Re: access on items in a cluster

2019-10-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Georg, See inline On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:26 PM Georg Fette wrote: > Hello, > I would like to typecheck AQL queries and have some problems doing that: > The items in a CLUSTER are of type ITEM. If I access > myCluster/items[at0001]/value, is there any possibility to type-check > the

Re: data element type from the RM

2019-10-10 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Georg, Do not confuse the RM model aspects with a particular serialisation format's aspects. RM is technology agnostic, it contains a definition of types which can be implemented via most mainstream (OO) programming languages. Json or XML form of data is a 'serialisation' of an object, which

Re: automatic demotion of lists in AQL ?

2019-05-06 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Georg, I’d say yes but do it reluctantly :) you can think in terms of iteration but in my experience it leads to incorrect assumptions and can confuse you, especially regarding how result sets are created I’d suggest thinking in terms of pattern matching rather than traversal but both are valid

Re: automatic demotion of lists in AQL ?

2019-05-05 Thread Seref Arikan
Have you seen a previous answer I gave to you re contains clause and nodes without arch nd ids? The one explaining why it is unlikely to work a/items[at0001]/value/value should do the trick On Sunday, May 5, 2019, Georg Fette wrote: > Hello, > In order to better understand the semantics of AQL

Re: AQL access of fields of potential subclasses or derived archetypes

2019-05-03 Thread Seref Arikan
Bah, meant "..(I think) it should not..." On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:19 PM Seref Arikan < serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > As things stand, No, the spec does not allow such a thing (since it is > unspecified at the moment) and also partially No, (I don't think)

Re: AQL access of fields of potential subclasses or derived archetypes

2019-05-03 Thread Seref Arikan
As things stand, No, the spec does not allow such a thing (since it is unspecified at the moment) and also partially No, (I don't think) it should not allow such a thing auto-magically or try to be smart about it. As things stand, AQL has only access to information provided by the RM. I for one

Re: AQL query for blood pressure from the AQL documentation

2019-05-02 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, See comments inline please. On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:52 PM Thomas Beale wrote: > Ian, > > If you were referring to the discussion about paths and data types, i.e. > how do you know if you can refer to some path inside a DvQuantity if the > archetype only knows about DataValue and LOINC

Re: constraining of laboratory_test_analyte Analyte result

2019-05-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Georg, Please note that you can always define your FROM clause with a high level node such as an OBSERVATION o[archetype_id] and access the particular path you're interested in using a path starting from o as in o/data[..]/... Regarding your assumptions re FROM clause, technically there is

Re: AQL support for an array of ehr_id

2018-09-01 Thread Seref Arikan
The matches statement is part of Aql specification On Friday, August 31, 2018, Dileep V S wrote: > Dear Ian, > > Thanks. Is this part of the AQL spec or a feature that THinkEhr has > implemented? > > Given the emerging importance of patient consent, given the GDPR and > similar rules coming our

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Seref Arikan
ess any preferences regarding the solution. > > As you seem to agree on this point: sorry for the misunderstanding! > > Best, > > Birger > > > > Am 21.08.2018 um 17:10 schrieb Seref Arikan: > > You're missing my point. To express it in your terms: this is not about

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Seref Arikan
till be considered in these > discussions? > > > Sebastian I. > > On 8/21/2018 5:10 PM, Seref Arikan wrote: > > You're missing my point. To express it in your terms: this is not about > excluding Folders from AQL spec, I said nothing of that sort or implied it > anywa

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Seref Arikan
ware Architect HiGHmed Project * > Tel: +49 176 640 94 640, Fax: +49 531/391-9502 > birger.haarbra...@plri.de > www.plri.de > > > > > Am 21.08.2018 um 14:37 schrieb Seref Arikan: > > @Bjorn and @Ian both: I don't think this is a good idea. This example > ove

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Seref Arikan
@Bjorn and @Ian both: I don't think this is a good idea. This example overloads the semantics of CONTAINS operator of AQL for a very specific scenario: when the object reference is a reference to a composition and the reference sits under folder F, which btw should not be a folder contained in

