Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Hi Bob, As one of the website folks, I'll take a look at updating the KML files on the Evergreen website to include information for your libraries. I've been meaning to try doing more work on those files anyways. Will try to resolve as soon as possible. -- Ben On 6/7/12 9:59 AM, Bob Neeper wrote: Would someone extract the pertinent info from the attached kml file and add it to the 2 kml's on the Evergreen site at: http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries Also add COOL Ohio to the United States list. Thanks, Bob R. W. (Bob) Neeper Community Library 44 Burrer Dr. Sunbury, Oh 43074 Tel: (740)-965-3901 -- Benjamin Shum Open Source Software Coordinator Bibliomation, Inc. 32 Crest Road Middlebury, CT 06762 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
I just noticed there is a spot on the map for North Texas Regional Library System, they are not using Evergreen and can be removed. It was likely a case of mistaken identity with our group. Thanks, Geoff Sams Roanoke Public Library 817-491-2691 Chairman North Texas Library Consortium Board -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:01 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Hi Tony, On 2012-05-09, at 11:29 AM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? How Cool! ;) We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Added a place mark for COOL with the description you provided. I think the KML file will get fleshed out with specific branch locations as a next step in this mapping adventure. But for now, at least, this quick'n'easy map can do the trick. If there are other consortia or standalones that folks don't see on the map, let me know! Cheers Ben Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ben Hyman ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop wrote: On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
This is a good idea. In the very short term, would anybody who has a copy of the KML file be willing to (say) upload it to the wiki? I've pushed what I have here: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen_Website.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/phasefx/maps -- Jason Etheridge | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com | Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Thanks Ben! :) Mary -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 11:15 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ben Hyman ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coopwrote: On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Hi Tony, On 2012-05-09, at 11:29 AM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? How Cool! ;) We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Added a place mark for COOL with the description you provided. I think the KML file will get fleshed out with specific branch locations as a next step in this mapping adventure. But for now, at least, this quick'n'easy map can do the trick. If there are other consortia or standalones that folks don't see on the map, let me know! Cheers Ben Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ben Hyman ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop wrote: On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Dan - so sagacious. Bob too. Love the proposed approach to map updating you've laid out here Dan. bh On 2012-05-09, at 11:53 AM, Dan Scott wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 02:29:43PM -0400, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 I don't think it's too much email yet :) There are probably a couple of things we want to address in the near future... 1) Process for adding Evergreen libraries to the map. Maybe updating http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries could / should be step one (only a wiki account is required!), but we don't have coordinates there currently, just a rough location field. Then perhaps map updaters could follow the revisions to that page and update a centralized KML file accordingly. In passing, I will also note that a lot of the info appears to be out of date on that wiki page - for example, Conifer has about twice as many libraries and is running on much newer versions of the software than is listed; maybe we can tie updating this info into conference registration, or something like that, so at least there's a chance that it will be updated on an annual basis. 2) Handling consortia vs. individual libraries. Do we want to try to plot each library in a given consortia on the map, or just one entry for a given consortia? I think I would prefer to see one entry per library, as the full might of PINES' nearly 300 libraries would stand out, or Conifer's 1000km stretch from Windsor to Thunder Bay. 3) Canonical location for the map data; Jason Etheridge has uploaded a copy of Bob Molyneux's KML file to the Evergreen Website git repository (but maybe the random evergreen repo would be a better spot on a going-forward basis? but then again git is a significant hurdle for many), I suspect Ben is currently editing his copy live for now, Jeff Godin thought maybe an online spreadsheet would be easier for people to contribute to, there's also the possibility of adding coordinates to the wiki page... It's such a deceptively simple project, with a strong emphasis on deceipt. Many thanks in retrospect to all of Bob Molyneux's effort in having kept this up to date in the past!
