Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-10 Thread Ted Creedon
Hardware + software

Russ stated that the PPC arch. would be best  .


Tedc

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Hi, Tedd.

As I understand it, the ask from IBM would be for the donation of one
AIX license for the purposes of an OpenAFS buildbot?

I'm not finding anything from Russ in this thread.

Thanks.

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 11:04:51PM +, Ted Creedon wrote:
> 1. I'l be willing to plead our case w/IBM, any shortcut names/emails?
> 2. What is the desired configuration (hw & sw)?
> 3. N.b I'm on a comcast dhcp line, fast & stable as long as there are no 24 
> hr shutdowns, I use dyndns to host my domain creedon.biz.
> 4. I have several boxen on an 3KVA UPS - works fine, lots of power avail.
> 5. My shop has A/C so servers  run continuously 24/7 year 'round.
> 6. After Russ's comments is it all going to  be worthwhile?
> 7. I have 3 afs servers on line (well as soon as  I can get afs re-installed)
> 8. I have geronimo.creedon.biz as a  spare build machine.
> time nice make -j500 takes 30 sec.  Its a duplicate of ookpik.creedon.biz 
> dual xeon 64Gig, etc).
> (ookpik has a xeon phi board installed if anyone wants to play).
> 9. I built/maintain all my own servers (since 1967).
> 10. Backups are the user's resp. although my servers could easily host 
> another afs domain.
>
> 
> From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org  on 
> behalf of Dave Botsch 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 10:22:54 AM
> To: openafs-info@openafs.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1
>
> Hi, Ted et al.
>
> Please see below...
>
> On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:25:35PM +, Ted Creedon wrote:
> > I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
> > available.
> > and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.
> >
> > I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K
> >
> > with a little effort...
> >
> > IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
> > tedc
> >
>
> If you are willing to host on the HW mentioned above, as a non-profit,
> the Foundation can certainly make the ask of IBM. We would just need a
> bit more detail on the exact ask.
>
>
> > If what you meant was for the foundation
> > itself to pay for virtual build servers,
> > all that takes if for the foundation to
> > decide to spend real money.  I presume
> > they have considered that, but it might
> > be worth asking the question explicitly
> > if it has not been explicitly answered
> > (I really have not been following the
> > foundations activities).
> >
>
> W.r.t. build hosts, we've been working with folk on attempting to get a
> Windows build host or two up. Now that we are into Feb 2017, I need to
> follow up on those efforts.
>
> If there's an ask for the Foundation to spend $$ on something
> particular, be it build hosts, or even hiring someone to work on, say,
> the AIX port, please submit a formal ask to foundat...@openafs.org .
> Contigent on funds, we will really consider it. And, donating any type
> of funding towards this (for example, your org donates a $10K stipend
> towards us hiring an independant contractor to work on AIX would go a
> long way).
>
> Thanks.
>
> > It might not even cost a lot (as I recall,
> > there are various on-demand builder
> > spin-up capabilities in at least some
> > SCMs so it is free until the commit),
> > but it is all work someone would have
> > to research.
> --
> 
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-10 Thread Dave Botsch
Hi, Tedd.

As I understand it, the ask from IBM would be for the donation of one
AIX license for the purposes of an OpenAFS buildbot? 

I'm not finding anything from Russ in this thread.

Thanks.