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-20 Thread Seref Arikan
You're (unintentionally) circling back to discussions re AQL in the last SEC meeting in Slovenia (I was sitting in remotely) What you're asking for can be accomplished in a number of ways at the AQL level, all of which would require changes to AQL specs and implementations. I'm always happy to

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-18 Thread Seref Arikan
result (the Folder/Composition >>associations) - giving instant access, and avoiding having to construct >> the >>query, which is usually somewhat messy. >> - allows other information to be stored directly about the thing the >>Folder represents, e.g. admissio

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-17 Thread Seref Arikan
office +44 (0)1536 414994 > skype: ianmcnicoll > email: i...@freshehr.com > twitter: @ianmcnicoll > > > Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org > Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd. > Director, HANDIHealth CIC > Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > &

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-17 Thread Seref Arikan
Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org > Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd. > Director, HANDIHealth CIC > Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 13:59, Seref Arikan kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > >> I'm use

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-17 Thread Seref Arikan
I'm used to thinking compositions as semantcally self contained units of information, at the very least using references to other means of expressing semantics (as in terminologies) What you're describing seems to take some clincal semantics out of the composion and if we have multiple ways of

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-17 Thread Seref Arikan
Modifying Ian's example for a/uid/value and using uid values instead of names should do the trick On Friday, August 17, 2018, Dileep V S wrote: > Thanks Ian, > > However my requirement is different. I seem to have confused you with the > way my question was framed. > > What I meant by

Re: SMART on FHIR integration

2018-04-24 Thread Seref Arikan
he context is unique etc etc. On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Seref Arikan <serefari...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Tom, > > Based on your description, this sounds like something that is completely > an app level concern for an openEHR based application. I mean, all > operatio

Re: SMART on FHIR integration

2018-04-24 Thread Seref Arikan
hat you don't just log > into a system, but also to a patient (context). > > - thomas > > On 24/04/2018 09:05, Seref Arikan wrote: > > Thanks, would you say then, this definition of context sounds similar to > the electronic health record concept openEHR is built on? >

Re: SMART on FHIR integration

2018-04-24 Thread Seref Arikan
sation for data specific to the > 'current patient' and then launch directly into the task. > > Michael > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 24 Apr 2018, at 5:23 pm, Seref Arikan <serefarikan@ > kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > > Could you explain what you mean by conte

Re: SMART on FHIR integration

2018-04-24 Thread Seref Arikan
Could you explain what you mean by context please? On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 1:23 AM, wrote: > > The real value of SMART (whether its "on FHIR" or not) is that it sets a > mechanism for EMRs to pass context to external apps. This means apps are > re-usable across

Re: SV: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

2018-03-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Philippe, See inline please On Friday, March 30, 2018, Philippe Ameline wrote: > Le 28/03/2018 à 23:42, GF a écrit : > > I see the analogies: > - Ontology = Encyclopedia > - Terminology = Dictionary > - Archetype = Phrase > > > Hi Gerard, > > I would rather see

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Thomas Beale <thomas.be...@openehr.org> wrote: > > On 01/03/2018 11:05, Seref Arikan wrote: > >> Hi Diego, >> >> I'd like to hear how you'd address the requirement via a call to an >> external service. >> >

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Seref Arikan
;) On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Diego Boscá <yamp...@gmail.com> wrote: > I believe that we need a way in standard AQL to call to arbitrary external > services, this seems like another use case for that > > El 1 mar. 2018 11:46 a. m., "Seref Arikan" <seref

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-03-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Colin, See responses inline please On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Colin Sutton <colin.sut...@ctc.usyd.edu.au> wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2018, at 1:59 am, Seref Arikan <serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com> > wrote: > > […] > >> >> >> Firs

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-02-28 Thread Seref Arikan
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:35 PM, GF <gf...@luna.nl> wrote: > > > Gerard Freriks > +31 620347088 <+31%206%2020347088> > gf...@luna.nl > > Kattensingel 20 > 2801 CA Gouda > the Netherlands > > On 28 Feb 2018, at 14:42, Seref Arikan <serefa

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-02-28 Thread Seref Arikan
here :) All the best Seref On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Seref Arikan < serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > The original question is talking about 'threshold's changing in time. > Would not using reference ranges may make things complicated durin

