Re: [OpenAFS] openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7

2007-11-29 Thread Harald Barth
What's the underlying filesystem? AFS passes through the semantics of metadata operations of the underlying filesystem, and ext* for instance is poor at it. For example xfs on Linux has worked well for us. We are running an old version of AFS.. 1.4.1. Are there any configuration

Re: [OpenAFS-Doc] Re: [OpenAFS] Quick Start Guide updated for Kerberos v5

2007-11-29 Thread Harald Barth
inode is still recommended for Solaris. namei is recommended in all other cases, and generally is the only possible method. I would recommend namei for all new installations. Is there any reason against that which I'm not aware of? Harald. ___

[OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Martin Ginkel
Hi, We use openafs clients on a lot of machines. The local Filesystems are usually reiser. But for the DiskCache we have to install one partition with ext2. Why is that? What's the problem with reiser as cacheFS ? Just curious Martin

[OpenAFS] MacOS X 1.4 (tiger) PPC built of 1.5.27?

2007-11-29 Thread Lars Schimmer
Hi! I' ve updated our PowerPC Mac with latest available OpenAFS version for PPC Mac OS X Tiger, which was 1.5.26. For bad sake, MacOS X just went bad every shutdown and OpenAFS seems to be the reason because of which MacOS X won't shutdown clear and ends in a kernel panic. Is there any

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Harald Barth
We use openafs clients on a lot of machines. The local Filesystems are usually reiser. But for the DiskCache we have to install one partition with ext2. To all my experience, reiserfs is broken. I recommend NOT to use that file system. At all. As a cache file system ext2 is fine, because it

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2007 schrieb ext Harald Barth: We use openafs clients on a lot of machines. The local Filesystems are usually reiser. But for the DiskCache we have to install one partition with ext2. To all my experience, reiserfs is broken. I recommend NOT to use that file

Re: [OpenAFS-Doc] Re: [OpenAFS] Quick Start Guide updated for Kerberos v5

2007-11-29 Thread Douglas E. Engert
Russ Allbery wrote: Jason Edgecombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: chapter1: * about upgrading OS: **Should the namei fileserver be mentioned? Is namei the recommended way? inode is still recommended for Solaris. namei is recommended in all other cases, and generally is the only

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Rob Banz
On Nov 29, 2007, at 07:41, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2007 schrieb ext Harald Barth: We use openafs clients on a lot of machines. The local Filesystems are usually reiser. But for the DiskCache we have to install one partition with ext2. To all my experience,

[OpenAFS] Automatically get AFS-token

2007-11-29 Thread Lara Lloret Iglesias
Hello! I´ve just installed three AFS clients, and everything seems to work fine! The only problem is that I would like to get my afs-token on login, without having to type klog. Any idea? Thank you very much, Lara ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Rob Banz
For a cache partition, at least on other *ixes, the cache partition has always needed special attention because of the way its used by the AFS kernel module. Certain care has to be taken as to do operations in such a way that kernel deadlocks and such are avoided. For example, on Solaris

Re: [OpenAFS] MacOS X 1.4 (tiger) PPC built of 1.5.27?

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Nov 29, 2007 5:58 AM, Lars Schimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I' ve updated our PowerPC Mac with latest available OpenAFS version for PPC Mac OS X Tiger, which was 1.5.26. For bad sake, MacOS X just went bad every shutdown and OpenAFS seems to be the reason because of which MacOS X

Re: [OpenAFS-Doc] Re: [OpenAFS] Quick Start Guide updated for Kerberos v5

2007-11-29 Thread Rob Banz
On Nov 29, 2007, at 08:39, chas williams - CONTRACTOR wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],Russ Allbery writes: ** about fsck: does solaris use inode, namei or both? Is clarification needed? Solaris can use either, so yes, clarification is needed. I'm fairly sure you don't need the

Re: [OpenAFS-Doc] Re: [OpenAFS] Quick Start Guide updated for Kerberos v5

2007-11-29 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],Russ Allbery writes: ** about fsck: does solaris use inode, namei or both? Is clarification needed? Solaris can use either, so yes, clarification is needed. I'm fairly sure you don't need the custom fsck if you use namei. you do not need the custom fsck for

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],Harald Barth wr ites: We use openafs clients on a lot of machines. The local Filesystems are usually reiser. But for the DiskCache we have to install one partition with ext2. To all my experience, reiserfs is broken. I recommend NOT to use that file system. At all.

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Rob Banz wrote: On Nov 29, 2007, at 07:41, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2007 schrieb ext Harald Barth: We use openafs clients on a lot of machines. The local Filesystems are usually reiser. But for the DiskCache we have to install one partition with ext2. To all my

Re: [OpenAFS] MacOS X 1.4 (tiger) PPC built of 1.5.27?