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 11:04:51PM +, Ted Creedon wrote:
> 1. I'l be willing to plead our case w/IBM, any shortcut names/emails?
> 2. What is the desired configuration (hw & sw)?
> 3. N.b I'm on a comcast dhcp line, fast & stable as long as there are no 24 
> hr shutdowns, I use dyndns to host my domain creedon.biz.
> 4. I have several boxen on an 3KVA UPS - works fine, lots of power avail.
> 5. My shop has A/C so servers  run continuously 24/7 year 'round.
> 6. After Russ's comments is it all going to  be worthwhile?
> 7. I have 3 afs servers on line (well as soon as  I can get afs re-installed)
> 8. I have geronimo.creedon.biz as a  spare build machine.
> time nice make -j500 takes 30 sec.  Its a duplicate of ookpik.creedon.biz 
> dual xeon 64Gig, etc).
> (ookpik has a xeon phi board installed if anyone wants to play).
> 9. I built/maintain all my own servers (since 1967).
> 10. Backups are the user's resp. although my servers could easily host 
> another afs domain.
> 
> 
> From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org  on 
> behalf of Dave Botsch 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 10:22:54 AM
> To: openafs-info@openafs.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1
> 
> Hi, Ted et al.
> 
> Please see below...
> 
> On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:25:35PM +, Ted Creedon wrote:
> > I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
> > available.
> > and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.
> >
> > I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K
> >
> > with a little effort...
> >
> > IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
> > tedc
> >
> 
> If you are willing to host on the HW mentioned above, as a non-profit,
> the Foundation can certainly make the ask of IBM. We would just need a
> bit more detail on the exact ask.
> 
> 
> > If what you meant was for the foundation
> > itself to pay for virtual build servers,
> > all that takes if for the foundation to
> > decide to spend real money.  I presume
> > they have considered that, but it might
> > be worth asking the question explicitly
> > if it has not been explicitly answered
> > (I really have not been following the
> > foundations activities).
> >
> 
> W.r.t. build hosts, we've been working with folk on attempting to get a
> Windows build host or two up. Now that we are into Feb 2017, I need to
> follow up on those efforts.
> 
> If there's an ask for the Foundation to spend $$ on something
> particular, be it build hosts, or even hiring someone to work on, say,
> the AIX port, please submit a formal ask to foundat...@openafs.org .
> Contigent on funds, we will really consider it. And, donating any type
> of funding towards this (for example, your org donates a $10K stipend
> towards us hiring an independant contractor to work on AIX would go a
> long way).
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > It might not even cost a lot (as I recall,
> > there are various on-demand builder
> > spin-up capabilities in at least some
> > SCMs so it is free until the commit),
> > but it is all work someone would have
> > to research.
> --
> 
> David William Botsch
> OpenAFS Foundation Board
> bot...@cnf.cornell.edu
> 
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-08 Thread Ted Creedon
1. I'l be willing to plead our case w/IBM, any shortcut names/emails?
2. What is the desired configuration (hw & sw)?
3. N.b I'm on a comcast dhcp line, fast & stable as long as there are no 24 hr 
shutdowns, I use dyndns to host my domain creedon.biz.
4. I have several boxen on an 3KVA UPS - works fine, lots of power avail.
5. My shop has A/C so servers  run continuously 24/7 year 'round.
6. After Russ's comments is it all going to  be worthwhile?
7. I have 3 afs servers on line (well as soon as  I can get afs re-installed)
8. I have geronimo.creedon.biz as a  spare build machine.
time nice make -j500 takes 30 sec.  Its a duplicate of ookpik.creedon.biz dual 
xeon 64Gig, etc).
(ookpik has a xeon phi board installed if anyone wants to play).
9. I built/maintain all my own servers (since 1967).
10. Backups are the user's resp. although my servers could easily host another 
afs domain.


From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org  on behalf 
of Dave Botsch 
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 10:22:54 AM
To: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

Hi, Ted et al.

Please see below...

On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:25:35PM +, Ted Creedon wrote:
> I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
> available.
> and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.
>
> I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K
>
> with a little effort...
>
> IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
> tedc
>

If you are willing to host on the HW mentioned above, as a non-profit,
the Foundation can certainly make the ask of IBM. We would just need a
bit more detail on the exact ask.


> If what you meant was for the foundation
> itself to pay for virtual build servers,
> all that takes if for the foundation to
> decide to spend real money.  I presume
> they have considered that, but it might
> be worth asking the question explicitly
> if it has not been explicitly answered
> (I really have not been following the
> foundations activities).
>

W.r.t. build hosts, we've been working with folk on attempting to get a
Windows build host or two up. Now that we are into Feb 2017, I need to
follow up on those efforts.