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-02-28 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, The original question is talking about 'threshold's changing in time. Would not using reference ranges may make things complicated during implementation with the changing threshold requirement? First: if the threshold is changing with respect to all instances of a particular composition

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-02-28 Thread Seref Arikan
This sounds like something you should handle at the application level rather than modeling level to me. On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jan-Marc Verlinden wrote: > We are developing a completely openEHR based Personal Health Environment > (PHR). For this we would like

Re: Creating a terminology

2018-02-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Matthew, Great to hear from you. https://wiki.nci.nih.gov/display/lexevs/lexevs worked for me back in 2009 or so, it is apparently still alive. maybe worth taking a look at. All the best Seref On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Darlison, Matthew wrote: > Dear Charlie,

Re: openEHR REST APIs: any plans for Contribution semantics?

2018-02-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Apologies: I somehow managed to miss the Contribution resource at the bottom of EHR API documentation. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:15 AM, Seref Arikan < serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > I cannot see any resources that represent Contributions in the cur

openEHR REST APIs: any plans for Contribution semantics?

2018-02-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I cannot see any resources that represent Contributions in the current REST API specs. Is this on the roadmap for REST API specifications? All the best Seref ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org

Re: openEHR REST APIs - Release 0.9.0 / invitation for comments

2018-02-20 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Georg, Please see comments inline On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Georg Fette wrote: > Hi Seref, > Quite some discussion you already had on this topic last year. The > examples are a bit hard to grasp because of their complexity in size. > Although they are not

Re: openEHR REST APIs - Release 0.9.0 / invitation for comments

2018-02-15 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Georg, Please see comments inline On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Georg Fette wrote: > Hello, > I have some questions on the explicit definition on how the result rows > are returned in the query API: > 1. In the example at https://www.openehr.org/releas >

Re: Announcing Archie version 0.4

2018-02-03 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Peter, Presumably via use of a transpiler or a bytecode to js/webassembly compiler. On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Peter Gummer wrote: > On 1 Feb 2018, at 05:13, Thomas Beale wrote: > > ... But the main interest is that we will be able to

Re: Announcing Archie version 0.4

2018-01-31 Thread Seref Arikan
Pieter, Allow me to express my appreciation and gratitude please: Archie is a fantastic piece of work, which has become my go-to library since I discovered it. Thanks a lot for all your hard work. Kind regards Seref On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Pieter Bos wrote: >

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Seref Arikan
You may want to check internet access packages in the Himalayas or Sahara before you setup shop there Bert ;) On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bert Verhees wrote: > On 14-11-17 16:02, Philippe Ameline wrote: > >> It can currently been argued that this competition led to

Re:

2017-10-31 Thread Seref Arikan
evaluation of openEHR and its integration with > > Bayesian Belief Networks for clinical decision support > > > > One of my most persistent PhD students, Seref Arikan, has published his > > ground-breaking PhD thesis on the UCL online repository. > > > > A fuller an

Re: RE:

2017-10-30 Thread Seref Arikan
egards > > Hildi > > Hildegard Franke > Chief Operations Officer > > > > mobile: +44 (0)7932 502655 <+44%207932%20502655> > landline: +44 (0)1536 414994 <+44%201536%20414994> > skype: hild5559 > twitter: @hildegardfranke > LinkedIn <http:

Re: RE:

2017-10-30 Thread Seref Arikan
al- > boun...@lists.openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Ingram, David > *Sent:* den 27 oktober 2017 13:28 > *To:* For openEHR clinical discussions (openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org) > <openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org>; For openEHR technical discussions < > openehr-technical@list

Re: COMPOSITION (TEMPLATE FILLED) TO XML

2017-10-06 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Flavio, Did you see Pablo's response to this question you've sent earlier? On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Flavio Barbosa wrote: > Good Morning! > > Is there any library in JAVA or any tutorial about serialize a composition > (template filled with data) in XML? > > > Bom

Re: AQL FROM & CONTAINS with many entries

2017-10-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Also see this, just in case it may help clarify relevant Qs: https://github.com/serefarikan/aql-discussion On Sunday, October 1, 2017, Pablo Pazos wrote: > Hi all, another question about AQL and CONTAINS. > > Most of the AQL samples use just one branch in the FROM

Re: AQL FROM & CONTAINS with many entries

2017-10-01 Thread Seref Arikan
X contains (y and z and t) The paranthesis are optional above but would help avoid ambiguity when we have X contains y and z contains t and o Is it: X contains y and (z contains t) and o Or X contains y and (z contains t and o) ?? As you can see the paranthesis help define the containment

Re: Could the specs group consider making uid mandatory?

