Feedback on an archetype governance issue please

2012-07-27 Thread Heather Leslie
 the same CKM internal ID including directly preserving all
provenance and associated details accumulated to date.

o   Implementers: will have to modify their systems with the new archetype
ID and structure

o   Knowledge Governance: Another semantically clean way to ensure that the
CKM pool of archetypes is representing academic best practice.

. Option 3: Keep the current archetype ID (lab_test.v1), update the
Concept name only to 'Pathology Test Result', then upload the content of the
Pathology Test Result' archetype as a new iteration of the lab_test.v1

o   Implementers: will have to modify their systems with the new archetype
structure only. 

o   Knowledge Governance: The structure of the archetype represents academic
best practice. There is a mismatch between the archetype ID (which
effectively has no semantics) and the Concept Name - this may cause some
confusion, especially with clinicians. We might have to explain this
mismatch for a very long time and it may be perpetuated throughout other
related CKM national instances! 
This option will result in a non-alignment between the NEHTA CKM and the
openEHR CKM. While it is probably inevitable that this kind of diversion of
models will happen over time, the question is whether this is acceptable or
desirable in this relatively early phase of model development and
governance.

. Option 4: Same as Option 3 but upload the 'Pathology Test Result'
archetype as a new version, ie lab_testv2, even though the lab_test.v1 has
never been published. 

o   Implementers: will have to modify their systems with the new archetype
ID and structure. The new version will be a visual indication of significant
change in the structure of the archetype. 

o   Knowledge Governance: As with Option 3, the structure of the archetype
represents academic best practice, but the ID (which effectively has no
semantics) and the Concept Name are still mismatching - this may cause some
confusion, especially with clinicians. Creating a new version in this
situation breaks our fledgling governance policy principles, but may be
viewed as a pragmatic solution. 
As in Option 3, there will again be a non-alignment between the NEHTA CKM
and the openEHR CKM  resulting from this approach. While it is probably
inevitable that this kind of diversion of models will happen over time, the
question is whether this is acceptable or desirable in this relatively early
phase of model development and governance.

 

Needless to say this has caused some lively discussion amongst those I have
asked so far. There has been no real consensus arising from those limited
discussions, hence my request for feedback from the broader community.

 

Teasing it out we are dealing with a number of issues tied in together:

. We need to manage inclusion of breaking changes to a draft
archetype that has probably been implemented in a number of systems, despite
the draft state. We are pretty sure that this situation is not unique and we
will need to apply government principles here - either keep it as v1 draft
(as justified by a 'draft model users beware' notion) or update it to v2.
This is covered by Options 3  4

. We want to potentially change the Concept Name of the archetype,
and it possibly makes sense to change the Archetype ID to keep them aligned
- this additional change provides us with Options 1 and 2 above, in addition
to Options 3  4.

 

There are tensions. We have to make pragmatic decisions where there is real
impact on implementers, we want to develop and apply governance principles
systematically, and at the same time we have a responsibility to set these
models up to be as rigorous and semantically sensible as we can, while we
can. We know that over time, we will have to make compromises - the art (or
science) is working out how much compromise and when!

 

Many thanks

 

Heather and Ian

 

 

Dr Heather Leslie
MBBS FRACGP FACHI
Director of Clinical Modelling
 http://www.oceaninformatics.com/ Ocean Informatics
Phone (Aust) +61 (0)418 966 670
Skype - heatherleslie
Twitter - @omowizard

 

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Small CKM bug

2012-07-27 Thread Sebastian Garde
Pablo,

you can just click on any of the other buttons after you logged in and 
the rest of the buttons will appear as well

Sebastian

On 27.07.2012 03:33, pablo pazos wrote:
 Hi,

 When I'm seeing an archetype without signing in, and later I sign in, 
 the archetype view (the one I'm seeing) is not updated with the 
 edition buttons (discussion, review, ...).
 When I open the archetype again, the buttons are there (I'm still 
 logged in).

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Feedback on an archetype governance issue please

2012-07-27 Thread Kalra, Dipak
 will happen over time, the question is whether this is acceptable or 
desirable in this relatively early phase of model development and governance.

? Option 4: Same as Option 3 but upload the ?Pathology Test Result? 
archetype as a new version, ie lab_testv2, even though the lab_test.v1 has 
never been published.

o   Implementers: will have to modify their systems with the new archetype ID 
and structure. The new version will be a visual indication of significant 
change in the structure of the archetype.

o   Knowledge Governance: As with Option 3, the structure of the archetype 
represents academic best practice, but the ID (which effectively has no 
semantics) and the Concept Name are still mismatching ? this may cause some 
confusion, especially with clinicians. Creating a new version in this situation 
breaks our fledgling governance policy principles, but may be viewed as a 
pragmatic solution.
As in Option 3, there will again be a non-alignment between the NEHTA CKM and 
the openEHR CKM  resulting from this approach. While it is probably inevitable 
that this kind of diversion of models will happen over time, the question is 
whether this is acceptable or desirable in this relatively early phase of model 
development and governance.

