Re: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume

2005-03-21 Thread Hans-Gunther Borrmann
On Saturday 19 March 2005 01:25, Wes Chow wrote: I'm having problems with a volume that isn't in the VLDB, but shows up off line with vos listvol: hippo:~# vos listvol hippo /vicepb | grep 20040102 datafiles.20040102536937070 RW5688181 K Off-line hippo:~# vos online

Re: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume

2005-03-21 Thread Wes Chow
The -force flag removes a volume even if it cannot be attached (brought online), which can happen either because the volume is extremely damaged or because the Salvager functioned abnormally. Without this flag, this command cannot remove volumes that are not attachable. See also the

Re: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume

2005-03-21 Thread Wes Chow
Try specifying -server hippo -partition vicepb -id datafiles.20040102 -force Still no dice: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ vos zap -server hippo -partition /vicepb -id datafiles.20040102 -force VLDB: no such entry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ vos listvol hippo /vicepb | grep 20040102 datafiles.20040102

[OpenAFS] Oracle Databases...

2005-03-21 Thread Craig Cook
Is OpenAFS a good filesystem to run an Oracle database on? We are setting up two Sun 880's at the moment. Database design has not been done yet, so I am not sure if it will be read or write intensive. Is AFS better for a mainly read only filesystem? Thanks Craig Cook -- Systems Monitoring

RE: [OpenAFS] Oracle Databases...

2005-03-21 Thread Dexter 'Kim' Kimball
Is OpenAFS a good filesystem to run an Oracle database on? Lousy, actually. No byte range locking, to begin with. Other performance overhead. IIRC Oracle has its own replication mechanism. Kim = Kim (Dexter) Kimball CCRE, Inc.

RE: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume

2005-03-21 Thread Dexter 'Kim' Kimball
Have you tried salvaging the volume? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Elliott Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:14 AM To: openafs-info@openafs.org; Wes Chow Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume On

Re: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume

2005-03-21 Thread Wes Chow
Try replacing the -id datafiles.20040102 with its actual ID. vos zap -server hippo -partition /vicepb -id 536937070 -force That worked, thanks! Wes -- http://www.senortoad.com/~wes/ OpenPGP key = 0xA5CA6644 fingerprint = FDE5 21D8 9D8B 386F 128F DF52 3F52 D582 A5CA 6644

RE: [OpenAFS] can not change a backup or readonly volume

2005-03-21 Thread Dexter 'Kim' Kimball
I'm not sure why you want to create a directory for a fileserver, and assume you understand that it's not necessary and that you have some reason for doing so. Try this: fs lq /afs/mycell fs lq /afs/.mycell I notice in the output you reference: try mounting at /afs/.mycell/etc. Then release

RE: [OpenAFS] Question about append-only directories and ownership of files

2005-03-21 Thread Dexter 'Kim' Kimball
You don't mention the other half of the ACL. Who has wilk permissions? In general AFS doesn't care about ownership/mode bits -- ignores them entirely on directories, but does apply the owner mode bits to all users, including the owner. (Doesn't seem relevant here but sometimes good to know.)

RE: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume

2005-03-21 Thread Dexter 'Kim' Kimball
I thought that if the name of the volume were used as an argument to vos zap that the zap would fail if the volume name couldn't be resolved to an ID via VLDB IOW if I use the numeric ID who needs the VLDB, but if I use the name instead the VLDB entry is required so that the numeric ID can be

RE: [OpenAFS] can't force deletion of off-line volume

2005-03-21 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Dexter 'Kim' Kimball wrote: I thought that if the name of the volume were used as an argument to vos zap that the zap would fail if the volume name couldn't be resolved to an ID via VLDB Well, it shouldn't be able to work otherwise. But I was referring to the case where

Re: [OpenAFS] Question about append-only directories and ownership of files

2005-03-21 Thread Todd M. Lewis
Dexter 'Kim' Kimball wrote: In general AFS doesn't care about ownership/mode bits -- ignores them entirely on directories, Not quite. The owner of a directory has implied administrator rights in that directory. That may be relevant here. Or not. Whatever. --

[OpenAFS] OpenAFS on SPARC

2005-03-21 Thread Gessy Caetano da Silva Junior/LCC/UFMG
Hi, I'm trying compile openafs-1.2.13 on sun ultra1 (sparc64), i'm using gentoo linux but there isn't ebuild with support for sparc. My steps was: #sparc32 /bin/sh #./configure --prefix=/usr --host=sparc-unknown-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share

[OpenAFS] another set of eyes (or three)

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Damon
I'm about to reimage the root drive on an AFS fs db server. It's going from an ancient RH release to RHEL 3 with all new OpenAFS RPMs and such. I am hoping to do it without having to recreate all of the RO volumes on it. I'd really appreciate it if people with experience at this kind of upgrade

[OpenAFS] ptserver attempts free(NULL) with 1.3.79

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Megacz
Hey, I know it's a strictly unstable release, but I'm trying to get 1.3.79 working because I need kernel 2.6. Anyways, everything's working fine except for ptserver, which crashes repeatedly after trying to free(NULL) (and probably other things as well). Any ideas? Is there a quasi-stable

[OpenAFS] non-kerberos authentication mechanisms for afs?