2016-12-13 Thread Seref Arikan
This looks like it. Thanks. On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: > https://openehr.atlassian.net/projects/SPECPR/issues/SPECPR- > 91?filter=allopenissues > > > On 13/12/2016 23:01, Boštjan Lah wrote: > >> On 13 Dec 2016, at 12:36, Thomas Beale

Re: Could the specs group consider making uid mandatory?

2016-12-13 Thread Seref Arikan
My preferred scenario would be to have an identifier on every node indeed. Not having that, I could live with identifiers for at least some types, such as entry subtypes and a few more. If it cannot be UID, so be it. What is the meaning of overhead here? Processing time? Memory/disk space?

Could the specs group consider making uid mandatory?

2016-12-13 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Apologies if I missed a discussion about this, but as per http://www.openehr.org/releases/RM/latest/docs/common/common.html#_unique_node_identification "LOCATABLE descendants may have a *uid*, containing a GUID" The optional/recommended nature of uid makes it impossible to implement

Re: RM in OWL

2016-07-13 Thread Seref Arikan
did. However I had some > problems to represent list structures. > > 2016-07-12 13:02 GMT-03:00 Seref Arikan <serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com > >: > >> Greetings, >> >> I was wondering if there is any projects out there that provide an OWL >> version of the

RM in OWL

2016-07-12 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I was wondering if there is any projects out there that provide an OWL version of the RM. I found this page: http://trajano.us.es/~isabel/EHR/ where an OWL version is kindly provided, though I'll need to get in touch with the author to clarify the terms and conditions of use. There

Re: Activity based workflow - request for literature & resources

2016-04-13 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, Very interesting. Good to see Intermountain tackling wflow. Especially the idea of adaptive wflows is intriguing. Cooperative category sounds like a true challenge. Inevitable questions follow: Any specs out there? Any code? A shared space for comments/Qs/Chat? Comments: I have long

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Seref Arikan
n > > > Dr Ian McNicoll > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 > office +44 (0)1536 414994 > skype: ianmcnicoll > email: i...@freshehr.com > twitter: @ianmcnicoll > > Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org > Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd. > Direct

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Seref Arikan
The document oriented view of the domain has no problem with storing XML text in the DB, because the implementations are built against that view. The clinical care focused use cases require developers to focus on reading & writing documents, so there is rarely a requirement to read across

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-01-26 Thread Seref Arikan
not with large datasets (tens of > thousands) within the system itself. But given the nature of the "normal" > relational DB schema and queries, this should be no problem at all. It's > good old postgres..:-). > > Jan-Marc > > Op di 26 jan. 2016 om 10:53 schreef Sere

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-01-26 Thread Seref Arikan
an-Marc > > Op di 26 jan. 2016 om 12:26 schreef Seref Arikan < > serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com>: > >> Thanks, >> My feelings for postgresql are well known, it is a great piece of code. >> Final question, do you support AQL with your current design? >> &

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-01-26 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Jan-Marc, To clarify: when you say huge: do you mean that the result set is huge, or the the amount of existing data is huge? Are you able to comment on how query performance changes/stays the same when the result set size begins to grow? On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jan-Marc Verlinden <

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-01-26 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pablo, I agree with you re the indirect use of IM. I don't necessarily see a big problem with this paper's approach because every approach has its downsides. In fact, some really successful projects and products are built on designs that are shunned by the "collective wisdom" of academia and

Re: New EHRServer v0.5 and roadmap

2016-01-14 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pablo, Just wanted to say well done. I have not had the chance to look at your work, mainly because work and studies forced me to take a step back from open source efforts, but it is great to see the continuous progress you're making. It is very important that there is an open source

