Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-04-03 Thread Thomas Beale
Hi Daniel, I read most of your thesis, it is fascinating (it's one of those things that requires contemplation, so I have not read it straight through). I recommend others to have a look . One thing that I

Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-04-01 Thread Daniel Curto-Millet
Hi all, I’ve been a long-time lurker in the lists while doing my PhD and I still try to keep tabs with what openEHR is doing. I wanted to react and take part in this discussion particularly because their paper resonated with me in some points (and not in others). I think the paper has merit and

RE: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-14 Thread Koray Atalag
enges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals Many thanks Jan (and of course to the author), Clearly this paper has aroused considerable interest/debate. It is good that the whole community can see it and and discuss in details. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll mobile +44 (0)775 209

Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-14 Thread Bert Verhees
I think my reaction of last weekend must have been confusing. I mixed up two subjects - The fantastic ideas about how information and communication and software development should work, and good discussions about that, but also theoretical, - The reality, which seems we are still stuck in the y

Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-14 Thread Ian McNicoll
Many thanks Jan (and of course to the author), Clearly this paper has aroused considerable interest/debate. It is good that the whole community can see it and and discuss in details. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 office +44 (0)1536 414994 skype: ianmcnicoll email: i...@freshehr

Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-12 Thread Bert Verhees
Just a thought on the reading of the article Good article, until I found this sentence: "domain models are now separate from the software (but not the product), and they can be built by non-IT personnel, assuming a tool with a reasonable user interface." Making user-interfaces is a profession

Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-11 Thread Thomas Beale
I can only see the abstract for now, but I think the authors seem to have developed the misconception that end-users would somehow be designing applications. openEHR doesn't try to do that, and it's the first time I've heard anyone suggest it. openEHR just enables domain experts (generally =