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
2) Handling consortia vs. individual libraries. Do we want to try to plot each library in a given consortia on the map, or just one entry for a given consortia? I think I would prefer to see one entry per library, as the full might of PINES' nearly 300 libraries would stand out, or Conifer's 1000km stretch from Windsor to Thunder Bay. I vote for one entry per library on the map. I think it would be a truer reflection of who is using Evergreen. Kathy -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 756-0172 (508) 755-3721 (fax) kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier On 5/9/2012 2:53 PM, Dan Scott wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 02:29:43PM -0400, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 I don't think it's too much email yet :) There are probably a couple of things we want to address in the near future... 1) Process for adding Evergreen libraries to the map. Maybe updating http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries could / should be step one (only a wiki account is required!), but we don't have coordinates there currently, just a rough location field. Then perhaps map updaters could follow the revisions to that page and update a centralized KML file accordingly. In passing, I will also note that a lot of the info appears to be out of date on that wiki page - for example, Conifer has about twice as many libraries and is running on much newer versions of the software than is listed; maybe we can tie updating this info into conference registration, or something like that, so at least there's a chance that it will be updated on an annual basis. 2) Handling consortia vs. individual libraries. Do we want to try to plot each library in a given consortia on the map, or just one entry for a given consortia? I think I would prefer to see one entry per library, as the full might of PINES' nearly 300 libraries would stand out, or Conifer's 1000km stretch from Windsor to Thunder Bay. 3) Canonical location for the map data; Jason Etheridge has uploaded a copy of Bob Molyneux's KML file to the Evergreen Website git repository (but maybe the random evergreen repo would be a better spot on a going-forward basis? but then again git is a significant hurdle for many), I suspect Ben is currently editing his copy live for now, Jeff Godin thought maybe an online spreadsheet would be easier for people to contribute to, there's also the possibility of adding coordinates to the wiki page... It's such a deceptively simple project, with a strong emphasis on deceipt. Many thanks in retrospect to all of Bob Molyneux's effort in having kept this up to date in the past!
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
North Texas Library Consortium isn't on the map yet, I can give you coordinates for each of our libraries or a relative central location. What is the preference there? If a relative location is fine you could point to Roanoke, Texas. Thanks, Geoff Sams Roanoke Public Library 817-491-2691 Chairman North Texas Library Consortium Board -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:01 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Hi Tony, On 2012-05-09, at 11:29 AM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? How Cool! ;) We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Added a place mark for COOL with the description you provided. I think the KML file will get fleshed out with specific branch locations as a next step in this mapping adventure. But for now, at least, this quick'n'easy map can do the trick. If there are other consortia or standalones that folks don't see on the map, let me know! Cheers Ben Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ben Hyman ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop wrote: On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Mohawk College is on the map but it is too far north. We are near Hamilton ,Ontario but have been placed deep in the Canadian Shield. Thanks, Robert Robert Soulliere, BA (Hons), MLIS Systems Librarian Mohawk College Library robert.soulli...@mohawkcollege.ca Telephone: 905 575 1212 x3936 Fax: 905 575 2011 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman [ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop] Sent: May 9, 2012 3:00 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Hi Tony, On 2012-05-09, at 11:29 AM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? How Cool! ;) We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Added a place mark for COOL with the description you provided. I think the KML file will get fleshed out with specific branch locations as a next step in this mapping adventure. But for now, at least, this quick'n'easy map can do the trick. If there are other consortia or standalones that folks don't see on the map, let me know! Cheers Ben Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ben Hyman ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop wrote: On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg This E-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named in the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify the sender by reply E-mail immediately, and delete and destroy the original message.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
On 2012-05-09, at 12:03 PM, Geoff Sams wrote: North Texas Library Consortium isn't on the map yet, I can give you coordinates for each of our libraries or a relative central location. What is the preference there? If a relative location is fine you could point to Roanoke, Texas. Added, relatively for now. Thanks, Geoff Sams Roanoke Public Library 817-491-2691 Chairman North Texas Library Consortium Board -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:01 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Hi Tony, On 2012-05-09, at 11:29 AM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? How Cool! ;) We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Added a place mark for COOL with the description you provided. I think the KML file will get fleshed out with specific branch locations as a next step in this mapping adventure. But for now, at least, this quick'n'easy map can do the trick. If there are other consortia or standalones that folks don't see on the map, let me know! Cheers Ben Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ben Hyman ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop wrote: On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
