Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe
Pioneer would LOVE to see more discussion of Bibframe integration in Evergreen. A couple of us here have tossed around the idea of seeing what we could do ourselves, but never seem to have the time or discipline to be more focused. But we think improving discoverability of our resources outside of our catalog is/will be/should be a growing concern. And we would LOVE to see an open source alternative to OCLC Cataloging/WorldCat Discovery. Lindsay Lindsay Stratton Library Automation Services Manager Pioneer Library System 2557 State Rte 21 Canandaigua, NY 14424 > From: "Murphy, Benjamin" > To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 9:50:34 AM > Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe > I was talking to a library that is considering joining our consortium and they > asked a question about Bibframe that I couldn’t find an answer to: > “Has Evergreen given any hints when they will come up with a cataloging > product > that will provide compatibility with the new Bibframe metadata format?” > I searched the EG site, Launchpad, etc. and only came up with this: [ > https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1089953 | > https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1089953 ] > What say ye? > Benjamin > Benjamin Murphy > NC Cardinal Program Manager > NC Dept. of Natural and Cultural Resources > 919.814.6797 | [ mailto:benjamin.mur...@ncdcr.gov | benjamin.mur...@ncdcr.gov > ] > [ https://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/ld/nc-cardinal | > https://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/ld/nc-cardinal ] > 109 East Jones Street | 4640 Mail Service Center > Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-4600 > Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina > Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
A discussion of bibframe could be a very long thread in it's own right. I don't have strong feelings about it. Any new content / carrier formats that come out will be compromises. Frankly, RDA/Bibframe is all fairly underwhelming to me though it going forward is a good thing and there are potential uses that could be pretty cool. And there is a long road ahead where plenty can change so I'm hesitant to get too worked up about it. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: I just received an invitation Zepheira to attend a webinar to look at a progression from MARC to BIBFRAME. I know next to nothing about this and was wondering about any thoughts on it from the Evergreen community. -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
I think that at this point it's kind of like RDA - it will be part of the process even if it's not the actual final thing, and even though what we see now may be a very different beast by the end it may have the same name as this thing along with some of its DNA. And in the spirit of things vaguely kind of will and not quite yet but kind of now does I present the evergreen bibframe haiku: No one catalog Along this library but I, This evergreen bibframe. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: Okay, and I'm not knowledgeable about any of it to get worked up at all. I am, however, interested to see if this is an actual thing or just another library idea that ends up being a pain with little added value. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: A discussion of bibframe could be a very long thread in it's own right. I don't have strong feelings about it. Any new content / carrier formats that come out will be compromises. Frankly, RDA/Bibframe is all fairly underwhelming to me though it going forward is a good thing and there are potential uses that could be pretty cool. And there is a long road ahead where plenty can change so I'm hesitant to get too worked up about it. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: I just received an invitation Zepheira to attend a webinar to look at a progression from MARC to BIBFRAME. I know next to nothing about this and was wondering about any thoughts on it from the Evergreen community. -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 09:59, Rogan Hamby wrote: I think that at this point it's kind of like RDA - it will be part of the process even if it's not the actual final thing, and even though what we see now may be a very different beast by the end it may have the same name as this thing along with some of its DNA. And in the spirit of things vaguely kind of will and not quite yet but kind of now does I present the evergreen bibframe haiku: No one catalog Along this library but I, This evergreen bibframe. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: Okay, and I'm not knowledgeable about any of it to get worked up at all. I am, however, interested to see if this is an actual thing or just another library idea that ends up being a pain with little added value. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: A discussion of bibframe could be a very long thread in it's own right. I don't have strong feelings about it. Any new content / carrier formats that come out will be compromises. Frankly, RDA/Bibframe is all fairly underwhelming to me though it going forward is a good thing and there are potential uses that could be pretty cool. And there is a long road ahead where plenty can change so I'm hesitant to get too worked up about it. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: I just received an invitation Zepheira to attend a webinar to look at a progression from MARC to BIBFRAME. I know next to nothing about this and was wondering about any thoughts on it from the Evergreen community. -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 09:59, Rogan Hamby wrote: I think that at this point it's kind of like RDA - it will be part of the process even if it's not the actual final thing, and even though what we see now may be a very different beast by the end it may have the same name as this thing along with some of its DNA. And in the spirit of things vaguely kind of will and not quite yet but kind of now does I present the evergreen bibframe haiku: No one catalog Along this library but I, This evergreen bibframe. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ruth Frasur director@hagerstownlibrary. org wrote: Okay, and I'm not knowledgeable about any of it to get worked up at all. I am, however, interested to see if this is an actual thing or just another library idea that ends up being a pain with little added value. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net wrote: A discussion of bibframe could be a very long thread in it's own right. I don't have strong feelings about it. Any new content / carrier formats that come out will be compromises. Frankly, RDA/Bibframe is all fairly underwhelming to me though it going forward is a good thing and there are potential uses that could be pretty cool. And there is a long road ahead where plenty can change so I'm hesitant to get too worked up about it. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ruth Frasur direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org wrote: I just received an invitation Zepheira to attend a webinar to look at a progression from MARC to BIBFRAME. I know next to nothing about this and was wondering about any thoughts on it from the Evergreen community. -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/ author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Reading http://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/ -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which we all must live. I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences of AACR2 and MARC? Probably many aren't senior enough to have been around then! :) - - mt On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. - -- * Marc Truitt University Librarianvoice : 506-364-2567 Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca Libraries and Archives fax: 506-364-2617 49 York Street cell : 506-232-0503 Sackville, NB E4L 1C6 Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us. See, I am showing you. She made these words on a /page/, and a page is made of /paper/. She made the words with /writing/, that she marked down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a /book/. See, I am showing you. This is the Book, these are the Pages, here is the Writing. -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ (2013) Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978! * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTMumbAAoJEPzj7kQh8LzLok4IAI2GPldHaLSM21383EjGamNA BXbya2Znj7sHz7Zm0fHgAzsB3+aIz5GMq2UoaEXwhdSLY25Tp0AxOA8vbSs0csva w/1hPkhbm5MHhFN3O+cdkiJ1Xc3eK3vHNCJOeG5lRNO12OL8fNTvFChM+QRZ5m3E +NQwDHF7z3iOrKt1H9Ko9uDzanqr2ki8hxnuxfqO36ousEAfkZyI+QTe4uqna3nA a7JO/tDB4aqeNWoY67LHX5xFTQ+Ggav0+DnbPReZUt34LvspMxB4onJPYI0A5zpg CWinJTvkmI0FYwdRb40Glt8MSK+qGRbdiKdrRvNcpJ0UgXRsIh5mbu6gNU/s5TA= =Ea0N -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
Just because we can have lived through something doesn't mean we wouldn't like to skip it. I've lived through my oldest child's adolescent years and would rather have skipped those (probably my own too come to think of it).. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Marc Truitt mtru...@mta.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which we all must live. I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences of AACR2 and MARC? Probably many aren't senior enough to have been around then! :) - - mt On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. - -- * Marc Truitt University Librarianvoice : 506-364-2567 Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca Libraries and Archives fax: 506-364-2617 49 York Street cell : 506-232-0503 Sackville, NB E4L 1C6 Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us. See, I am showing you. She made these words on a /page/, and a page is made of /paper/. She made the words with /writing/, that she marked down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a /book/. See, I am showing you. This is the Book, these are the Pages, here is the Writing. -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ (2013) Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978! * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTMumbAAoJEPzj7kQh8LzLok4IAI2GPldHaLSM21383EjGamNA BXbya2Znj7sHz7Zm0fHgAzsB3+aIz5GMq2UoaEXwhdSLY25Tp0AxOA8vbSs0csva w/1hPkhbm5MHhFN3O+cdkiJ1Xc3eK3vHNCJOeG5lRNO12OL8fNTvFChM+QRZ5m3E +NQwDHF7z3iOrKt1H9Ko9uDzanqr2ki8hxnuxfqO36ousEAfkZyI+QTe4uqna3nA a7JO/tDB4aqeNWoY67LHX5xFTQ+Ggav0+DnbPReZUt34LvspMxB4onJPYI0A5zpg CWinJTvkmI0FYwdRb40Glt8MSK+qGRbdiKdrRvNcpJ0UgXRsIh5mbu6gNU/s5TA= =Ea0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
