RE: [OpenAFS] Preferred way to do backup? [Was] Re: best way to control butc tape host process?

2010-12-17 Thread Assarsson, Emil
Hi Andrew, Thank you for your suggestion. I actually ran into a problem pretty fast after setting it up via bos. Are there a better method of doing backups now days than using the backup utilities? (It's a totally different question so I updated the subject.) -- Emil -Original

Re: [OpenAFS] Preferred way to do backup? [Was] Re: best way to control butc tape host process?

2010-12-17 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Assarsson, Emil emil.assars...@sonyericsson.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Thank you for your suggestion. I actually ran into a problem pretty fast after setting it up via bos. Are there a better method of doing backups now days than using the backup utilities?

[OpenAFS] AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread John Tang Boyland
Does anyone know of a sudo like command for AFS admin commands? admindo vos release pkg.foo It would be nice, but not essential to have the token stick around for 5 minutes in case you need to do another admindo soon afterwards. Regards, John

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Anders Magnusson
John Tang Boyland wrote: Does anyone know of a sudo like command for AFS admin commands? admindo vos release pkg.foo It would be nice, but not essential to have the token stick around for 5 minutes in case you need to do another admindo soon afterwards. Make a simple script

[OpenAFS] Re: AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:59:31 +0100 Anders Magnusson ra...@ltu.se wrote: John Tang Boyland wrote: Does anyone know of a sudo like command for AFS admin commands? admindo vos release pkg.foo It would be nice, but not essential to have the token stick around for 5 minutes in case you

[OpenAFS] Re: Preferred way to do backup?

2010-12-17 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:41:16 -0500 Derrick Brashear sha...@gmail.com wrote: Are there a better method of doing backups now days than using the backup utilities? That's a subjective question. It really depends on what else you have at your site, what you want to back up to, what you're

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Anders Magnusson
Andrew Deason wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:59:31 +0100 Anders Magnusson ra...@ltu.se wrote: John Tang Boyland wrote: Does anyone know of a sudo like command for AFS admin commands? admindo vos release pkg.foo It would be nice, but not essential to have the token stick around

[OpenAFS] Re: AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:35:38 +0100 Anders Magnusson ra...@ltu.se wrote: This doesn't require you to enter a password for a release, though, which I assumed John wanted (it might help to say which specific aspects of 'sudo' you're looking for). That is, you can still 'kinit foo/admin' and

RE: [OpenAFS] Re: Preferred way to do backup?

2010-12-17 Thread Assarsson, Emil
Thanks all for the suggestions :-) I found this on internet http://linuxbox.com/drupal/files/downloads/afs_backup_afsbp2005.pdf that seems to bring up some of the solutions. Now I have something to do this weekend too :-P -- Emil -Original Message- From:

Re: [OpenAFS] Preferred way to do backup? [Was] Re: best way to control butc tape host process?

2010-12-17 Thread Matt W. Benjamin
Hi, I may be misremembering here, but my recollection of the current Amanda and Bacula solutions is that they are somewhat primitive, e.g., compared with TiBs or TSM integrations. (I think Russ has talked a not infrequently about further work on Bacula integration would be desirable.)

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Preferred way to do backup?

2010-12-17 Thread Matt W. Benjamin
FYI, I'm -actually- and AFS backup lamer and archive volume dumps in a Bacula repo. Sorry. Matt - Emil Assarsson emil.assars...@sonyericsson.com wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions :-) I found this on internet http://linuxbox.com/drupal/files/downloads/afs_backup_afsbp2005.pdf

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread John Tang Boyland
Anders Magnusson ra...@ltu.se wrote: ] John Tang Boyland wrote: ] Does anyone know of a sudo like command for AFS admin commands? ] admindo vos release pkg.foo ] It would be nice, but not essential to have the token stick around ] for 5 minutes in case you need to do another admindo soon

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag 17 Dezember 2010, um 15:29:41 schrieb John Tang Boyland: Does anyone know of a sudo like command for AFS admin commands? Errh, what about sudo? You could create a special kerberos principal with a random key (scripts), which is stored in a keytab (/etc/scripts.keytab). Also make it

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread omalleys
We had a program we called afs-sudo. I don't know the origin. but I don't think it was passwordless. It appears there might be afs support in sudo already. http://www.sfr-fresh.com/unix/misc/sudo-1.7.4p4.tar.gz:a/sudo-1.7.4p4/auth/afs.c Quoting Andrew Deason adea...@sinenomine.net: On Fri,

[OpenAFS] Re: AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:35:07 -0500 omall...@msu.edu wrote: It appears there might be afs support in sudo already. http://www.sfr-fresh.com/unix/misc/sudo-1.7.4p4.tar.gz:a/sudo-1.7.4p4/auth/afs.c That appears to be for authenticating to kaserver for 'sudo' commands instead of PAM or whatever

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread omalleys
This should be a part of the afs permissions just in general. Ours was written in 2k and potentially updated once a long time before we had krb5 support and isn't passwordless. It uses an environment variable. It compiled against the 1.4.2 afs source. I can ask if I can donate it, if it

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Chris (Ducky) Chapin
I wrote an afs sudo kind of thing around 2003 or so mainly intended to replace the adm stuff that ceased working after a server upgrade. It mostly handles vos releases for end-users but definitely not limited to that. Aside from sudo in the name and the fact that it handles elevated

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Jim Rowan
On Dec 17, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Chris (Ducky) Chapin wrote: Yeah, the auth is definitely a kluge and can't do anything kas releated, but it works for the ~500 requests/day it gets. Not sure how ready the code is for public consumption, though. ;) Several hundred of us think that it works

Re: [OpenAFS] AFS version of sudo for admin ?

2010-12-17 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Chris (Ducky) Chapin ccha...@qualcomm.com wrote: I wrote an afs sudo kind of thing around 2003 or so mainly intended to replace the adm stuff that ceased working after a server upgrade. It mostly handles  vos releases for end-users but definitely not limited to

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Redundant Internet links

2010-12-17 Thread Jaap Winius
Quoting Andrew Deason adea...@sinenomine.net: ... We don't provide the tools for a split-horizon vldb (yet, anyway). Actually, if we're all going to move to IPv6 anyway, of what use would that be? To be clear, the fileserver does not become readonly; what becomes readonly are the

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Redundant Internet links

2010-12-17 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Jaap Winius jwin...@umrk.nl wrote: Quoting Andrew Deason adea...@sinenomine.net: ... We don't provide the tools for a split-horizon vldb (yet, anyway). Actually, if we're all going to move to IPv6 anyway, of what use would that be? ipv4 isn't going away