canandaigua, NY 14424 
585-394-8260 x104 

> From: "Jessica Woolford" 
> To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:21:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics
> Unbound?

> Thanks, Terran! This looks good!

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Terran McCanna < [
> mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org ] > 
> wrote:

>> FYI, until Syndetics Unbound works with Evergreen and we move to that, I 
>> decided
>> to workaround the problems we were encountering with the display of Syndetics
>> Classic content by modifying the tt2 files. I've changed the display to an
>> in-screen modal pop-up that shows all the available Syndetics content 
>> (whether
>> or not the perlmod looks for it). It's not perfect, but it uses Syndetics' 
>> own
>> provided layout rather than trying to pull in the content they provide as 
>> plain
>> text, and doesn't rely on doing lookups for every possible type of review.

>> You can see how it works at [ 
>> http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/2158551?locg=1 |
>> http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/2158551?locg=1 ] (click on the "See 
>> Summary,
>> Reviews, and More from Syndetics" button towards the bottom of the page below
>> the NoveList added content).

>> And the code is here if anyone else wants to do something like it (or improve
>> upon it) as a local customization:
>> [
>> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/pines.git;a=commit;h=aa4422c78bec5fce371ef5db4ab552be3d1498d0
>> |
>> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/pines.git;a=commit;h=aa4422c78bec5fce371ef5db4ab552be3d1498d0
>> ]

>> Note that my change exposes the library-specific Syndetics id in the URL, 
>> but I
>> talked with Syndetics about it and reviewed their documentation and that's
>> exactly what they expect to happen, so it's not an issue as far as they are
>> concerned.

>> I had originally tried modifying the Perl code to just do a single Syndetics
>> call to check for summary data rather than doing multiple calls for all
>> different types of data, but I was encountering problems with it giving me
>> false negatives (saying there wasn't data when there was) and triggering the
>> code that temporarily disable added content lookups and finally decided I had
>> better things to do with my time than argue with old code, especially since I
>> assume it will all need to be rewritten to accommodate Syndetics Unbound in 
>> the
>> not too distant future anyway.

>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>> [
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Suite+150++Atlanta,+GA+30345=gmail=g
>> | 1800 Century Place, Suite 150  ]
>> [
>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1800+Century+Place,+Suite+150++Atlanta,+GA+30345=gmail=g
>> | Atlanta, GA 30345 ]
>> 404-235-7138
>> [ mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org ]

>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Lindsay Stratton < [
>> mailto:lstrat...@pls-net.org | lstrat...@pls-net.org ] > wrote:

>>> Well, at least their sales message is consistent!

>>> FWIW, because maybe they use the same title for their mock-up?, this is a 
>>> link
>>> to our current catalog for Raven Boys - [
>>> http://evergreen.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/442294 |
>>> http://evergreen.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/442294 ] .

>>> The Syndetics Classic content we subscribe to displays under the "Summaries 
>>> and
>>> more" tab. It's OK, but not as nice as the fancy Unbound stuff. Although I 
>>> do
>>> notice that we, although we are apparently paying for it, do not have the
>>> Professional Reviews... I wonder if that is related to the display issues
>>> Terran found.

>>> Our Novelist content displays under the "Reviews, Series & Suggest

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Jessica Woolford]

Thanks, Terran! This looks good!