I don't know. There's definite value in the adolescent stage, even if it's ugly and painful. Well, it'll surely be interesting to see where it goes and it/when it affects Evergreen infrastructure. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: Just because we can have lived through something doesn't mean we wouldn't like to skip it. I've lived through my oldest child's adolescent years and would rather have skipped those (probably my own too come to think of it).. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Marc Truitt mtru...@mta.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which we all must live. I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences of AACR2 and MARC? Probably many aren't senior enough to have been around then! :) - - mt On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. - -- * Marc Truitt University Librarianvoice : 506-364-2567 Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca Libraries and Archives fax: 506-364-2617 49 York Street cell : 506-232-0503 Sackville, NB E4L 1C6 Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us. See, I am showing you. She made these words on a /page/, and a page is made of /paper/. She made the words with /writing/, that she marked down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a /book/. See, I am showing you. This is the Book, these are the Pages, here is the Writing. -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ (2013) Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978! * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTMumbAAoJEPzj7kQh8LzLok4IAI2GPldHaLSM21383EjGamNA BXbya2Znj7sHz7Zm0fHgAzsB3+aIz5GMq2UoaEXwhdSLY25Tp0AxOA8vbSs0csva w/1hPkhbm5MHhFN3O+cdkiJ1Xc3eK3vHNCJOeG5lRNO12OL8fNTvFChM+QRZ5m3E +NQwDHF7z3iOrKt1H9Ko9uDzanqr2ki8hxnuxfqO36ousEAfkZyI+QTe4uqna3nA a7JO/tDB4aqeNWoY67LHX5xFTQ+Ggav0+DnbPReZUt34LvspMxB4onJPYI0A5zpg CWinJTvkmI0FYwdRb40Glt8MSK+qGRbdiKdrRvNcpJ0UgXRsIh5mbu6gNU/s5TA= =Ea0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/
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That's a good point, as long as we emerge from this stage as stronger, smarter, and maturely developed, rather than emotionally stunted, scarred for life, and unable to move on. :) --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 11:17, Ruth Frasur wrote: I don't know. There's definite value in the adolescent stage, even if it's ugly and painful. Well, it'll surely be interesting to see where it goes and it/when it affects Evergreen infrastructure. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: Just because we can have lived through something doesn't mean we wouldn't like to skip it. I've lived through my oldest child's adolescent years and would rather have skipped those (probably my own too come to think of it).. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Marc Truitt mtru...@mta.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which we all must live. I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences of AACR2 and MARC? Probably many aren't senior enough to have been around then! :) - - mt On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. - -- * Marc Truitt University Librarianvoice : 506-364-2567 Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca Libraries and Archives fax: 506-364-2617 49 York Street cell : 506-232-0503 Sackville, NB E4L 1C6 Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us. See, I am showing you. She made these words on a /page/, and a page is made of /paper/. She made the words with /writing/, that she marked down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a /book/. See, I am showing you. This is the Book, these are the Pages, here is the Writing. -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ (2013) Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978! * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTMumbAAoJEPzj7kQh8LzLok4IAI2GPldHaLSM21383EjGamNA BXbya2Znj7sHz7Zm0fHgAzsB3+aIz5GMq2UoaEXwhdSLY25Tp0AxOA8vbSs0csva w/1hPkhbm5MHhFN3O+cdkiJ1Xc3eK3vHNCJOeG5lRNO12OL8fNTvFChM+QRZ5m3E +NQwDHF7z3iOrKt1H9Ko9uDzanqr2ki8hxnuxfqO36ousEAfkZyI+QTe4uqna3nA a7JO/tDB4aqeNWoY67LHX5xFTQ+Ggav0+DnbPReZUt34LvspMxB4onJPYI0A5zpg CWinJTvkmI0FYwdRb40Glt8MSK+qGRbdiKdrRvNcpJ0UgXRsIh5mbu6gNU/s5TA= =Ea0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
