Re: Is the proportion kind "integer fraction" correct?

[Pablo Pazos]

Exactly, "fraction" and "integer fraction" are the same thing semantically,
but in the specs, the "integer fraction" the only one that defines a
specific format, "fraction" does not specifies a format, just the fraction
semantics for the DV_PROPORTION. That is the only difference.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Diego Boscá  wrote:

> But following the same reasoning you could say that "integer fraction"
> makes the values to be interpreted differently from percert, unary or
> ratio, and has no real semantic difference, thus "fraction" being only a
> visual representation of "integer fraction" ;)
>
> 2018-07-03 2:00 GMT+02:00 Pablo Pazos :
>
>> But I think "fraction" makes the values of the DV_PROPORTION (numerator,
>> denominator) to be interpreted differently from other proportion kinds
>> (percent, unary, ratio). My point is "fraction" and "integer fraction" have
>> no real semantic differences, and "integer fraction" is just for visual
>> representation.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Diego Boscá  wrote:
>>
>>> both that and fraction seem to be intended for visualization purposes
>>> more than real constraints.
>>>
>>> 2018-07-03 1:19 GMT+02:00 Pablo Pazos :
>>>
 Hi, I'm checking the datatypes specs doing some modeling tests on the
 archetype editor.

 In the specs, the "integer fraction" proportion kind means the
 representation of the fraction 3/2 should be 1 1/2.

 http://www.openehr.org/releases/RM/Release-1.0.3/docs/data_t
 ypes/data_types.html#_proportion_kind_class

 Semantically I think this is not on the same level as the other
 "proportion kinds", since it doesn't represent a kind, but a format, where
 the same values can be recorded as numerator (3) and denominator (2) with
 proportion kind "fraction" and will mean the same thing. IMO "integer
 fraction" doesn't even change the meaning or interpretation of the
 fraction, while other "proportion kinds" do.

 My question is if the "integer fraction" really belongs to a
 "proportion kind" or should be somewhere else on the specs? I guess this
 tried to solve a use case and it was a shorthand to represent this format
 as a proportion kind.


 Thanks,
 Pablo.

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Re: Is the proportion kind "integer fraction" correct?

[Diego Boscá]

But following the same reasoning you could say that "integer fraction"
makes the values to be interpreted differently from percert, unary or
ratio, and has no real semantic difference, thus "fraction" being only a
visual representation of "integer fraction" ;)

2018-07-03 2:00 GMT+02:00 Pablo Pazos :

> But I think "fraction" makes the values of the DV_PROPORTION (numerator,
> denominator) to be interpreted differently from other proportion kinds
> (percent, unary, ratio). My point is "fraction" and "integer fraction" have
> no real semantic differences, and "integer fraction" is just for visual
> representation.
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Diego Boscá  wrote:
>
>> both that and fraction seem to be intended for visualization purposes
>> more than real constraints.
>>
>> 2018-07-03 1:19 GMT+02:00 Pablo Pazos :
>>
>>> Hi, I'm checking the datatypes specs doing some modeling tests on the
>>> archetype editor.
>>>
>>> In the specs, the "integer fraction" proportion kind means the
>>> representation of the fraction 3/2 should be 1 1/2.
>>>
>>> http://www.openehr.org/releases/RM/Release-1.0.3/docs/data_t
>>> ypes/data_types.html#_proportion_kind_class
>>>
>>> Semantically I think this is not on the same level as the other
>>> "proportion kinds", since it doesn't represent a kind, but a format, where
>>> the same values can be recorded as numerator (3) and denominator (2) with
>>> proportion kind "fraction" and will mean the same thing. IMO "integer
>>> fraction" doesn't even change the meaning or interpretation of the
>>> fraction, while other "proportion kinds" do.
>>>
>>> My question is if the "integer fraction" really belongs to a "proportion
>>> kind" or should be somewhere else on the specs? I guess this tried to solve
>>> a use case and it was a shorthand to represent this format as a proportion
>>> kind.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pablo.
>>>
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Re: Is the proportion kind "integer fraction" correct?

[Pablo Pazos]

But I think "fraction" makes the values of the DV_PROPORTION (numerator,
denominator) to be interpreted differently from other proportion kinds
(percent, unary, ratio). My point is "fraction" and "integer fraction" have
no real semantic differences, and "integer fraction" is just for visual
representation.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Diego Boscá  wrote:

> both that and fraction seem to be intended for visualization purposes more
> than real constraints.
>
> 2018-07-03 1:19 GMT+02:00 Pablo Pazos :
>
>> Hi, I'm checking the datatypes specs doing some modeling tests on the
>> archetype editor.
>>
>> In the specs, the "integer fraction" proportion kind means the
>> representation of the fraction 3/2 should be 1 1/2.
>>
>> http://www.openehr.org/releases/RM/Release-1.0.3/docs/data_
>> types/data_types.html#_proportion_kind_class
>>
>> Semantically I think this is not on the same level as the other
>> "proportion kinds", since it doesn't represent a kind, but a format, where
>> the same values can be recorded as numerator (3) and denominator (2) with
>> proportion kind "fraction" and will mean the same thing. IMO "integer
>> fraction" doesn't even change the meaning or interpretation of the
>> fraction, while other "proportion kinds" do.
>>
>> My question is if the "integer fraction" really belongs to a "proportion
>> kind" or should be somewhere else on the specs? I guess this tried to solve
>> a use case and it was a shorthand to represent this format as a proportion
>> kind.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pablo.
>>
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Re: Is the proportion kind "integer fraction" correct?

[Diego Boscá]

both that and fraction seem to be intended for visualization purposes more
than real constraints.

2018-07-03 1:19 GMT+02:00 Pablo Pazos :

> Hi, I'm checking the datatypes specs doing some modeling tests on the
> archetype editor.
>
> In the specs, the "integer fraction" proportion kind means the
> representation of the fraction 3/2 should be 1 1/2.
>
> http://www.openehr.org/releases/RM/Release-1.0.3/
> docs/data_types/data_types.html#_proportion_kind_class
>
> Semantically I think this is not on the same level as the other
> "proportion kinds", since it doesn't represent a kind, but a format, where
> the same values can be recorded as numerator (3) and denominator (2) with
> proportion kind "fraction" and will mean the same thing. IMO "integer
> fraction" doesn't even change the meaning or interpretation of the
> fraction, while other "proportion kinds" do.
>
> My question is if the "integer fraction" really belongs to a "proportion
> kind" or should be somewhere else on the specs? I guess this tried to solve
> a use case and it was a shorthand to represent this format as a proportion
> kind.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Pablo.
>
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Is the proportion kind "integer fraction" correct?

[Pablo Pazos]

Hi, I'm checking the datatypes specs doing some modeling tests on the
archetype editor.

In the specs, the "integer fraction" proportion kind means the
representation of the fraction 3/2 should be 1 1/2.

http://www.openehr.org/releases/RM/Release-1.0.3/docs/data_types/data_types.html#_proportion_kind_class

Semantically I think this is not on the same level as the other "proportion
kinds", since it doesn't represent a kind, but a format, where the same
values can be recorded as numerator (3) and denominator (2) with proportion
kind "fraction" and will mean the same thing. IMO "integer fraction"
doesn't even change the meaning or interpretation of the fraction, while
other "proportion kinds" do.

My question is if the "integer fraction" really belongs to a "proportion
kind" or should be somewhere else on the specs? I guess this tried to solve
a use case and it was a shorthand to represent this format as a proportion
kind.


Thanks,
Pablo.

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