Re: Trial of openEHR's own 'stackExchange' on the openEHR wiki

2016-01-07 Thread Seref Arikan
Ok, logged in, upvoted the question, then watched the question. The answer was accepted and I received an e-mail telling me that. So it all seems to be working. The point about making this publicly visible is a good one, but is it possible? Finally, even though I'm in favour of a less strict

Re: Advantage of ISO

2015-09-03 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Just to clarify my understanding of your understanding of the term: would you say HL7 and Snomed CT are proprietary ? On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:29 AM, "Gerard Freriks (privé)" wrote: > *What do I misunderstand?* > > The definition of ‘proprietary’ according to GOOGLE

Re: Advantage of ISO

2015-09-03 Thread Seref Arikan
not call it proprietary? On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:11 AM, "Gerard Freriks (privé)" <gf...@luna.nl> wrote: > In the case of CEN, ISO, HL7, SNOMED all members are the owner. > > Gerard > > > > On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Seref Arikan < > serefari...@kurumsal

Re: difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606

2015-08-27 Thread Seref Arikan
Sorry, but I have to ask: are you doing a homework? On Friday, 28 August 2015, 王海生 edwin_ue...@163.com wrote: could we just add a page on openEHR website to illustrate these points thx -- 王海生 15901958021 在 2015-08-28 01:54:58,Thomas Beale thomas.be...@oceaninformatics.com

Re: difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606

2015-08-27 Thread Seref Arikan
All of it is very, very generalizable :) On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Ian McNicoll i...@freshehr.com wrote: Presumably the outline syntax, SELECT, CONTAINS etc is generalisable? Ian Dr Ian McNicoll mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 office +44 (0)1536 414994 skype: ianmcnicoll email:

Re: difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606

2015-08-26 Thread Seref Arikan
Well, technically, it is not part of the openEHR scope either. Happy to be corrected :) On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Ian McNicoll i...@freshehr.com wrote: Hi Diego, I was not aware of any 13606 implementations that support AQL , although I am sure there is some sort of path-based

Re: difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606

2015-08-26 Thread Seref Arikan
Maybe this would help: http://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=950616334398351;res=IELHEA On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 AM, 王海生 edwin_ue...@163.com wrote: dear all , how could i explain to someone difference and relationship between openEHR and EN13606 thx -- 王海生

Re: openEHR @ StackExchange - getting close

2015-06-11 Thread Seref Arikan
Just tweeted for help. Feel free to do the same or RT On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Thomas Beale thomas.be...@oceaninformatics.com wrote: We are getting closer http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/87508/openehrto the next step. We have 76 followers. We still need 17 questions

Re: openEHR @ StackExchange - getting close

2015-06-11 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks, can someone write a comment (shamelessly in capitals..) under the highest voted (16 the moment) question asking visitors to NOT to vote for questions with 10 votes? My user can't do it for some reason. There are ~19 wasted points that could have been used on other questions a.t.m and

Re: openEHR @ StackExchange - getting close

2015-06-11 Thread Seref Arikan
in StackExchange will evaluate each proposal in detail, and if they find that votes and questions are clearly addressed or governed the proposal won't be accepted. 2015-06-11 17:41 GMT+02:00 Seref Arikan serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com : Thanks, can someone write a comment (shamelessly in capitals

Re: openEHR @ StackExchange - progress

2015-06-09 Thread Seref Arikan
To all who are helping with this: there are questions with upvotes 10. I think this is a waste of your upvotes; we need to get as many as possible to 10, upvoting beyond 10 does not help with our goal of creating an openEHR area. Also, some of the questions do not comply with QA format; generic

OpenEHR and Oracle XML DB problems

2015-04-16 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Birger, Thanks for link to Katrin's work. Regards Seref On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Birger Haarbrandt birger.haarbrandt at plri.de wrote: Hi Thomas, do we really need realistic data sets? At least in the beginning, many programmers that are new to openEHR would already be happy

OpenEHR .oet XML schema

2015-04-14 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Ian, I'm not sure if you're prescribing the right medicine here :) My understanding is Dmitry is looking for a schema to use as the basis of persistence. Opt(operational template)s define models, not actual data instances that conform to models. Assuming that this is the case, the canonical