More information on LC's Bibframe initiative can be found at http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/ Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Childs Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:54 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar That's a good point, as long as we emerge from this stage as stronger, smarter, and maturely developed, rather than emotionally stunted, scarred for life, and unable to move on. :) --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 11:17, Ruth Frasur wrote: I don't know. There's definite value in the adolescent stage, even if it's ugly and painful. Well, it'll surely be interesting to see where it goes and it/when it affects Evergreen infrastructure. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: Just because we can have lived through something doesn't mean we wouldn't like to skip it. I've lived through my oldest child's adolescent years and would rather have skipped those (probably my own too come to think of it).. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Marc Truitt mtru...@mta.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which we all must live. I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences of AACR2 and MARC? Probably many aren't senior enough to have been around then! :) - - mt On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. - -- * Marc Truitt University Librarianvoice : 506-364-2567 Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca Libraries and Archives fax: 506-364-2617 49 York Street cell : 506-232-0503 Sackville, NB E4L 1C6 Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us. See, I am showing you. She made these words on a /page/, and a page is made of /paper/. She made the words with /writing/, that she marked down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a /book/. See, I am showing you. This is the Book, these are the Pages, here is the Writing. -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ (2013) Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978! * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTMumbAAoJEPzj7kQh8LzLok4IAI2GPldHaLSM21383EjGamNA BXbya2Znj7sHz7Zm0fHgAzsB3+aIz5GMq2UoaEXwhdSLY25Tp0AxOA8vbSs0csva w/1hPkhbm5MHhFN3O+cdkiJ1Xc3eK3vHNCJOeG5lRNO12OL8fNTvFChM+QRZ5m3E +NQwDHF7z3iOrKt1H9Ko9uDzanqr2ki8hxnuxfqO36ousEAfkZyI+QTe4uqna3nA a7JO/tDB4aqeNWoY67LHX5xFTQ+Ggav0+DnbPReZUt34LvspMxB4onJPYI0A5zpg CWinJTvkmI0FYwdRb40Glt8MSK+qGRbdiKdrRvNcpJ0UgXRsIh5mbu6gNU/s5TA= =Ea0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com/hjtplibrary/ruth-reads/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar
Thanks Elaine :-) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: More information on LC's Bibframe initiative can be found at http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/ Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Childs Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:54 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bibframe webinar That's a good point, as long as we emerge from this stage as stronger, smarter, and maturely developed, rather than emotionally stunted, scarred for life, and unable to move on. :) --- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us On 2014-03-26 11:17, Ruth Frasur wrote: I don't know. There's definite value in the adolescent stage, even if it's ugly and painful. Well, it'll surely be interesting to see where it goes and it/when it affects Evergreen infrastructure. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: Just because we can have lived through something doesn't mean we wouldn't like to skip it. I've lived through my oldest child's adolescent years and would rather have skipped those (probably my own too come to think of it).. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Marc Truitt mtru...@mta.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolescence -- in people and in things -- is something through which we all must live. I wonder if we've all forgotten the adolescences of AACR2 and MARC? Probably many aren't senior enough to have been around then! :) - - mt On 03/26/2014 11:42 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Awkward adolescent is a good description, if kind :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: I have a similar attitude to you about Bibframe. Is this where we're headed? I'm not sure, but surely we've got to move on from MARC, so I'm watching with interest to see what happens. I wish we could have avoided this awkward adolescent RDA in MARC stage, though. - -- * Marc Truitt University Librarianvoice : 506-364-2567 Mount Allison Universitye-mail : mtru...@mta.ca Libraries and Archives fax: 506-364-2617 49 York Street cell : 506-232-0503 Sackville, NB E4L 1C6 Now this is the Book that Toby made when she lived among us. See, I am showing you. She made these words on a /page/, and a page is made of /paper/. She made the words with /writing/, that she marked down with a stick called a /pen/, with black fluid called /ink/, and she made the /pages/ join together at one side, and that is called a /book/. See, I am showing you. This is the Book, these are the Pages, here is the Writing. -- Margaret Atwood, _MaddAddam_ (2013) Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1978! * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTMumbAAoJEPzj7kQh8LzLok4IAI2GPldHaLSM21383EjGamNA BXbya2Znj7sHz7Zm0fHgAzsB3+aIz5GMq2UoaEXwhdSLY25Tp0AxOA8vbSs0csva w/1hPkhbm5MHhFN3O+cdkiJ1Xc3eK3vHNCJOeG5lRNO12OL8fNTvFChM+QRZ5m3E +NQwDHF7z3iOrKt1H9Ko9uDzanqr2ki8hxnuxfqO36ousEAfkZyI+QTe4uqna3nA a7JO/tDB4aqeNWoY67LHX5xFTQ+Ggav0+DnbPReZUt34LvspMxB4onJPYI0A5zpg CWinJTvkmI0FYwdRb40Glt8MSK+qGRbdiKdrRvNcpJ0UgXRsIh5mbu6gNU/s5TA= =Ea0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. -- Ray Bradbury https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346) p (765) 489-5632; f (765) 489-5808 Our Kickin' Website http://hagerstownlibrary.org Our Rockin' Facebook Page http://facebook.com/hjtplibrary and Stuff I'm Readinghttp://pinterest.com
