Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
We are on 3.2.8 and I can see 'edit holdings templates' under Local Admin but there's no defaults tab, just a holdings template screen. Maybe it went away sooner. I believe this was done so that templates could be created without having to go through a bib record. I know I liked this in xul, so we could hide floating, deposit, and deposit amount. There was a library that saved floating=yes in the new books template. It would be nice to have this as a library setting in the web client. Janet Janet Schrader Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606 P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801 -- jschra...@cwmars.org || http;//cwmars.org <http://www.cwmars.org/> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:10 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn wrote: > The one place they are consistently is with the Holdings Template Editor > within the Holdings Editor. > > > > This has to be set per workstation, there has not been anywhere I can find > to set this globally currently. > > > > This is also depending on which version of Evergreen you are using. In > 3.2 and before there was a default tab with in the Holdings Template Editor > in Local Administration. > > In 3.3 + the default tab is only there when you access the Template Editor > with in the Holdings Editor. > > > I am placing a Bug report about this as we discuss this. > > > > - > Lynn Floyd > MIS Supervisor > > Indiana State Library > 317-232-3290 > lflo...@library.in.gov > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Morgan, > Michele > *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! > > > > So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation > settings jump out at me. > > -- > > Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst > > North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts > > mmor...@noblenet.org > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn < > lflo...@library.in.gov> wrote: > > The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not > transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using > the Holdings Template Editor. > > > > > > - > Lynn Floyd > MIS Supervisor > > Indiana State Library > 317-232-3290 > lflo...@library.in.gov > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary > Llewellyn > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Hi, > > > > I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up > for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on > library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor > on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. > > > > We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit > Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field > instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message > that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the > library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. > > > > The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best > maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item > Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of > field identifiers to hide. " > > > > The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields > in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This > is useful to hide attributes that are not used. > http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html > > > > Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried > column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. > > > > Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by > library? > > > > I appreciate any guidance. > > > > Mary > > > -- > > Mary Llewellyn > > Database Manager > > Bibliomation, Inc. > > 24 Wooster Ave. > > Waterbury, CT 06708 > > mllew...@biblio.org > >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
A little digging reveals that the holdings editor defaults are stored in
the user setting *cat.copy.defaults *
Here is the *value *of that setting for a staff user:
{"auto_gen_barcode":false,"barcode_checkdigit":false,"copy_notes":true,"show_vol_template_controls":true,"copy_tags":true,"statcats":true,"attributes":{"deposit":false,"location":true,"deposit_amount":false,"loan_duration":true,"status":true,"mint_condition":false,"floating":true,"opac_visible":true,"circ_lib":true,"holdable":true,"cost":true,"price":true,"circ_as_type":false,"alerts":true,"circulate":true,"fine_level":true,"circ_modifier":true,"age_protect":true,"ref":true}}
Since user settings can be turned into org unit settings, you could
potentially do this globally.
You would need to add a row in the *config.org_unit_setting_type *table
with the name *cat.copy.defaults*
Then add a row to *actor.org_unit_setting* with name=cat.copy.defaults,
org_unit=1and value = the string (like above) specifying the fields to be
hidden
User settings would override this, but it should give you a baseline.
I haven't tested this, but will give it a try on a test server when I have
a chance.
--
Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst
North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
mmor...@noblenet.org
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:21 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn
wrote:
> There is a bug report about the missing tab in the Local Administration
> Menu for the Holdings Template Editor.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1892381
>
>
>
> Now for the bug about not being able to set these Globally.
>
>
>
> -
> Lynn Floyd
> MIS Supervisor
>
> Indiana State Library
> 317-232-3290
> lflo...@library.in.gov
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general <
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Floyd,
> Angelia Lynn
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:10 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields
> within the Item Attribute Editor.
>
>
>
> This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments
> or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email.
> --
>
> The one place they are consistently is with the Holdings Template Editor
> within the Holdings Editor.
>
>
>
> This has to be set per workstation, there has not been anywhere I can find
> to set this globally currently.
>
>
>
> This is also depending on which version of Evergreen you are using. In
> 3.2 and before there was a default tab with in the Holdings Template Editor
> in Local Administration.
