[OpenBabel-Devel] Heuristic for selecting best forcefield?

2013-02-04 Thread David Lonie
Hi list, We're in the process of developing Avogadro 2, and I'm currently adding an interface to perform the obabel minimize operation on a molecule. My question: Is there a heuristic that can be used to select the best forcefield for a given molecule? As I understand it: * Ghemical is good for

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Heuristic for selecting best forcefield?

2013-02-04 Thread David van der Spoel
On 2013-02-04 16:24, David Lonie wrote: Hi list, We're in the process of developing Avogadro 2, and I'm currently adding an interface to perform the obabel minimize operation on a molecule. My question: Is there a heuristic that can be used to select the best forcefield for a given

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Heuristic for selecting best forcefield?

2013-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
* Are there cases where MMFF94s should be preferred to Ghemical? Everything. The heuristic should be something like MMFF94 if it works, UFF otherwise. Ghemical is included for backwards-compatibility -- it was much easier to implement than MMFF94. * Is GAFF particularly good at any systems

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Heuristic for selecting best forcefield?

2013-02-04 Thread David van der Spoel
On 2013-02-04 17:18, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote: * Are there cases where MMFF94s should be preferred to Ghemical? Everything. The heuristic should be something like MMFF94 if it works, UFF otherwise. Ghemical is included for backwards-compatibility -- it was much easier to implement than

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Heuristic for selecting best forcefield?

2013-02-04 Thread David Lonie
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: On 2013-02-04 17:18, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote: * Are there cases where MMFF94s should be preferred to Ghemical? Everything. The heuristic should be something like MMFF94 if it works, UFF otherwise. Ghemical is

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Heuristic for selecting best forcefield?

2013-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
Speed? Should make no difference at all. Lennard Jones + Coulomb on point charges. It is rather not for proteins (that is regular Amber) but for small (organic) ligand molecules. I stand corrected. I should point out that David really does this for a living. In comparison, I just pretend.

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Heuristic for selecting best forcefield?

2013-02-04 Thread David Lonie
I'll take a look at the sources and see if I can figure out when they'll fail, and use GAFF-MMFF94-UFF. Thanks for the feedback! Dave On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison geoff.hutchi...@gmail.com wrote: Speed? Should make no difference at all. Lennard Jones + Coulomb on