OpenEHR .oet XML schema

2015-04-14 Thread Seref Arikan
In that case, kudos and apologies to Ian. His suggestion is spot on. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Dmitry Baranov baranovda at yandex.ru wrote: Hi Seref, persistence is clear for me, and I was looking for an appropriate model XML-schema, of course. Seref Arikan Hi Ian, I'm not sure

CRUD Restlet

2015-01-19 Thread Seref Arikan
I've managed not to respond for some time but this discussion got to a point where I can't help commenting :) REST is a fact of the industry, due to whatever mysterious dynamics that pushes various solutions down our throat as we get old in front of our computers. So we live with it. This does

CRUD Restlet

2015-01-19 Thread Seref Arikan
problems that you can probably reuse (e.g. using atom for query responses) 2015-01-19 11:25 GMT+01:00 Seref Arikan serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com: I've managed not to respond for some time but this discussion got to a point where I can't help commenting

CRUD Restlet

2015-01-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Foundation Director, HANDIHealth CIC Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL On 19 January 2015 at 10:25, Seref Arikan serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com wrote: I've managed not to respond for some time but this discussion got to a point where I can't help commenting :) REST is a fact

Does anyone implemented a transformation between AQL and XML?

2014-12-17 Thread Seref Arikan
Ok, I think I see what you mean now. AQL is not part of the official specification and there is not much other than the grammar for the implementers so you're right about not having a lot to work with. On the other hand, if you're going to do AQL, you're going to have to have a parser. Marand has

Problem-oriented records and querying by problem

2014-11-20 Thread Seref Arikan
:46PM +, Seref Arikan wrote: Maybe I'm losing some clinical context by adopting a data view of the setting but would not a problem oriented record be a 'view' on clinical data ? Ah, putting it that way makes sense, too: the POMR approach to be a view integrating data into information. My

Problem-oriented records and querying by problem

2014-11-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Maybe I'm losing some clinical context by adopting a data view of the setting but would not a problem oriented record be a 'view' on clinical data ? The clinical problem is obviously context dependant (cancer, diabetes etc) so this sounds like a higher order view on top of clinical data to me. I'd

openEHR-technical Digest, Vol 32, Issue 31

2014-10-07 Thread Seref Arikan
Programmers waste enormous amounts of time thinking about, or worrying about, the speed of noncritical parts of their programs, and these attempts at efficiency actually have a strong negative impact when debugging and maintenance are considered. We *should* forget about small efficiencies, say

Archetype Naming proposals - do we need V0?

2014-10-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Ian, Personally I think V0 has significant costs in exchange for not so significant benefits. Semver compatibility would be nice, but nice is not worth the implementation cost for parser etc here. I don't know if V0 support would break things deep down in actual openEHR implementations but even

Composition commit format to EHR

2014-04-10 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pablo, I may be wrong, but I'm getting the impression that you are considering the extra data you're talking about as something that is outside the composition. It can certainly be processed that way, but the openEHR spec has significant consideration for this type of information. The context,

How to start

2013-08-07 Thread Seref Arikan
Dear Lexis, A piece of early warning: If someone assigned only you to develop an EHR based on openEHR, assuming that you'll figure out everything on your own and deliver a solution, they are making a big mistake: this is not a one man job. Based on your questions, I get the feeling that you have

AQL / ADL BNF specifications...

2013-07-15 Thread Seref Arikan
As far as I know Marand open sourced their Antlr grammar for aql, though I did not download it. it would probably be much more helpful than a bnf form alone. google is your friend :) the bnf specification for adl 1.5 is in Eiffel form, but I guess someone produced an html version of it or

openEHR website is down

2013-07-08 Thread Seref Arikan
works for me as well. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Diego Bosc? yampeku at gmail.com wrote: Both website and CKM are down. Was this stop intended? Regards ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-18 Thread Seref Arikan
/whatever_other_query_language_that_my_persistence_layer_uses for now and I'll implement AQL later On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Randolph Neall randy.neall at veriquant.comwrote: Seref, I was simply trying to take your hint. :). On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Seref Arikan serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com wrote