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Megacz
My only gripe with Kerberos is that two non-admin users can't set up a trust/permissions relationship without involving their kerberos admins (ie adding principals), or having a kerberos server in the first place. Sometimes the former just isn't possible (paranoid sysadmins won't create

[OpenAFS] Heartbeat + DRBD + OpenAFS, any suggestions?

2005-03-21 Thread Kyle Moffett
We're currently deploying a highly-available pair of servers for users in one of our labs. The servers use Heartbeat to automatically fail services over from one server to the other when one dies. All of the Kerberos and OpenLDAP services are properly configured and working to automatically

[OpenAFS] CFP: AFS Kerberos Best Practices Workshop 2005

2005-03-21 Thread Esther Filderman
Apologies for the cross posting to those who see this multiple times. Call for Papers and Talks Submission Deadline: May 2, 2005 The

Re: [OpenAFS] Question about append-only directories and ownership of files

2005-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, March 18, 2005 08:57:41 PM -0500 Thomas M. Payerle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this behavior expected? Am I missing something? Is there a way in AFS to have a file be append-only (possibly with creation if missing, but without being readable) that does not depend on the principal

RE: [OpenAFS] Oracle Databases...

2005-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Monday, March 21, 2005 09:53:07 AM -0700 Dexter 'Kim' Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is OpenAFS a good filesystem to run an Oracle database on? Lousy, actually. No byte range locking, to begin with. Other performance overhead. Byte-range locking is really not the core issue here. The

Re: [OpenAFS] another set of eyes (or three)

2005-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Do I need to deinstall it as a DB host before reimaging? How many dbservers do you have? If there are at least three, you can take one down without loss of quorum. Unless the machine will be out of service for such a long time that you will reconfigure clients, there is no real point in

Re: [OpenAFS] Heartbeat + DRBD + OpenAFS, any suggestions?

2005-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:22:44 PM -0500 Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're currently deploying a highly-available pair of servers for users in one of our labs. The servers use Heartbeat to automatically fail services over from one server to the other when one dies. All of the

Re: [OpenAFS] another set of eyes (or three)

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Damon
- Do I need to deinstall it as a DB host before reimaging? How many dbservers do you have? Three, including this one. If there are at least three, you can take one down without loss of quorum. Unless the machine will be out of service for such a long time that you will reconfigure

Re: [OpenAFS] non-kerberos authentication mechanisms for afs?

2005-03-21 Thread Sergio Gelato
* Adam Megacz [2005-03-19 00:42:44 -0800]: My only gripe with Kerberos is that two non-admin users can't set up a trust/permissions relationship without involving their kerberos admins (ie adding principals), or having a kerberos server in the first place. Sometimes the former just isn't

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on SPARC

2005-03-21 Thread Chaskiel M Grundman
--On Monday, March 21, 2005 15:38:53 -0300 Gessy Caetano da Silva Junior/LCC/UFMG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ../linux/spinlock.h:67:1: warning: atomic_dec_and_lock redefined ../linux/modules/sparc64_ksyms.ver:44:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition This implies that your

[OpenAFS] AFS in a solaris 10 zone? How about Linux/Xen VM?

2005-03-21 Thread Dan Pritts
Hi all - I'm looking at various server virtualization techniques and two options that look very interesting are the zones in solaris 10, and Linux/Xen. Anyone know if I can get at the AFS filesystem in either of these? I don't really know anything about the solaris zones so i am not sure what

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS in a solaris 10 zone? How about Linux/Xen VM?

2005-03-21 Thread Ben Staffin
* Dan Pritts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-21 17:42] wibbled: Hi all - I'm looking at various server virtualization techniques and two options that look very interesting are the zones in solaris 10, and Linux/Xen. Anyone know if I can get at the AFS filesystem in either of these? I

[OpenAFS] OpenAFS for Windows March 2005 Status Report

2005-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Altman
With the release today of the major new OpenAFS for Windows release, 1.3.80: http://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-announce/2005/97.html there is also an updated status report: http://web.mit.edu/jaltman/Public/OpenAFS/Reports/Mar-2005-Status-Report.pdf The 1.3.80 is important for

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS in a solaris 10 zone? How about Linux/Xen VM?

2005-03-21 Thread Chris Huebsch
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Dan Pritts wrote: From what I understand of Linux Xen i'd think it *ought* to work but what i can imagine all sorts of pitfalls... I think so too. I have set up an Athlon XP2200+ with 512 MB Ram to host 8 XEN-Instances. Each was running a Heimdal-Server. They were running