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Terran McCanna <
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> FYI, until Syndetics Unbound works with Evergreen and we move to that, I
> decided to workaround the problems we were encountering with the display of
> Syndetics Classic content by modifying the tt2 files. I've changed the
> display to an in-screen modal pop-up that shows all the available Syndetics
> content (whether or not the perlmod looks for it). It's not perfect, but it
> uses Syndetics' own provided layout rather than trying to pull in the
> content they provide as plain text, and doesn't rely on doing lookups for
> every possible type of review.
>
> You can see how it works at http://gapines.org/eg/opac/
> record/2158551?locg=1 (click on the "See Summary, Reviews, and More from
> Syndetics" button towards the bottom of the page below the NoveList added
> content).
>
> And the code is here if anyone else wants to do something like it (or
> improve upon it) as a local customization:
> http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/pines.git;a=commit
> ;h=aa4422c78bec5fce371ef5db4ab552be3d1498d0
>
> Note that my change exposes the library-specific Syndetics id in the URL,
> but I talked with Syndetics about it and reviewed their documentation and
> that's exactly what they expect to happen, so it's not an issue as far as
> they are concerned.
>
> I had originally tried modifying the Perl code to just do a single
> Syndetics call to check for summary data rather than doing multiple calls
> for all different types of data, but I was encountering problems with it
> giving me false negatives (saying there wasn't data when there was) and
> triggering the code that temporarily disable added content lookups and
> finally decided I had better things to do with my time than argue with old
> code, especially since I assume it will all need to be rewritten to
> accommodate Syndetics Unbound in the not too distant future anyway.
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> 
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Lindsay Stratton 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, at least their sales message is consistent!
>>
>> FWIW, because maybe they use the same title for their mock-up?, this is a
>> link to our current catalog for Raven Boys - http://evergreen.owwl.org/eg
>> /opac/record/442294.
>>
>> The Syndetics Classic content we subscribe to displays under the
>> "Summaries and more" tab. It's OK, but not as nice as the fancy Unbound
>> stuff. Although I do notice that we, although we are apparently paying for
>> it, do not have the Professional Reviews... I wonder if that is related to
>> the display issues Terran found.
>>
>> Our Novelist content displays under the "Reviews, Series & Suggest Reads"
>> tab. We are kind of assuming that Unbound content would function similarly.
>>
>> Our main concern is the configuration and display of cover images. We are
>> using the Syndetics Classic API to manage that, and worry that the way
>> Evergreen processes cover images will not play nicely with whatever process
>> Unbound uses.
>>
>> Lindsay
>>
>> Lindsay Stratton
>> Library Automation Services Manager
>> Pioneer Library System
>> 2557 State Rte 21
>> 
>> Canandaigua, NY 14424
>> 
>> 585-394-8260 x104
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>


-- 
Jessica Woolford
Evergreen Systems Manager
Bibliomation, Inc.
24 Wooster Ave.
Waterbury, CT 06708
203-577-4070 ext. 105

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Terran McCanna]

FYI, until Syndetics Unbound works with Evergreen and we move to that, I
decided to workaround the problems we were encountering with the display of
Syndetics Classic content by modifying the tt2 files. I've changed the
display to an in-screen modal pop-up that shows all the available Syndetics
content (whether or not the perlmod looks for it). It's not perfect, but it
uses Syndetics' own provided layout rather than trying to pull in the
content they provide as plain text, and doesn't rely on doing lookups for
every possible type of review.

You can see how it works at http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/2158551?locg=1
(click on the "See Summary, Reviews, and More from Syndetics" button
towards the bottom of the page below the NoveList added content).

And the code is here if anyone else wants to do something like it (or
improve upon it) as a local customization:
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/pines.git;a=commit;h=
aa4422c78bec5fce371ef5db4ab552be3d1498d0

Note that my change exposes the library-specific Syndetics id in the URL,
but I talked with Syndetics about it and reviewed their documentation and
that's exactly what they expect to happen, so it's not an issue as far as
they are concerned.

I had originally tried modifying the Perl code to just do a single
Syndetics call to check for summary data rather than doing multiple calls
for all different types of data, but I was encountering problems with it
giving me false negatives (saying there wasn't data when there was) and
triggering the code that temporarily disable added content lookups and
finally decided I had better things to do with my time than argue with old
code, especially since I assume it will all need to be rewritten to
accommodate Syndetics Unbound in the not too distant future anyway.

Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Lindsay Stratton 
wrote:

> Well, at least their sales message is consistent!
>
> FWIW, because maybe they use the same title for their mock-up?, this is a
> link to our current catalog for Raven Boys - http://evergreen.owwl.org/eg
> /opac/record/442294.
>
> The Syndetics Classic content we subscribe to displays under the
> "Summaries and more" tab. It's OK, but not as nice as the fancy Unbound
> stuff. Although I do notice that we, although we are apparently paying for
> it, do not have the Professional Reviews... I wonder if that is related to
> the display issues Terran found.
>
> Our Novelist content displays under the "Reviews, Series & Suggest Reads"
> tab. We are kind of assuming that Unbound content would function similarly.
>
> Our main concern is the configuration and display of cover images. We are
> using the Syndetics Classic API to manage that, and worry that the way
> Evergreen processes cover images will not play nicely with whatever process
> Unbound uses.
>
> Lindsay
>
> Lindsay Stratton
> Library Automation Services Manager
> Pioneer Library System
> 2557 State Rte 21
> 
> Canandaigua, NY 14424
> 
> 585-394-8260 x104
>
>
> --
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Terran McCanna]