>
> In 3.3 + the default tab is only there when you access the Template Editor
> with in the Holdings Editor.
>
>
> I am placing a Bug report about this as we discuss this.
>
>
>
> ---------
> Lynn Floyd
> MIS Supervisor
>
> Indiana State Library
> 317-232-3290
> lflo...@library.in.gov
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general <
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Morgan,
> Michele
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields
> within the Item Attribute Editor.
>
>
>
> This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments
> or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email.
> --
>
> Thanks for clarifying that Lynn!
>
>
>
> So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation
> settings jump out at me.
>
> --
>
> Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst
>
> North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts
>
> mmor...@noblenet.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn <
> lflo...@library.in.gov> wrote:
>
> The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not
> transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using
> the Holdings Template Editor.
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Lynn Floyd
> MIS Supervisor
>
> Indiana State Library
> 317-232-3290
> lflo...@library.in.gov
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general <
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
It would be nice to have the holdings templates managed similarly to the new method of receipt template management. Ruth Frasur Evergreen Development and Support Administrator Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 460-7556 From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:22 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Thanks, Lynn. We are currently on 3.1, and testing 3.4, so I was puzzled by all the directions to do it in the Holdings Template Editor since the Default tab wasn't there, only in the Volume/Copy Editor when adding or editing an item. It wouldn't have solved my wish for a centralized process anyway. On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:10 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov>> wrote: The one place they are consistently is with the Holdings Template Editor within the Holdings Editor. This has to be set per workstation, there has not been anywhere I can find to set this globally currently. This is also depending on which version of Evergreen you are using. In 3.2 and before there was a default tab with in the Holdings Template Editor in Local Administration. In 3.3 + the default tab is only there when you access the Template Editor with in the Holdings Editor. I am placing a Bug report about this as we discuss this. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation settings jump out at me. -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org<mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov>> wrote: The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using the Holdings Template Editor. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Hi, I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of field identifiers to hide. " The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This is useful to hide attributes that are not used. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by library? I appreciate any guidance. Mary -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Biblioma
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
There is a bug report about the missing tab in the Local Administration Menu for the Holdings Template Editor. https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1892381 Now for the bug about not being able to set these Globally. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Floyd, Angelia Lynn Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:10 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. The one place they are consistently is with the Holdings Template Editor within the Holdings Editor. This has to be set per workstation, there has not been anywhere I can find to set this globally currently. This is also depending on which version of Evergreen you are using. In 3.2 and before there was a default tab with in the Holdings Template Editor in Local Administration. In 3.3 + the default tab is only there when you access the Template Editor with in the Holdings Editor. I am placing a Bug report about this as we discuss this. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation settings jump out at me. -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org<mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov>> wrote: The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using the Holdings Template Editor. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Hi, I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of field identifiers to hide. " The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This is useful to hide attributes that are not used. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by library? I appreciate any guidance. Mary -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org<mailto:mllew...@biblio.org>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
The one place they are consistently is with the Holdings Template Editor within the Holdings Editor. This has to be set per workstation, there has not been anywhere I can find to set this globally currently. This is also depending on which version of Evergreen you are using. In 3.2 and before there was a default tab with in the Holdings Template Editor in Local Administration. In 3.3 + the default tab is only there when you access the Template Editor with in the Holdings Editor. I am placing a Bug report about this as we discuss this. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation settings jump out at me. -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org<mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov>> wrote: The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using the Holdings Template Editor. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Hi, I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of field identifiers to hide. " The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This is useful to hide attributes that are not used. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by library? I appreciate any guidance. Mary -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org<mailto:mllew...@biblio.org>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
I was hoping for a centralized way to set the hidden fields some way other than the Default tab. One of my libraries missed hiding a field in the default, so I want to take that burden off of them. What I'm hearing is there is no way to do that. On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM Frasur, Ruth wrote: > These are in the holdings template editor under the “defaults” tab. > > > > Ruth Frasur > > *Evergreen Development and Support Administrator* > > Indiana State Library > > 140 N. Senate Ave. > > Indianapolis, IN 46204 > > (317) 460-7556 > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Morgan, > Michele > *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! > > > > So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation > settings jump out at me. > > -- > > Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst > > North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts > > mmor...@noblenet.org > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn < > lflo...@library.in.gov> wrote: > > The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not > transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using > the Holdings Template Editor. > > > > > > - > Lynn Floyd > MIS Supervisor > > Indiana State Library > 317-232-3290 > lflo...