procedure or finding?

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Patterson
> Remark: > As often in SNOMED the subconcepts of "Dipstick test finding (finding) - > 250412004" are all PRIMITIVE, i.e. they don't a unique relationship that > distinguishes them from their parent. Their definition is relatively weak > indicating only that it 'interprets' a 'lab test' and a 'micr

procedure or finding?

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Karlsson
Dear Everyone, as said before Snomed (mostly) models "lab properties" as procedures and most other properties as observables. There might however be a change and a "lab observable" hierarchy (whatever a lab observable is?) is under discussion. Again however, the issue is a bit more tricky as some

Snomed / archetype binding rules (was Re: procedure or finding?)

2008-04-16 Thread Thomas Beale
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procedure or finding?

2008-04-16 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:17:09PM +0200, Thilo Schuler wrote: > This is a bit problematic as there is one subconcept "Urine dipstick test > finding (finding) - 417597005" mentions urine explicitly while the others > don't. Clinically, to my knowledge, in 99,99% urine will be tested with a > dipst

procedure or finding?

2008-04-16 Thread Thilo Schuler
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procedure or finding?

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Patterson
I am making some Snomed bindings for some sample archetypes but am having some meta-level problems. An example will probably help - Say I want to snomed code the urinalysis archetype. It lists a large set of potential measurements from a urine dipstick test - blood, glucose, ketones etc. Snomed h

procedure or finding?

2008-04-16 Thread Thomas Beale
Andrew, Finding codes in this case are what should be used - procedure codes are also used in openEHR archetypes - but in orders (i..e INSTRUCTIONs). We need to be extremely careful not to mix them up, in case users/application software does queries based only on Snomed codes and ignores inst