>> The Syndetics Classic content we subscribe to displays under the
"Summaries and more" tab. It's OK, but not as nice as the fancy Unbound
stuff. Although I do notice that we, although we are apparently paying for
it, do not have the Professional Reviews... I wonder if that is related to
the display issues Terran found. <<

Yes - if we implement Syndetics Classic the way they intend for it to be
implemented, it will appear in a popup like the one screen-capped here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iHPL-hUcHSfBbk-vbDbb1i2rJNC9e27b/view?usp=sharing

Then, instead of Evergreen needing to go check for each possible type of
content and possible review and then screen-scrape or parse the content
out, it only checks to see if the main summary page is available and
displays that, and Syndetics takes care of the rest.

Alternatively, instead of a screencap, it could be displayed in an iframe
or something like that. I prefer the pop-up.




Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Lindsay Stratton 
wrote:

> Well, at least their sales message is consistent!
>
> FWIW, because maybe they use the same title for their mock-up?, this is a
> link to our current catalog for Raven Boys - http://evergreen.owwl.org/
> eg/opac/record/442294.
>
> The Syndetics Classic content we subscribe to displays under the
> "Summaries and more" tab. It's OK, but not as nice as the fancy Unbound
> stuff. Although I do notice that we, although we are apparently paying for
> it, do not have the Professional Reviews... I wonder if that is related to
> the display issues Terran found.
>
> Our Novelist content displays under the "Reviews, Series & Suggest Reads"
> tab. We are kind of assuming that Unbound content would function similarly.
>
> Our main concern is the configuration and display of cover images. We are
> using the Syndetics Classic API to manage that, and worry that the way
> Evergreen processes cover images will not play nicely with whatever process
> Unbound uses.
>
> Lindsay
>
> Lindsay Stratton
> Library Automation Services Manager
> Pioneer Library System
> 2557 State Rte 21
> 
> Canandaigua, NY 14424
> 
> 585-394-8260 x104 <(585)%20394-8260>
>
>
> --
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Lindsay Stratton]

Well, at least their sales message is consistent! 

FWIW, because maybe they use the same title for their mock-up?, this is a link 
to our current catalog for Raven Boys - 
http://evergreen.owwl.org/eg/opac/record/442294. 

The Syndetics Classic content we subscribe to displays under the "Summaries and 
more" tab. It's OK, but not as nice as the fancy Unbound stuff. Although I do 
notice that we, although we are apparently paying for it, do not have the 
Professional Reviews... I wonder if that is related to the display issues 
Terran found. 

Our Novelist content displays under the "Reviews, Series & Suggest Reads" tab. 
We are kind of assuming that Unbound content would function similarly. 

Our main concern is the configuration and display of cover images. We are using 
the Syndetics Classic API to manage that, and worry that the way Evergreen 
processes cover images will not play nicely with whatever process Unbound uses. 

Lindsay 

Lindsay Stratton 
Library Automation Services Manager 
Pioneer Library System 
2557 State Rte 21 
Canandaigua, NY 14424 
585-394-8260 x104 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Terran McCanna]

Also, I suspect a small bit of development will need to be done to
Evergreen to get Syndetics Unbound to work. It looks like it will behave
more like the NoveList added content does, which is implemented quite
differently than Syndetics Classic is implemented.


Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 11:01 PM Terran McCanna <tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>
wrote:

