[open-location-code] Re: Using Plus Codes to identify graves in old cemeteries

2019-10-21 Thread Andreas B

>
> However this would be implemented I imagine it would have to be at almost 
> zero cost as I'm sure they don't have tons of resources. However the 
> standardization and permanence of the Plus Codes should have some appeal.
>

Thinking about this some more, I can see this goal of "near zero cost" as 
actually being realistic. Considering that plus codes themselves are free, 
add QR codes that cemetery managers could print for themselves which lead 
to some web or app interface doing the address translation from "grave 
code" to full plus code, and you could easily have a working solution at a 
small and basically fixed cost that could be offset by showing some 
unobtrusive app or offering additional services.

I just wonder if there's really any demand for that sort of thing. If you 
find out, feel free to let me know.

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[open-location-code] Re: Using Plus Codes to identify graves in old cemeteries

2019-10-20 Thread George Klucsarits
Hi Andreas,

Yes, the implementation part is where I'm lost at the moment. I'm wondering 
if there would be any interest from cemetery managers to agree to adopt 
Plus Codes as a standard. They could still use whatever Section/Row/Plot 
system they have now, but simply add the Plus Code. You touched on the 
advantages in that regardless of how the cemetery might be redesigned. 
Maybe we could think of Plus Codes and cemeteries as your final, permanent 
forwarding address.

For modern cemeteries, I would think that they could provide a simple 
lookup by name, date of birth or death, etc. They could then include the 
plot information and the Plus Code. I'm thinking of a race I just ran and 
the lookup information for the finishers; enter one or more qualifying bits 
of information and get the results.

For older cemeteries, or those not actively maintained, projects similar to 
what billiongraves.com is doing could be encouraged. In fact, since 
billiongraves.com already has GPS coordinates, adding Plus Codes to their 
data would be relatively easy.

I think the best solution would be to encourage cemeteries to adopt the 
Plus Codes as a standard. Implementation would be on the local cemetery 
level as I think that's where it would be most frequently used. Most people 
searching for a grave probably know which cemetery. Cemeteries would then 
be encouraged to make their information publicly available and shareable 
through sites like billiongraves or various genealogy sites.

If anyone has any contacts with cemetery managers or their trade 
associations, it would be interesting to get their input. However this 
would be implemented I imagine it would have to be at almost zero cost as 
I'm sure they don't have tons of resources. However the standardization and 
permanence of the Plus Codes should have some appeal.

On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 9:38:42 AM UTC-4, Andreas B wrote:
>
> Hi George,
>
> you are right, this is something where plus codes could be useful. The 
> size of cemeteries should allow to omit the first six or sometimes even 
> eight character, leaving a short string like "CF+GHJ" or even just "+GHJ" 
> to properly address the site of a specific grave on a cemetery, as long as 
> the cemetery's location is known. This code would continue to address a 
> site even when the whole cemetery gets redesigned or abandoned, making it 
> more useful than "section/row/plot" in the long term.
>
> The question is, what implementation of functionality is really necessary 
> for this to be adopted? Individual people can already find out the location 
> (and plus code) of a grave using their smartphones and Google Maps, then 
> shorten it as necessary and pass down the code to future generations. Could 
> there a need or demand for having functionality like this in a 
> special-purpose app?
>

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[open-location-code] Re: Using Plus Codes to identify graves in old cemeteries

2019-10-20 Thread Andreas B
Hi George,

you are right, this is something where plus codes could be useful. The size 
of cemeteries should allow to omit the first six or sometimes even eight 
character, leaving a short string like "CF+GHJ" or even just "+GHJ" to 
properly address the site of a specific grave on a cemetery, as long as the 
cemetery's location is known. This code would continue to address a site 
even when the whole cemetery gets redesigned or abandoned, making it more 
useful than "section/row/plot" in the long term.

The question is, what implementation of functionality is really necessary 
for this to be adopted? Individual people can already find out the location 
(and plus code) of a grave using their smartphones and Google Maps, then 
shorten it as necessary and pass down the code to future generations. Could 
there a need or demand for having functionality like this in a 
special-purpose app?

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