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-17 Thread Seref Arikan
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Randolph Neall randy.neall at veriquant.comwrote: Using path-based blobbing probably isn't a million miles from such DBs. Personally I used a wonderful object database called Matisse (still around today), which essentially operates as a graph db with write-once

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-17 Thread Seref Arikan
AQL is not part of the official specification yet. Regards Seref On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Randolph Neall randy.neall at veriquant.comwrote: Thomas, somehow I'm not finding the AQL specification. It's probably right under my nose on your specification/release page. Also, do you have

PhD thesis online: Scalability and Semantic Sustainability in Electronic Health Record Systems

2013-01-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Erik, Congrats, it must feel really nice to be able to reach this point. Best of luck for the defense :) Best regards Seref On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se wrote: Hi! My thesis entitled Scalability and Semantic Sustainability in Electronic Health

Handling internalization for openEHR terminology xml. Do we need a schema update?

2013-01-29 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Ian and I have been working on internalization of openEHR terminology XML for a project. Being the lazy person that I am, I wrote an Xquery snippet to reuse the existing work in the Archetype Editor's terminology file, which is quite comprehensive in terms of the languages it contains.

ADL Worbench for Linux

2013-01-18 Thread Seref Arikan
from the top of my head: reads like a path problem with the images embedded into AW, due to fact that it is being developed under Windows, and you're trying to run it under Linux. Any chance you can check out mechanism of image paths? On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Bert Verhees bert.verhees at

ADL Worbench for Linux

2013-01-18 Thread Seref Arikan
I know it is cross platform :) That is why I wrote, developed under Windows, which implies that the developer might have used Windows style relative paths for images. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Peter Gummer peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com wrote: On 18/01/2013, at 20:11, Seref

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-27 Thread Seref Arikan
I'll attempt to comment on Bert's problem, hoping I understand it :) When you do not have a root element definition in an XSD, you can't create XML documents which will be valid according to that XSD. What Bert is saying is, if we had a bunch of root elements in the XSDs, it would allow us create

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-26 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Did I get this right? There are XSDs on openEHR web site. There are also XSDs which are different than the first set, provided by LinkEHR. If these are XSDs of the published parts of the openEHR specifications, such as RM or AOM, then there should only be one XSD set, published by

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-26 Thread Seref Arikan
/its/XML-schema/index.html --Tim On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Seref Arikan serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com wrote: Greetings, Did I get this right? There are XSDs on openEHR web site. There are also XSDs which are different than the first set, provided by LinkEHR. If these are XSDs

What should AQL return in this case?

2012-08-20 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Here is the setting in which AQL is being used: We are interested in outcomes of a particular clinical instruction in cases where a particular observation has been recorded. We want to get an attribute of both the observation and the and the instruction from patient EHR. The patient's

What should AQL return in this case?

2012-08-20 Thread Seref Arikan
be querying that structure. There are moves to standardise such structures in openEHR, but it's not there yet. - thomas On 20/08/2012 05:19, Seref Arikan wrote: Greetings, Here is the setting in which AQL is being used: We are interested in outcomes of a particular clinical instruction

What should AQL return in this case?

2012-08-20 Thread Seref Arikan
Ascii would take time iPad + Notability + a proper stylus I love it. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Hugh Leslie hugh.leslie at oceaninformatics.com wrote: You could have done the diagram in ascii... -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

What should AQL return in this case?

2012-08-20 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks, I think this is the best thing to do. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: On 20/08/2012 05:47, Seref Arikan wrote: Hi Tom, Your comments are quite helpful, but they do not belong to the context I'm asking about. I'm asking

Should not node identifiers in runtime paths be mandatory?

2012-08-15 Thread Seref Arikan
:34, Seref Arikan wrote: Greetings, According to adl 1.5 document on the openEHR web site (issued 25 Jan 2012), Section 5.3.6.3, the runtime paths for single valued attributes can omit node identifer. The example given in the document uses miles per hour and km per hour alternatives

Should not node identifiers in runtime paths be mandatory?

2012-08-14 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, According to adl 1.5 document on the openEHR web site (issued 25 Jan 2012), Section 5.3.6.3, the runtime paths for single valued attributes can omit node identifer. The example given in the document uses miles per hour and km per hour alternatives. The thing is, if the runtime path is

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