If there's an ask for the Foundation to spend $$ on something
particular, be it build hosts, or even hiring someone to work on, say,
the AIX port, please submit a formal ask to foundat...@openafs.org .
Contigent on funds, we will really consider it. And, donating any type
of funding towards this (for example, your org donates a $10K stipend
towards us hiring an independant contractor to work on AIX would go a
long way).

Thanks.

> It might not even cost a lot (as I recall,
> there are various on-demand builder
> spin-up capabilities in at least some
> SCMs so it is free until the commit),
> but it is all work someone would have
> to research.
--

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bot...@cnf.cornell.edu

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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-08 Thread Dave Botsch
Hi, Ted et al.

Please see below...

On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:25:35PM +, Ted Creedon wrote:
> I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
> available.
> and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.
> 
> I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K
> 
> with a little effort...
> 
> IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
> tedc
> 

If you are willing to host on the HW mentioned above, as a non-profit,
the Foundation can certainly make the ask of IBM. We would just need a
bit more detail on the exact ask.

 
> If what you meant was for the foundation
> itself to pay for virtual build servers,
> all that takes if for the foundation to
> decide to spend real money.  I presume
> they have considered that, but it might
> be worth asking the question explicitly
> if it has not been explicitly answered
> (I really have not been following the
> foundations activities).
> 

W.r.t. build hosts, we've been working with folk on attempting to get a
Windows build host or two up. Now that we are into Feb 2017, I need to
follow up on those efforts.

If there's an ask for the Foundation to spend $$ on something
particular, be it build hosts, or even hiring someone to work on, say,
the AIX port, please submit a formal ask to foundat...@openafs.org .
Contigent on funds, we will really consider it. And, donating any type
of funding towards this (for example, your org donates a $10K stipend
towards us hiring an independant contractor to work on AIX would go a
long way).

Thanks.

> It might not even cost a lot (as I recall,
> there are various on-demand builder
> spin-up capabilities in at least some
> SCMs so it is free until the commit),
> but it is all work someone would have
> to research.
-- 

David William Botsch
OpenAFS Foundation Board
bot...@cnf.cornell.edu

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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-07 Thread Stephan Wiesand

On Feb 7, 2017, at 20:39 , Brandon Allbery wrote:

> You can't sensibly virtualize IBM POWER / PowerPC architecture on Intel CPUs. 
> (Or even "at all"; I think the closest you get is qemu's PrEP which will not 
> boot AIX.)

Thank you Brandon!

From what I read, Power-VM would probably do the trick. Alas, it seems to 
require a POWER host and be a proprietary product. Which is just what I meant 
when writing "just as hard to find". I'm not aware of any other solution. Well, 
supposedly you can rent AIX VMs in some clouds.

But ultimately, Ben's got the killer argument. If we had the human resources, 
anything else could probably be sorted out.

- Stephan

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org [mailto:openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org] 
> On Behalf Of Ted Creedon
> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 4:26 PM
> To: openafs-info@openafs.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1
> 
> I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
> available.
> and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.
> 
> I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K
> 
> with a little effort...
> 
> IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
> tedc
> 
> ________
> From: Gary Buhrmaster 
> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 10:24 AM
> To: Ted Creedon
> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1
> 
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Ted Creedon  wrote:
>> why not use vm's for all non linux builds?
> 
> If what you meant was for the foundation itself to pay for virtual build 
> servers, all that takes if for the foundation to decide to spend real money.  
> I presume they have considered that, but it might be worth asking the 
> question explicitly if it has not been explicitly answered (I really have not 
> been following the foundations activities).
> 
> It might not even cost a lot (as I recall, there are various on-demand 
> builder spin-up capabilities in at least some SCMs so it is free until the 
> commit), but it is all work someone would have to research.
> 
> I would not be at all surprised if the
> commercial companies providing support
> have not already moved in the direction
> of cloud based virtual builders (makes
> little sense to own a $10K server for
> occasional builds), but that is for their own customers.
> 
> If you mean architecture emulation, it can be very slow (although might be 
> acceptable), but the bigger problem may be licensing of the OS and the 
> compilers.  Last I knew AIX (where this started) is licensed software, and so 
> is XLC (if using the IBM compiler is required for kernel modules).