1) Process for adding Evergreen libraries to the map. Maybe updating http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries could / should be step one (only a wiki account is required!), but we don't have coordinates there currently, just a rough location field. Then perhaps map updaters could follow the revisions to that page and update a centralized KML file accordingly. I like the idea of crowd-sourcing the information by having each institution be responsible for updating their information. The simpler this process is, the better. Coordinates are not hard to come by, as long as there is address information. So, I think the location field should be changed to official address. Then we can produce coordinates from that. I would also like to see EG version and perhaps server OS as separate fields. I would also suggest having one person designated as the owner for the map process (thinking in ITIL terms). This owner would be responsible for maintaining current information and producing the map in some agreed format and schedule. The owner does not have to be personally doing all the work, just in charge of the process. Call for volunteers, or is there someone who already fits this role? If no, I would volunteer. 2) Handling consortia vs. individual libraries. Do we want to try to plot each library in a given consortia on the map, or just one entry for a given consortia? I think I would prefer to see one entry per library, as the full might of PINES' nearly 300 libraries would stand out, or Conifer's 1000km stretch from Windsor to Thunder Bay. Thematic maps usually focus on a specific subject area. I would say that the geographic distribution of evergreen libraries is a separate subject from consortia, so let's focus on individual libraries. We would probably need a different type of map for consortia information - location of central office without any additional information about a consortium does not really convey a lot of interesting information. Question: Would it be correct to say that consortia are usually tied to a administrative/political division boundaries? States, provinces, counties, cities, etc? 3) Canonical location for the map data; Jason Etheridge has uploaded a copy of Bob Molyneux's KML file to the Evergreen Website git repository (but maybe the random evergreen repo would be a better spot on a going-forward basis? but then again git is a significant hurdle for many), I suspect Ben is currently editing his copy live for now, Jeff Godin thought maybe an online spreadsheet would be easier for people to contribute to, there's also the possibility of adding coordinates to the wiki page... Simpler = better. The wiki sounds like a good place to collect information initially, low entry barrier. Perhaps at a certain point we could put out a call on the list for libraries to review/update their information? If/before that happens, I think the designated map process owner needs to clean up the formatting of the maps page. Again, call for volunteers, or is there someone who already fits this role? If no, I would volunteer. Alexey Lazar PALS Information System Developer and Integrator 507-389-2907 http://www.mnpals.org/ On May 9, 2012, at 13:53 , Dan Scott wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 02:29:43PM -0400, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 I don't think it's too much email yet :) There are probably a couple of things we want to address in the near future... 1) Process for adding Evergreen libraries to the map. Maybe updating http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries could / should be step one (only a wiki account is required!), but we don't have coordinates there currently, just a rough location field. Then perhaps map updaters could follow the revisions to that page and update a centralized KML file accordingly. In passing, I will also note that a lot of the info appears to be out of date on that wiki page - for example, Conifer has about twice as many libraries and is running on much newer versions of the software than is listed; maybe we can tie updating this info into conference registration, or something like that, so at least there's a chance that it will be updated on an annual basis. 2) Handling consortia vs. individual libraries. Do we want to try to plot each library in a given consortia on the map, or just one entry for a given consortia? I think I would prefer to see one entry per library, as the full might of PINES' nearly 300 libraries would stand out, or Conifer's 1000km stretch from Windsor to Thunder
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
but would folks be amenable to there being some kind of submit your OU hierarchy to the Evergreen Project function Definitely amenable and great idea Galen! George George Duimovich NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Galen Charlton Sent: May 9, 2012 15:44 To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Hi, On May 9, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Dan Scott wrote: 1) Process for adding Evergreen libraries to the map. Maybe updating http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries could / should be step one (only a wiki account is required!), but we don't have coordinates there currently, just a rough location field. Then perhaps map updaters could follow the revisions to that page and update a centralized KML file accordingly. One thing that occurs to me is that some of this could in principle be automated, since any given organization unit hierarchy will almost always include mailing addresses. It wouldn't be perfect -- for example, I know of at least one Evergreen consortium that has OUs that it does not care to (or cannot) publicly identify -- but would folks be amenable to there being some kind of submit your OU hierarchy to the Evergreen Project function, akin to Debian's voluntary package popularity contest? Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Director of Support and Implementation Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