2007-11-29 Thread Lars Schimmer
Derrick Brashear wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 5:58 AM, Lars Schimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I' ve updated our PowerPC Mac with latest available OpenAFS version for PPC Mac OS X Tiger, which was 1.5.26. For bad sake, MacOS X just went bad every shutdown and OpenAFS seems to be the reason

Re: [OpenAFS] MacOS X 1.4 (tiger) PPC built of 1.5.27?

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Nov 29, 2007 9:01 AM, Lars Schimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derrick Brashear wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 5:58 AM, Lars Schimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I' ve updated our PowerPC Mac with latest available OpenAFS version for PPC Mac OS X Tiger, which was 1.5.26. For bad sake,

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Nov 29, 2007 8:57 AM, Rob Banz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a cache partition, at least on other *ixes, the cache partition has always needed special attention because of the way its used by the AFS kernel module. Certain care has to be taken as to do operations in such a way

Re: [OpenAFS-Doc] Re: [OpenAFS] Quick Start Guide updated for Kerberos v5

2007-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Altman
chas williams - CONTRACTOR wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],Russ Allbery writes: ** about fsck: does solaris use inode, namei or both? Is clarification needed? Solaris can use either, so yes, clarification is needed. I'm fairly sure you don't need the custom fsck if you use namei.

[OpenAFS] openafs partition - how to increase

2007-11-29 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I'd like to resize (enlarge) the ext2-partition on which e.g. /vicepa is mounted. I know how to enlarge an ext2 partition using Linux tools, but how does OpenAFS react to this situtation? Does it use the additional space or is there any danger OpenAFS gets confused? Many thanks for a hint,

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs partition - how to increase

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Nov 29, 2007 10:31 AM, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to resize (enlarge) the ext2-partition on which e.g. /vicepa is mounted. I know how to enlarge an ext2 partition using Linux tools, but how does OpenAFS react to this situtation? Does it use the additional

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs partition - how to increase

2007-11-29 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Nov 29, 2007, at 10:38 , Derrick Brashear wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 10:31 AM, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] aachen.de wrote: I'd like to resize (enlarge) the ext2-partition on which e.g. /vicepa is mounted. It doesn't care, and won't use it unless you increase the number in the

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs partition - how to increase

2007-11-29 Thread Steve Devine
Derrick Brashear wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 10:31 AM, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to resize (enlarge) the ext2-partition on which e.g. /vicepa is mounted. I know how to enlarge an ext2 partition using Linux tools, but how

Re: [OpenAFS] Automatically get AFS-token

2007-11-29 Thread Douglas E. Engert
Lara Lloret Iglesias wrote: Hello! I´ve just installed three AFS clients, and everything seems to work fine! The only problem is that I would like to get my afs-token on login, without having to type klog. Any idea? Yes use pam_krb5 and pam_afs_session. I am assuming that your site has

Re: [OpenAFS] MS Word crashing when opening files, 1.5.27 client

2007-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Jeffrey Altman wrote: If the files are truly intended for read-only use, store them in a directory that provides only 'rl' access to the end users or store them in a .readonly volume. In both of those cases the AFS Cache Manager knows that the user cannot obtain a lock on the file and will

Re: [OpenAFS] Automatically get AFS-token

2007-11-29 Thread Michael C Garrison
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Lara Lloret Iglesias wrote: Hello! I´ve just installed three AFS clients, and everything seems to work fine! The only problem is that I would like to get my afs-token on login, without having to type klog. Any idea? Use a pam module, such as Russ' pam-afs-session:

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs partition - how to increase

2007-11-29 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 29 November 2007 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: I'd like to resize (enlarge) the ext2-partition on which e.g. /vicepa is mounted. Does it use the additional space or is there any danger OpenAFS gets confused? It will happily use the additional space. Bye... Dirk

RE: [OpenAFS] openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7

2007-11-29 Thread Jerry Normandin
Thanks everybody for your input! I just started my postion here and inherited this AFS deployment. It was great that the previous people chose AFS, but they deployed it wrong. I decided on using the XFS file system, Also I will be upgrading to 1.4.7 The very first day I was here I got queries

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs partition - how to increase

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Nov 29, 2007 10:42 AM, Steve Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derrick Brashear wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 10:31 AM, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to resize (enlarge) the ext2-partition on which e.g. /vicepa is

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Nov 29, 2007 12:52 PM, Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everybody for your input! I just started my postion here and inherited this AFS deployment. It was great that the previous people chose AFS, but they deployed it wrong. I decided on using the XFS file system, Also I

[OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-29 Thread Smith, Matt
After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7, and a review of a thread[1] from July, I'm wondering if there is a definitive recommendation for which file system to use on Linux AFS file servers. Ext3, XFS, JFS, something else? Thanks all, -Matt [1]