@library.in.gov > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary > Llewellyn > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Hi, > > > > I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up > for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on > library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor > on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. > > > > We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit > Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field > instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message > that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the > library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. > > > > The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best > maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item > Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of > field identifiers to hide. " > > > > The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields > in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This > is useful to hide attributes that are not used. > http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html > > > > Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried > column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. > > > > Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by > library? > > > > I appreciate any guidance. > > > > Mary > > > -- > > Mary Llewellyn > > Database Manager > > Bibliomation, Inc. > > 24 Wooster Ave. > > Waterbury, CT 06708 > > mllew...@biblio.org > > -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
Lol, that I can’t help with. Apologies for the misunderstanding. Ruth Frasur Evergreen Development and Support Administrator Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 460-7556 From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:55 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Thanks Ruth, But what I really meant to ask is where in the database (or hatch? or browser storage?) the preferences are stored. Thanks, Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org<mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM Frasur, Ruth mailto:rfra...@library.in.gov>> wrote: These are in the holdings template editor under the “defaults” tab. Ruth Frasur Evergreen Development and Support Administrator Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 460-7556 From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation settings jump out at me. -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org<mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov>> wrote: The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using the Holdings Template Editor. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Hi, I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of field identifiers to hide. " The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This is useful to hide attributes that are not used. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by library? I appreciate any guidance. Mary -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org<mailto:mllew...@biblio.org>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
Thanks Ruth, But what I really meant to ask is where in the database (or hatch? or browser storage?) the preferences are stored. Thanks, Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM Frasur, Ruth wrote: > These are in the holdings template editor under the “defaults” tab. > > > > Ruth Frasur > > *Evergreen Development and Support Administrator* > > Indiana State Library > > 140 N. Senate Ave. > > Indianapolis, IN 46204 > > (317) 460-7556 > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Morgan, > Michele > *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! > > > > So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation > settings jump out at me. > > -- > > Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst > > North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts > > mmor...@noblenet.org > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn < > lflo...@library.in.gov> wrote: > > The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not > transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using > the Holdings Template Editor. > > > > > > - > Lynn Floyd > MIS Supervisor > > Indiana State Library > 317-232-3290 > lflo...@library.in.gov > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary > Llewellyn > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Hi, > > > > I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up > for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on > library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor > on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. > > > > We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit > Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field > instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message > that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the > library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. > > > > The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best > maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item > Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of > field identifiers to hide. " > > > > The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields > in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This > is useful to hide attributes that are not used. > http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html > > > > Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried > column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. > > > > Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by > library? > > > > I appreciate any guidance. > > > > Mary > > > -- > > Mary Llewellyn > > Database Manager > > Bibliomation, Inc. > > 24 Wooster Ave. > > Waterbury, CT 06708 > > mllew...@biblio.org > >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
These are in the holdings template editor under the “defaults” tab. Ruth Frasur Evergreen Development and Support Administrator Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 460-7556 From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:16 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation settings jump out at me. -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org<mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov>> wrote: The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using the Holdings Template Editor. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>> On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Hi, I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of field identifiers to hide. " The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This is useful to hide attributes that are not used. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by library? I appreciate any guidance. Mary -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org<mailto:mllew...@biblio.org>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