Needless to say this has caused some lively discussion amongst those I have 
asked so far. There has been no real consensus arising from those limited 
discussions, hence my request for feedback from the broader community.

Teasing it out we are dealing with a number of issues tied in together:

? We need to manage inclusion of breaking changes to a draft archetype 
that has probably been implemented in a number of systems, despite the draft 
state. We are pretty sure that this situation is not unique and we will need to 
apply government principles here ? either keep it as v1 draft (as justified by 
a ?draft model users beware? notion) or update it to v2. This is covered by 
Options 3  4

? We want to potentially change the Concept Name of the archetype, and 
it possibly makes sense to change the Archetype ID to keep them aligned ? this 
additional change provides us with Options 1 and 2 above, in addition to 
Options 3  4.

There are tensions. We have to make pragmatic decisions where there is real 
impact on implementers, we want to develop and apply governance principles 
systematically, and at the same time we have a responsibility to set these 
models up to be as rigorous and semantically sensible as we can, while we can. 
We know that over time, we will have to make compromises ? the art (or science) 
is working out how much compromise and when!

Many thanks

Heather and Ian


Dr Heather Leslie
MBBS FRACGP FACHI
Director of Clinical Modelling
Ocean Informaticshttp://www.oceaninformatics.com/
Phone (Aust) +61 (0)418 966 670
Skype - heatherleslie
Twitter - @omowizard

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Intelligent Data Processing on Health (IDP)

2012-07-27 Thread pablo pazos

The 29th IEEE International Conference on Data Engineering Workshop 
onIntelligent Data Processing on Health (IDP)April 8-11, 2013, Brisbane, 
Australiahttp://www.icde2013.org/index.htmlHealth data, although widely and 
diligently collected, continue to be under-utilisedfor research and evaluation. 
How to make use of the enormous amount of health dataefficiently and 
effectively is one of fundamental issues that health researchersencounter 
today. Such research holds a great promise to improve the quality of 
patientcare, prevent potential medical errors, and reduce healthcare cost. To 
accomplish thisobjective, the collaborations of both practical applications and 
theoretical researchwill be essential. Organized in conjunction with the 29th 
IEEE International Conferenceon Data Engineering (ICDE 2013), the purpose of 
IDP??13 is to provide a forum for discussionand interaction among researchers 
with interests in the cutting edge issues of informationTechniques in 
Health.TOPICS:Papers are welcome from topics related to various data- and 
knowledge-based approaches inhealth domains.  Research topics of interest 
include, but are not limited to:- Electronic Health Record Applications and 
Standards-Intelligent health records- Knowledge Representation and Reasoning- 
Clinical decision support- Health information modelling and integration- Health 
information retrieval, analysis, visualization and prediction- Health knowledge 
discovery and text mining- Ontology and semantic Web services- Security, 
privacy and trust in health domain- Lessons learned from health information 
system implementationIMPORTANT DATES:November 01, 2012   Paper Submission 
DeadlineDecember 10, 2012   Notification of acceptanceDecember 21, 2012 
  Author-registration/Final camera-ready paper dueApril 8 or 12, 2013 
Workshop DaySUBMISSION INFORMATION:Each submission will be evaluated for 
acceptability by at least three membersof the Program Committee. Decisions 
about acceptance will be based on relevanceto the workshop theme, originality, 
potential significance, topicality and clarity.For accepted papers, we require 
that at least one of the submitting authors mustbe a registered participant at 
the ICDE 2013 Conference, and committed to attendthe IDP??13 
Workshop.Submissions to the Workshop must be formatted in the IEEE camera-ready 
format.Submissions must not exceed 8 pages, including figures. Submissions 
exceeding thislimit will not be reviewed.Following the general acceptance rules 
of the ICDE 2013 conference, papers that, at the time of submission, are under 
review for or have already been published in or accepted for publication in a 
journal or another conference will not be accepted to the IDP??13 
workshop.PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS:Chaoyi Pang, CSIRO, Australia chaoyi.pang at 
csiro.auHaolan Zhang, NIT, Zhejiang University, China haolan.zhang at 
nit.zju.edu.cnJunhu Wang, Griffith University, Australia j.wang at 
griffith.edu.auIntended PROGRAM COMMITTEE:Sergio Alvarez, 
Boston College, United StatesPhilip Azariadis,   University of the 
Aegean, GreeceR??mi Bastide   Jean-Francois Champollion 
University, FranceChristoph M. Friedrich  University of Applied Science 
and Arts Dortmund, GermanyMizuho Iwaihara Waseda University, 
JapanStefan JablonskiUniversity of Bayreuth, GermanySebasti??n 
Ventura  SotoUniversity of Cordoba.   SpainJudy C. R. Tseng 
   Chung  Hua University,  TaiwanJenny Zhang RMIT 
University, AustraliaGong Zhiguo University of 
MacauYongluan Zhou   University of Southern Denmark
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