> Holly - We have Syndetics Classic too, but it stopped working for us. It's
> curious that yours is still functional. Once I started troubleshooting why
> ours wasn't working, I found that Evergreen isn't displaying it as
> Syndetics means it to be displayed at this time.
>
> I'm working on an a different approach that will reduce the amount of work
> that Evergreen has to do and that will present the content more
> attractively. I'll let you know when I have it on a public server so you
> can take a look.
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 9:15 PM Holly Brennan <haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us>
> wrote:
>
>> Lindsay, I was going to shoot this question off to the list, too! We’re
>> using Syndetics Classic, but I’m researching Unbound.
>>
>>
>>
>> I received the same from Syndetics (“At this time we don't have a LIVE
>> site available that shows an Evergreen ILS…”)  The “demo” (just a
>> screenshot-style mock-up) looks awesome, but I’m suspicious if that’s how
>> it will really render because Classic doesn’t act that way in the catalog.
>> As soon as I get down to that importance level in my To Do list I’ll follow
>> up with our rep again and share what I find out.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Holly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Holly Brennan
>>
>> Technology Specialist
>>
>> Homer Public Library
>>
>> Homer, Alaska
>>
>>
>>
>> hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov
>>
>> 907-435-3154 (direct)
>>
>> 907-235-3180 (main desk)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
>> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Lindsay
>> Stratton
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:43 AM
>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
>> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing
>> Syndetics Unbound?
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning every one,
>>
>>
>>
>> Are any libraries using Syndetics new service, Unbound? According to our
>> rep, no Evergreen site is "LIVE" (his caps), which maybe means somebody is
>> testing it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Lindsay
>>
>>
>>
>> *Lindsay Stratton *
>> Library Automation Services Manager
>> Pioneer Library System
>> 2557 State Rte 21
>> Canandaigua, NY 14424
>> 585-394-8260 x104
>>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Terran McCanna]

Holly - We have Syndetics Classic too, but it stopped working for us. It's
curious that yours is still functional. Once I started troubleshooting why
ours wasn't working, I found that Evergreen isn't displaying it as
Syndetics means it to be displayed at this time.

I'm working on an a different approach that will reduce the amount of work
that Evergreen has to do and that will present the content more
attractively. I'll let you know when I have it on a public server so you
can take a look.

Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 9:15 PM Holly Brennan <haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us>
wrote:

> Lindsay, I was going to shoot this question off to the list, too! We’re
> using Syndetics Classic, but I’m researching Unbound.
>
>
>
> I received the same from Syndetics (“At this time we don't have a LIVE
> site available that shows an Evergreen ILS…”)  The “demo” (just a
> screenshot-style mock-up) looks awesome, but I’m suspicious if that’s how
> it will really render because Classic doesn’t act that way in the catalog.
> As soon as I get down to that importance level in my To Do list I’ll follow
> up with our rep again and share what I find out.
>
>
>
> -Holly
>
>
>
>
>
> Holly Brennan
>
> Technology Specialist
>
> Homer Public Library
>
> Homer, Alaska
>
>
>
> hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov
>
> 907-435-3154 (direct)
>
> 907-235-3180 (main desk)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Lindsay
> Stratton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:43 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics
> Unbound?
>
>
>
> Good morning every one,
>
>
>
> Are any libraries using Syndetics new service, Unbound? According to our
> rep, no Evergreen site is "LIVE" (his caps), which maybe means somebody is
> testing it?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Lindsay
>
>
>
> *Lindsay Stratton *
> Library Automation Services Manager
> Pioneer Library System
> 2557 State Rte 21
> Canandaigua, NY 14424
> 585-394-8260 x104
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Holly Brennan]

Lindsay, I was going to shoot this question off to the list, too! We’re using 
Syndetics Classic, but I’m researching Unbound.

I received the same from Syndetics (“At this time we don't have a LIVE site 
available that shows an Evergreen ILS…”)  The “demo” (just a screenshot-style 
mock-up) looks awesome, but I’m suspicious if that’s how it will really render 
because Classic doesn’t act that way in the catalog. As soon as I get down to 
that importance level in my To Do list I’ll follow up with our rep again and 
share what I find out.

-Holly


Holly Brennan
Technology Specialist
Homer Public Library
Homer, Alaska

hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov
907-435-3154 (direct)
907-235-3180 (main desk)




From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Lindsay Stratton
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:43 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

Good morning every one,

Are any libraries using Syndetics new service, Unbound? According to our rep, 
no Evergreen site is "LIVE" (his caps), which maybe means somebody is testing 
it?

Thanks!

Lindsay

Lindsay Stratton
Library Automation Services Manager
Pioneer Library System
2557 State Rte 21
Canandaigua, NY 14424
585-394-8260 x104

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen libraries using/testing Syndetics Unbound?

[Lindsay Stratton]

Good morning every one, 

Are any libraries using Syndetics new service, Unbound? According to our rep, 
no Evergreen site is "LIVE" (his caps), which maybe means somebody is testing 
it? 

Thanks! 

Lindsay 

Lindsay Stratton 
Library Automation Services Manager 
Pioneer Library System 
2557 State Rte 21 
Canandaigua, NY 14424 
585-394-8260 x104