Thanks for clarifying that Lynn! So where are those settings stored now? I don't see any workstation settings jump out at me. -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn wrote: > The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not > transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using > the Holdings Template Editor. > > > > > > - > Lynn Floyd > MIS Supervisor > > Indiana State Library > 317-232-3290 > lflo...@library.in.gov > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary > Llewellyn > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Hi, > > > > I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up > for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on > library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor > on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. > > > > We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit > Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field > instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message > that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the > library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. > > > > The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best > maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item > Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of > field identifiers to hide. " > > > > The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields > in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This > is useful to hide attributes that are not used. > http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html > > > > Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried > column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. > > > > Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by > library? > > > > I appreciate any guidance. > > > > Mary > > > -- > > Mary Llewellyn > > Database Manager > > Bibliomation, Inc. > > 24 Wooster Ave. > > Waterbury, CT 06708 > > mllew...@biblio.org >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
That’s a shame. I was trying to find a way so that the libraries wouldn’t have to be responsible for their own settings. On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:49 AM Floyd, Angelia Lynn wrote: > The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not > transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using > the Holdings Template Editor. > > > > > > - > Lynn Floyd > MIS Supervisor > > Indiana State Library > 317-232-3290 > lflo...@library.in.gov > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Mary > Llewellyn > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields > within the Item Attribute Editor. > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Hi, > > > > I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up > for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on > library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor > on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. > > > > We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit > Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field > instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message > that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the > library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. > > > > The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best > maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item > Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of > field identifiers to hide. " > > > > The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields > in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This > is useful to hide attributes that are not used. > http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html > > > > Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried > column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. > > > > Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by > library? > > > > I appreciate any guidance. > > > > Mary > > > -- > > Mary Llewellyn > > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/24+Wooster+Ave.+%0D%0A+%0D%0A+Waterbury,+CT+06708?entry=gmail=g> > > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/24+Wooster+Ave.+%0D%0A+%0D%0A+Waterbury,+CT+06708?entry=gmail=g> > > Database Manager > > Bibliomation, Inc. > > 24 Wooster Ave. > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/24+Wooster+Ave.+%0D%0A+%0D%0A+Waterbury,+CT+06708?entry=gmail=g> > > Waterbury, CT 06708 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/24+Wooster+Ave.+%0D%0A+%0D%0A+Waterbury,+CT+06708?entry=gmail=g> > > mllew...@biblio.org > -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
The setting in the Library Setting are from the XUL client and do not transfer to the Web Client. In the Web Client you can set those up using the Holdings Template Editor. - Lynn Floyd MIS Supervisor Indiana State Library 317-232-3290 lflo...@library.in.gov<mailto:lflo...@library.in.gov> From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor. This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Hi, I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of field identifiers to hide. " The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This is useful to hide attributes that are not used. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by library? I appreciate any guidance. Mary -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org<mailto:mllew...@biblio.org>
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
Hi Mary, We use these library settings to hide fields that we don't use. It can be done consortium wide. Here's an example of a value from actor.org_unit_setting that hides the specified fields: ["Circulate as Type","Deposit Amount","Deposit?","Floating?","Quality"] This setting can be configured in the client in the Holdings Editor on the Defaults tab. Hope this helps! Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:30 PM Mary Llewellyn wrote: > Hi, > > I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up > for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on > library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor > on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. > > We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit > Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field > instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message > that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the > library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. > > The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best > maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item > Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of > field identifiers to hide. " > > The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields > in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This > is useful to hide attributes that are not used. > http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html > > Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried > column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. > > Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by > library? > > I appreciate any guidance. > > Mary > > -- > Mary Llewellyn > Database Manager > Bibliomation, Inc. > 24 Wooster Ave. > Waterbury, CT 06708 > mllew...@biblio.org >
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Library setting: GUI: Hide these fields within the Item Attribute Editor.
Hi, I'm intrigued by this library setting. It would be useful to set this up for our libraries to hide fields we don't use instead of counting on library staff to remember to uncheck the fields in the Volume Copy Editor on the Defaults tab, workstation by workstation. We had an incident where a staff member didn't hide/disable the Deposit Amount field and accidentally put the price of the item in that field instead of in the price field, then was weirded out by an error message that popped up when trying to circulate the item. If I could get the library setting to work, we'd avoid situations like this. The instructions for this setting say " This setting may be best maintained with the dedicated configuration interface within the Item Attribute Editor. However, here it shows up as comma separated list of field identifiers to hide. " The documentation Chapter 14 Settings Overview says, " Sets which fields in the Item Attribute Editor to hide in the staff client." and adds " This is useful to hide attributes that are not used. http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.1/staff_client_admin/_settings_overview.html Where I'm lost is the text of the field identifiers to enter. I've tried column names from asset.copy, but have had no luck. Also, can I set this consortium wide, or do I need to set it library by library? I appreciate any guidance. Mary -- Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org
