Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-01-25 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Alas, the hyperlink seems to be broken. 25.01.2016, 16:06, "Ian McNicoll" :Interesting paper from China -- Regards, Dmitry ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org

Re: Party-actor-folder relationships in hierarchy

2015-11-27 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Thank you, Thomas Now I understand that I: 1) can store list of actors (organizations, users, roles etc) in some external storage 2) shall avoid to store whatever demographic information in an EHR storage - except for PARTY identifiers (issued by some external system) 3) can connect

Re: Party-actor-folder relationships in hierarchy

2015-11-27 Thread Dmitry Baranov
I agree that demographic details can be expressed via archetypes. Actors/Participation/Names etc are elaborated well in HL7 CDA spec, by the way > In Spanish/Portuguese orientated countries they treat lastnames > different, so the archetypes were not really good usable in other countries. > But

Re: Party-actor-folder relationships in hierarchy

2015-11-27 Thread Dmitry Baranov
> Hi Dmitry, > > Consider that the folder structure is defined for each EHR, and can vary vary > between ehrs inside the same company. > I would use LINK to link the org to the ehr folder struct. (ORGANIZATION as LOCATABLE).links[0] points to a folder/versioned folder through URI? Thank you

Party-actor-folder relationships in hierarchy

2015-11-26 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi, I have a lot of practical questions to ask :) Let's imagine that I have an EHR database which is shared by several organizations, and each organization manages one or more EHR systems, and each EHR system manages it's own hierarchy of folders. Something like that: - Database [C] ACME

Re: Party-actor-folder relationships in hierarchy

2015-11-26 Thread Dmitry Baranov
OK Bert, let's say that an EHR system manages a graph of objects and my idea is just a representation of such a graph. PARTY_IDENTIFIED (Patient) - OBJECT_ID (Patient) - COMPOSITION - OBSERVATION - FOLDER - PARTY_IDENTIFIED (Organizaion) If you like :) > I believe OpenEHR is patient-centric,

Re: Party-actor-folder relationships in hierarchy

2015-11-26 Thread Dmitry Baranov
> The root of an patient-EMD is the EHR (with rootfolder), and there is > the patient linked to. > If an EHR system is shared by more organizations, there share also > patients, I guess. Else I don't get the point from sharing. 1. It often occurs that few medical institutions share same

Re: Binding to multiple terminologies / code systems

2015-10-29 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi, Using Archetype Editor I was succeeded to bind a coded text to two terms from different coding systems: ELEMENT[at1054] occurrences matches {0..1} matches {-- New Element name matches { DV_TEXT matches {*} } value matches { DV_CODED_TEXT matches { defining_code

CKM feature request - bulk export of archetypes in XML format

2015-10-06 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi, could you please implement such a function? -- Regards, Dmitry ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org

Re: CKM feature request - bulk export of archetypes in XML format

2015-10-06 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi Peter, it best suits my needs. >>  Hi, could you please implement such a function? > Hi Dmitry, > > I’m not sure if this helps, but if you already have a local directory of ADL > archetypes then you can run the Ocean Archetype Editor in batch-processing > mode from the command line to export

OpenEHR and Oracle XML DB problems

2015-04-16 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi Bert, I give up. The problem appears in 12c as well. And people agree that it is an Oracle bug. https://community.oracle.com/message/13008017 You should always follow the standard in your analyses, before you declare one product buggy and another not. I see in that message that there was

OpenEHR and Oracle XML DB problems

2015-04-16 Thread Dmitry Baranov
I regret that I cannot post the XML Schema and XML-instances I use, because they are not of my IP. But they are structured in another way, more dedicated to efficiency. XML schema is intellectual property, I agree, but why might you or somebody else not to provide community with a couple

OpenEHR and Oracle XML DB problems

2015-04-16 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Diego, that'll be great. Hope that OpenEHR github owners will provide us with an instance samples repository some day or other :) I can generate random sample instances from current archetypes for you if you need them. Generated data may not make much sense as it only tries to follow the

OpenEHR and Oracle XML DB problems

2015-04-15 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi everyone, According Bert experience (https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Choice-OpenEHR-persistence-layer-144276.S.208531138), one must not try to adopt OpenEHR model to relational storage since almost all popular database engines able to process native XML. So I'm experimenting with Oracle

OpenEHR and Oracle XML DB problems

2015-04-15 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Sorry Bert ) I had to explain that Oracle 11 is a business requirement, not a hardware limitation. Just do it, and then it should run fine, although you have to change the XML-Schemas (a bit) before registering them to Oracle. I already explained to you before what and why. I remember your

OpenEHR .oet XML schema

2015-04-14 Thread Dmitry Baranov
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OpenEHR .oet XML schema

2015-04-14 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi Ian, I'm trying to implement a EHR module that uses Oracle XML DB as a storage for clinical records in form of clinical document. A template defines the structure of such document (consultation note, evaluation note, operation note and so on), and EHR module produces a document that match

OpenEHR .oet XML schema

2015-04-14 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Hi Seref, persistence is clear for me, and I was looking for an appropriate model XML-schema, of course. Seref Arikan Hi Ian, I'm not sure if you're prescribing the right medicine here :) My understanding is Dmitry is looking for a schema to use as the basis of persistence. Regards,

OpenEHR .oet XML schema

2015-04-14 Thread Dmitry Baranov
Ian, one more little question to you: can one consider .OPT templates from the OpenEHR CKM web application as thoroughly verified reference samples or rather not? I still get a lot of validation errors trying to validate them with the latest version of Template.xsd from github (testing on