Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Colin Sutton
There is a risk that the external service could provide different answers at different times, if the external service is updated for technical or clinical reasons (e.g. knowledge improvements) Shouldn't the result of the query to the external service be made at the time of the source event, not

Improving the specification for DV_PARSABLE, specially for ACTIVITY.timing

2018-03-01 Thread Pablo Pazos
Hi all, The specs have a very loose definition of DV_PARSABLE that makes it hard for developers to know how to use it correctly. The first issue is on the DV_PARSABLE.formalism attribute. *1) In the data_types spec there is no clear terminology associated with the formalism.* Current: "Name

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Thomas Beale
Sorry - didn't mean to be cryptic. BFO = basic formal ontology - probably best mainstream reference is the book, see here on Amazon RO = relations ontology - an ontology of possible relationships between

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: > > On 01/03/2018 11:05, Seref Arikan wrote: > >> Hi Diego, >> >> I'd like to hear how you'd address the requirement via a call to an >> external service. >> >> > I don't think it should be that complicated -

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread GF
The metadata describing these interfaces with these services can be constructed using archetypes resulting in Template/Compositions. Thomas: I know what BFO is. But what stand RO ans IAO for? Why must they be based on an ontology? In the case of signalling/normal values, it will be simple:

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Thomas Beale
On 01/03/2018 11:05, Seref Arikan wrote: Hi Diego, I'd like to hear how you'd address the requirement via a call to an external service. I don't think it should be that complicated - after all, a call out to a terminology service is already a call out to a service; terminology is just

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread GF
Yes, there might be a need for a service as external point of reference. In spite of this data in the EHR needs to be suplemented with the actual reference ranges as provided by the service. When we can agree that EHR systems in the future store not only the datapoints but the context info as

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Bert Verhees
On 01-03-18 12:12, Diego Boscá wrote: Assuming there is a service that provides the given value for a given identified range (based on the parameters you provide like sex, age, race... ) it would be allowing kind of namespaces that have defined operations. This would also allow easy querying

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Bert Verhees
On 01-03-18 12:01, Diego Boscá wrote: I believe that we need a way in standard AQL to call to arbitrary external services, this seems like another use case for that \ I agree! ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Diego Boscá
Assuming there is a service that provides the given value for a given identified range (based on the parameters you provide like sex, age, race... ) it would be allowing kind of namespaces that have defined operations. This would also allow easy querying of external terminologies, public health

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Diego, I'd like to hear how you'd address the requirement via a call to an external service. I've been holding back on the recent external service calls discussions :) there is certainly a need for that but it also has the potential to open a can of worms and I'd better no hijack this thread

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Diego Boscá
I believe that we need a way in standard AQL to call to arbitrary external services, this seems like another use case for that El 1 mar. 2018 11:46 a. m., "Seref Arikan" < serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com> escribió: > Hi Colin, > See responses inline please > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:20 AM,

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Colin, See responses inline please On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Colin Sutton wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2018, at 1:59 am, Seref Arikan > wrote: > > […] > >> >> >> First: if the threshold is changing with respect to all

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Colin Sutton
On 1 Mar 2018, at 1:59 am, Seref Arikan > wrote: […] First: if the threshold is changing with respect to all instances of a particular composition (template_id = 'x') , when the change happens, would not you have