Re: [OpenAFS] What's the problem with reiser

2007-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Jason Edgecombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fascinating. I did not know of UFS logging issue on the cache partition. Strangely, I haven't heard of any issues. does ext3 have this issue as well? No, ext3 is fine. UFS logging is also fine provided that nothing else is writing to the same

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Smith, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7, and a review of a thread[1] from July, I'm wondering if there is a definitive recommendation for which file system to use on Linux AFS file servers. Ext3, XFS, JFS, something else? It shouldn't

Re: [OpenAFS] Slow AFS performance

2007-11-29 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Dale Ghent wrote: On Nov 28, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Jason Edgecombe wrote: I'm experiencing poor AFS performance on under Sparc solaris 9 09/05HW running Openafs server 1.4.1 on a Sun StorageTeck 3511 Fibre channel to SATA array At first, I thought that having UFS logging disabled was the

[OpenAFS] 1.4.5 namei on solaris 9 sparc requires AlwaysAttach for vice partitions

2007-11-29 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Hi all, In my sordid saga to get a Sun fibre channel array working well with AFS, I found the following: When I upgraded the server to 1.4.5 namei, the fileserver would not mount the /vicep? partitions without doing a touch /vicep?/AlwaysAttach first. These are dedicated partitions on separate

Re: [OpenAFS] MS Word crashing when opening files, 1.5.27 client

2007-11-29 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 10:59 AM 11/29/2007, Jeffrey Altman wrote: Therefore, if you are providing files to be used simply as read only templates, they should be stored in AFS in a manner that indicates to the AFS client that they are in fact readonly so that the cache manager knows it is safe to fake the locks

Re: [OpenAFS] Slow AFS performance

2007-11-29 Thread Rob Banz
ok, I'm now some better performance out of my FC array. vos move of a 4.4GB volume from one disk in the FC array to another disk in the array only took 16 minutes (4.6MB/s). Derrick's suggestion of upgrading to 1.4.5 with namei did the trick. Unfortunately, I don't think I can upgrade the

Re: [OpenAFS] 1.4.5 namei on solaris 9 sparc requires AlwaysAttach for vice partitions

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Nov 29, 2007 3:34 PM, Jason Edgecombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, In my sordid saga to get a Sun fibre channel array working well with AFS, I found the following: When I upgraded the server to 1.4.5 namei, the fileserver would not mount the /vicep? partitions without doing a touch

Re: [OpenAFS] 1.4.5 namei on solaris 9 sparc requires AlwaysAttach for vice partitions

2007-11-29 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Derrick Brashear wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 3:34 PM, Jason Edgecombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, In my sordid saga to get a Sun fibre channel array working well with AFS, I found the following: When I upgraded the server to 1.4.5 namei, the

Re: [OpenAFS] 1.4.5 namei on solaris 9 sparc requires AlwaysAttach for vice partitions

2007-11-29 Thread Derrick Brashear
Does anyone know why this would be happening? Probably a bug in the what's acceptable as a vice partition logic... which I thought i fixed before 1.4.5; i bet i committed the wrong thing (because i tested it) Is it safe to run like this? yup Should I file a bug?

Re: [OpenAFS] 1.4.5 namei on solaris 9 sparc requires AlwaysAttach for vice partitions

2007-11-29 Thread Hartmut Reuter
I also was today surprised when I started the freshly compiled 1.4.5 fileserver on Solaris and it didn't attach any partition. There was a change between 1.4.4 and 1.4.5 in favour of zfs, but a unfortunately broken: /* Ignore non ufs or non read/write partitions */ if

Re: [OpenAFS] MS Word crashing when opening files, 1.5.27 client

2007-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Rodney M. Dyer wrote: At 10:59 AM 11/29/2007, Jeffrey Altman wrote: Therefore, if you are providing files to be used simply as read only templates, they should be stored in AFS in a manner that indicates to the AFS client that they are in fact readonly so that the cache manager knows it is

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-29 Thread Hartmut Reuter
Smith, Matt wrote: After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7, and a review of a thread[1] from July, I'm wondering if there is a definitive recommendation for which file system to use on Linux AFS file servers. Ext3, XFS, JFS, something else? Thanks all, -Matt [1]

Re: [OpenAFS] MS Word crashing when opening files, 1.5.27 client

2007-11-29 Thread Hans Melgers
Thanks Jeffrey, snip Therefore, if you are providing files to be used simply as read only templates, they should be stored in AFS in a manner that indicates to the AFS client that they are in fact readonly so that the cache manager knows it is safe to fake the locks locally. Would this also be

Re: [OpenAFS] MS Word crashing when opening files, 1.5.27 client

2007-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Hans Melgers wrote: Thanks Jeffrey, snip Therefore, if you are providing files to be used simply as read only templates, they should be stored in AFS in a manner that indicates to the AFS client that they are in fact readonly so that the cache manager knows it is safe to fake the locks