I'm a +1 on Galen's idea to capture this info from Evergreen. I personally believe getting a wiki account in order to enter this info is too high a barrier. I'd like to see it made even easier. And I thnk Galen is on the right track with allow for the info to be submitted to the Map Owner (with a +1 to Alexey's suggestion as well). Also +1 to individual libraries being represented on the map (in case that wasn't obvious). And one other thing, we already have a place to capture information about Evergreen Initiatives such as PINES, Sitka, Bibliomation, etc. We set it up two years ago on the RSCEL site and it is still there. See http://rscel.org/evergreen/about/projects. My plan to continue evolving the RSCEL site as a kind of user group (it has been largely dormant for the last two years) at least as long as there are things there that people find usefulsuch as the Evergreen Initiatives directory and the ILS to OSLS Resources (not much content but the structure still has some legs I think). Lori On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich alexey.la...@mnsu.edu wrote: 1) Process for adding Evergreen libraries to the map. Maybe updating http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen_libraries could / should be step one (only a wiki account is required!), but we don't have coordinates there currently, just a rough location field. Then perhaps map updaters could follow the revisions to that page and update a centralized KML file accordingly. I like the idea of crowd-sourcing the information by having each institution be responsible for updating their information. The simpler this process is, the better. Coordinates are not hard to come by, as long as there is address information. So, I think the location field should be changed to official address. Then we can produce coordinates from that. I would also like to see EG version and perhaps server OS as separate fields. I would also suggest having one person designated as the owner for the map process (thinking in ITIL terms). This owner would be responsible for maintaining current information and producing the map in some agreed format and schedule. The owner does not have to be personally doing all the work, just in charge of the process. Call for volunteers, or is there someone who already fits this role? If no, I would volunteer. 2) Handling consortia vs. individual libraries. Do we want to try to plot each library in a given consortia on the map, or just one entry for a given consortia? I think I would prefer to see one entry per library, as the full might of PINES' nearly 300 libraries would stand out, or Conifer's 1000km stretch from Windsor to Thunder Bay. Thematic maps usually focus on a specific subject area. I would say that the geographic distribution of evergreen libraries is a separate subject from consortia, so let's focus on individual libraries. We would probably need a different type of map for consortia information - location of central office without any additional information about a consortium does not really convey a lot of interesting information. Question: Would it be correct to say that consortia are usually tied to a administrative/political division boundaries? States, provinces, counties, cities, etc? 3) Canonical location for the map data; Jason Etheridge has uploaded a copy of Bob Molyneux's KML file to the Evergreen Website git repository (but maybe the random evergreen repo would be a better spot on a going-forward basis? but then again git is a significant hurdle for many), I suspect Ben is currently editing his copy live for now, Jeff Godin thought maybe an online spreadsheet would be easier for people to contribute to, there's also the possibility of adding coordinates to the wiki page... Simpler = better. The wiki sounds like a good place to collect information initially, low entry barrier. Perhaps at a certain point we could put out a call on the list for libraries to review/update their information? If/before that happens, I think the designated map process owner needs to clean up the formatting of the maps page. Again, call for volunteers, or is there someone who already fits this role? If no, I would volunteer. Alexey Lazar PALS Information System Developer and Integrator 507-389-2907 http://www.mnpals.org/ On May 9, 2012, at 13:53 , Dan Scott wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 02:29:43PM -0400, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 I don't think it's too much email yet :) There are probably a couple of things we want
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
I'm strongly in favor of this and have similar ulterior motives as this kind of visualization is a powerful tool. Quoting Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan -- Rogan Hamby Manager Rock Hill Library Reference Services York County Library System Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Hi, On May 5, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? This is a good idea. In the very short term, would anybody who has a copy of the KML file be willing to (say) upload it to the wiki? Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Director of Support and Implementation Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
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On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? I would like to again see the Google map visualization of EG installations made publicly available. I am not familiar yet on the KML format, but I am willing to learn and help keep it updated. Yamil
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan