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RE: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-07 Thread Brandon Allbery
You can't sensibly virtualize IBM POWER / PowerPC architecture on Intel CPUs. 
(Or even "at all"; I think the closest you get is qemu's PrEP which will not 
boot AIX.)

-Original Message-
From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org [mailto:openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org] On 
Behalf Of Ted Creedon
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 4:26 PM
To: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
available.
and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.

I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K

with a little effort...

IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
tedc


From: Gary Buhrmaster 
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 10:24 AM
To: Ted Creedon
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Ted Creedon  wrote:
> why not use vm's for all non linux builds?

If what you meant was for the foundation itself to pay for virtual build 
servers, all that takes if for the foundation to decide to spend real money.  I 
presume they have considered that, but it might be worth asking the question 
explicitly if it has not been explicitly answered (I really have not been 
following the foundations activities).

It might not even cost a lot (as I recall, there are various on-demand builder 
spin-up capabilities in at least some SCMs so it is free until the commit), but 
it is all work someone would have to research.

I would not be at all surprised if the
commercial companies providing support
have not already moved in the direction
of cloud based virtual builders (makes
little sense to own a $10K server for
occasional builds), but that is for their own customers.

If you mean architecture emulation, it can be very slow (although might be 
acceptable), but the bigger problem may be licensing of the OS and the 
compilers.  Last I knew AIX (where this started) is licensed software, and so 
is XLC (if using the IBM compiler is required for kernel modules).
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-06 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Stephan Wiesand wrote:
> 
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 18:34 , Ted Creedon wrote:
> 
> > why not use vm's for all non linux builds?
> 
> Because it will be just about as hard to find a system capable of hosting 
> those VMs?
> 
> Most, if not all, Linux build slaves are VMs. So were the Windows ones.
> 
> Looks like it has largely been forgotten already that virtualizing anything 
> not x86[_64] still isn't quite as trivial?

It's also worth noting that without someone actively using and/or caring
about a platform, it is unlikely to receive the attention it would need
in order to remain viable.  I.e., not necessarily just hosting a build
machine, but also noticing when builds fail and following up to get
issues fixed.

Even if we could do cross-architecture emulation and get a free license
for the OS, we'd still need someone to care about having it working.

-Ben
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-06 Thread Ted Creedon
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I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
available.
and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.

I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K

with a little effort...

IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
tedc


From: Gary Buhrmaster 
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 10:24 AM
To: Ted Creedon
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Ted Creedon  wrote:
> why not use vm's for all non linux builds?

If what you meant was for the foundation
itself to pay for virtual build servers,
all that takes if for the foundation to
decide to spend real money.  I presume
they have considered that, but it might
be worth asking the question explicitly
if it has not been explicitly answered
(I really have not been following the
foundations activities).

It might not even cost a lot (as I recall,
there are various on-demand builder
spin-up capabilities in at least some
SCMs so it is free until the commit),
but it is all work someone would have
to research.

I would not be at all surprised if the
commercial companies providing support
have not already moved in the direction
of cloud based virtual builders (makes
little sense to own a $10K server for
occasional builds), but that is for their
own customers.

If you mean architecture emulation, it can
be very slow (although might be acceptable),
but the bigger problem may be licensing of
the OS and the compilers.  Last I knew
AIX (where this started) is licensed software,
and so is XLC (if using the IBM compiler
is required for kernel modules).
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-06 Thread Ted Creedon
I just happen to have a spare dual xeon 64gb linux box that could be made 
available.
and smaller MAC w/ parallels on it.

I also have a dual 64gb xeon w/ a xeon phi card in it too. cost ~$3K

with a little effort...

IBM generally  waives license fees for non profits.
tedc


From: Gary Buhrmaster 
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 10:24 AM
To: Ted Creedon
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Ted Creedon  wrote:
> why not use vm's for all non linux builds?

If what you meant was for the foundation
itself to pay for virtual build servers,
all that takes if for the foundation to
decide to spend real money.  I presume
they have considered that, but it might
be worth asking the question explicitly
if it has not been explicitly answered
(I really have not been following the
foundations activities).

It might not even cost a lot (as I recall,
there are various on-demand builder
spin-up capabilities in at least some
SCMs so it is free until the commit),
but it is all work someone would have
to research.

I would not be at all surprised if the
commercial companies providing support
have not already moved in the direction
of cloud based virtual builders (makes
little sense to own a $10K server for
occasional builds), but that is for their
own customers.

If you mean architecture emulation, it can
be very slow (although might be acceptable),
but the bigger problem may be licensing of
the OS and the compilers.  Last I knew
AIX (where this started) is licensed software,
and so is XLC (if using the IBM compiler
is required for kernel modules).
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-06 Thread Stephan Wiesand

On Feb 6, 2017, at 18:34 , Ted Creedon wrote:

> why not use vm's for all non linux builds?

Because it will be just about as hard to find a system capable of hosting those 
VMs?

Most, if not all, Linux build slaves are VMs. So were the Windows ones.

Looks like it has largely been forgotten already that virtualizing anything not 
x86[_64] still isn't quite as trivial?

- Stephan

> 
> From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org  on 
> behalf of Pascal Salet 
> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 5:07 AM
> To: openafs-info@openafs.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1
> 
>>> I would be very grateful for any advice on this matter.
>> 
>> Pascal,
>> 
>> To the best of my knowledge there has been no active development of
>> OpenAFS on any AIX release since January 2015.  At that time the AIX 6
>> build machine was removed from the build farm because the organization
>> that provided it for many years could no longer afford to do so.
>> 
>> It does not surprise me if over the last two years there has been
>> drift between OpenAFS and AIX; especially a new major release of AIX.
>> 
>> To answer your question, I am unaware of anyone that has installed
>> OpenAFS on AIX 7.1.
>> 
>> If you can provide more details on the failure, perhaps the community
>> can assist?
>> 
>> If the ability to use OpenAFS on AIX 7.1 is important to your
>> institution, perhaps it would be willing to provide a build host for use
>> by the developer community.
>> 
>> Jeffrey Altman
> 
> Jeffrey,
> 
> thank you very much for clarifying this.
> 
> I will inquire if the university can provide a build-host with AIX7 on
> our former PowerPC-server. This may or may not be feasible, according to
> administrative policies or product licenses.
> 
> The options used are
> ##
> ./configure -with-afs-sysname=rs_aix61 --enable-tivoli-tsm \\
> --enable-transarc-paths --disable-pam --includedir=/usr/include
> ##
> 
> After copying the binaries manually to /usr/afs/ and /usr/vice/etc/
> according to
> https://wiki.openafs.org/archive/HowToBuildOpenAFSFromSource/
> and executing rc.afs, the server freezes and reboots.
> 
> Pascal
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-06 Thread Ted Creedon
why not use vm's for all non linux builds?

From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org  on behalf 
of Pascal Salet 
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 5:07 AM
To: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

>> I would be very grateful for any advice on this matter.
>
> Pascal,
>
> To the best of my knowledge there has been no active development of
> OpenAFS on any AIX release since January 2015.  At that time the AIX 6
> build machine was removed from the build farm because the organization
> that provided it for many years could no longer afford to do so.
>
> It does not surprise me if over the last two years there has been
> drift between OpenAFS and AIX; especially a new major release of AIX.
>
> To answer your question, I am unaware of anyone that has installed
> OpenAFS on AIX 7.1.
>
> If you can provide more details on the failure, perhaps the community
> can assist?
>
> If the ability to use OpenAFS on AIX 7.1 is important to your
> institution, perhaps it would be willing to provide a build host for use
> by the developer community.
>
> Jeffrey Altman

Jeffrey,

thank you very much for clarifying this.

I will inquire if the university can provide a build-host with AIX7 on
our former PowerPC-server. This may or may not be feasible, according to
administrative policies or product licenses.

The options used are
##
./configure -with-afs-sysname=rs_aix61 --enable-tivoli-tsm \\
--enable-transarc-paths --disable-pam --includedir=/usr/include
##

After copying the binaries manually to /usr/afs/ and /usr/vice/etc/
according to
https://wiki.openafs.org/archive/HowToBuildOpenAFSFromSource/
and executing rc.afs, the server freezes and reboots.

Pascal
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-06 Thread Pascal Salet

I would be very grateful for any advice on this matter.


Pascal,

To the best of my knowledge there has been no active development of
OpenAFS on any AIX release since January 2015.  At that time the AIX 6
build machine was removed from the build farm because the organization
that provided it for many years could no longer afford to do so.

It does not surprise me if over the last two years there has been
drift between OpenAFS and AIX; especially a new major release of AIX.

To answer your question, I am unaware of anyone that has installed
OpenAFS on AIX 7.1.

If you can provide more details on the failure, perhaps the community
can assist?

If the ability to use OpenAFS on AIX 7.1 is important to your
institution, perhaps it would be willing to provide a build host for use
by the developer community.

Jeffrey Altman


Jeffrey,

thank you very much for clarifying this.

I will inquire if the university can provide a build-host with AIX7 on 
our former PowerPC-server. This may or may not be feasible, according to 
administrative policies or product licenses.


The options used are
##
./configure -with-afs-sysname=rs_aix61 --enable-tivoli-tsm \\
--enable-transarc-paths --disable-pam --includedir=/usr/include
##

After copying the binaries manually to /usr/afs/ and /usr/vice/etc/
according to
https://wiki.openafs.org/archive/HowToBuildOpenAFSFromSource/
and executing rc.afs, the server freezes and reboots.

Pascal
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Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.20.1 on AIX 7.1

2017-02-02 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 2/2/2017 9:46 AM, Pascal Salet wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> we used OpenAFS on AIX 6.1, and upgraded to AIX 7.1.
> 
> openafs-1.6.20.1 compiles on AIX 7.1, but fails to install.
> 
> I'd like to kindly ask if OpenAFS is known to install on AIX 7.1, and
> which would be the appropriate AFS-source-code-version to use.
> 
> excerpt from config.log:
> ===
> it was created by OpenAFS configure 1.6.20.1, which was
> generated by GNU Autoconf 2.63.  Invocation command line was
> 
>   $ ./configure --with-afs-sysname=rs_aix61 -- --enable-transarc-paths
> --disable-pam --includedir=/usr/include
> 
> ## - ##
> ## Platform. ##
> ## - ##
> ...
> uname -r = 1
> uname -s = AIX
> uname -v = 7
> ...
> /usr/bin/uname -p = powerpc
> ...
> /usr/bin/oslevel   = 7.1.0.0
> ...
> ===
> 
> I would be very grateful for any advice on this matter.

Pascal,

To the best of my knowledge there has been no active development of
OpenAFS on any AIX release since January 2015.  At that time the AIX 6
build machine was removed from the build farm because the organization
that provided it for many years could no longer afford to do so.

It does not surprise me if over the last two years there has been
drift between OpenAFS and AIX; especially a new major release of AIX.

To answer your question, I am unaware of anyone that has installed
OpenAFS on AIX 7.1.

If you can provide more details on the failure, perhaps the community
can assist?

If the ability to use OpenAFS on AIX 7.1 is important to your
institution, perhaps it would be willing to provide a build host for use
by the developer community.

Jeffrey Altman
AuriStor, Inc.



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