Layers of interoperability, OWL and openEHR

2009-04-23 Thread Diego Boscá
For your interest, there is a Research Group in Spain that is developing an ADL2OWL transformation http://klt.inf.um.es/~cati/Adl2Owl.htm Diego -- Diego Bosc? Tom?s diebosto at fis.upv.es yampeku at gmail.com Grupo IBIME Instituto ITACA - Universidad Polit?cnica de

openEHR community on Google Wave

2009-12-04 Thread Diego Boscá
Link to the wiki page? 2009/12/4 Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se: Thanks Sebastian! You nicely adressed most of my concerns and seem to understand the problems. Tom Sam: In this thread on Nov 17 I wrote Many people start problem solving by a using a search engine, so that the

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-23 Thread Diego Boscá
More people than you think still read and write ADL by hand, as openEHR clinical model is not the only language you can build archetypes (for instance, you can do archetypes of openEHR demographics, CEN EN13606 clinical model or demographics). However, it's true that available tools support or

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-26 Thread Diego Boscá
This reminds me a thing. Would be useful to have at ADL level something like postconditions? (In your example, something stating how to obtain or validate MBP from available values). I think this falls into knowledge level. 2009/7/25 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: Bert

XML Schema for the openEHR Demographics package?

2009-03-24 Thread Diego Boscá
Just found a post from a year ago about the topic that I wanted to ask so I'm refloating it. Is the openEHR Demographics XSD Schema going to be released soon? If not, can I have a copy of the draft? 2008/4/22 Heath Frankel heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com: Hi Erik, Yes there was no

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-31 Thread Diego Boscá
Last Friday I built an XSD schema following the openEHR demographics model available on the openEHR web. I have been able to import it to LinkEHR and do some test with the available demographic archetypes (thanks Sergio) and seems to work well. I've uploaded it to the LinkEHR webpage so anyone can

Reverse_relationships

2009-05-07 Thread Diego Boscá
The archetype constraints the reference model, if something isn't explicit on the archetype definition the default classes and attributes from the reference model are assumed 2009/5/7 Stef Verlinden stef at vivici.nl: I've been working through the demographic AT's that were provided by Sergio.

ADL - syntax highlight for Notepad++

2009-10-05 Thread Diego Boscá
I haven't heard that anyone has developed it yet, but that is a very good idea 2009/10/5 gjb gjb at crs4.it: I wonder if anyone has created themselves a syntax highlight file for use with Notepad++ http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm and would be willing to share it? Gavin

An IHE Profile Proposal for Document Templates

2009-09-17 Thread Diego Boscá
I'm not a CDA specialist, but seems that CDA has its own archetypes now http://motorcycleguy.blogspot.com/2009/09/ihe-profile-proposal-for-document.html -- Diego Bosc? Tom?s diebosto at fis.upv.es yampeku at gmail.com Grupo IBIME Instituto ITACA - Universidad

{Disarmed} Re: OpenEHR / ISO 13606 converter

2009-09-17 Thread Diego Boscá
This is the mail that Catalina from Murcia University sent to the other lists - Hi, I presented in the MIE conference at the end of August a poster (http://www.hst.aau.dk/~ska/MIE2009/papers/MIE2009p0260.pdf) about a ISO 13606 to OpenEHR and vice-versa converter. Some people asked for me to

Run-time name constraints and appropriate use of terminologies

2010-08-30 Thread Diego Boscá
What about a person that is only used for family history for an illness? Maybe you only know that the grandparent called 'John' suffered from the same disease of your patient, but you don't know much more about him. 2010/8/30 Stef Verlinden stef at vivici.nl: Hi Sergio, From a non-technical

GUI-directives/hints again (Was: Developing usable GUIs)

2010-12-01 Thread Diego Boscá
There's also an opensource project called EHRFlex, which is an archetype-based clinical registry system (EHR) independent of a particular reference model. It uses clinical archetypes as guidelines for the automatic generation of web interfaces, oriented to a clinical use and data introduction.

Clinical Knowledge Manager: new version with template support

2010-01-20 Thread Diego Boscá
So is there a final template schema/specification? Last thing I know is that both Ocean and Zilics had their own schema for templates 2010/1/20 Sebastian Garde sebastian.garde at oceaninformatics.com Dear all, We have uploaded a new version of the Clinical Knowledge Manager: The CKM

ISO 21090 data types too complex?

2010-11-09 Thread Diego Boscá
Reading your post I have remembered something I have read sometimes but I haven't still gotten a satisfactory answer: If UML and ADL are that similar, why don't we use both? What does UML can express that ADL can not express that makes some people to dislike it (and also what can ADL express that

ISO 21090 data types too complex?

2010-11-09 Thread Diego Boscá
Regarding Cluster, there is a code to tell if a cluster is a table or a list, so the computer always knows which one was chosen 2010/11/9 Hugh Leslie hugh.leslie at oceaninformatics.com: Hi Andrew I'm happy to continue to have this discussion with you.? I still am not sure whether your

download archetype repository

2010-11-16 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello Jesus, You can find it under Archetype-Bulk export... you must be logged in to view that menu (not sure why...) 2010/11/16 Jesus Bisbal jesus.bisbal at upf.edu Dear all, I'm sure this question is very easily answered, but I can't find a way to download the whole archetype

More on ISO 21090 complexity

2010-11-18 Thread Diego Boscá
shorter Tom Beale: Only by ignoring use cases can one design usable data types? I think is more like you don't have to look only the use cases to design usable data types heh. XML forever, it will solve every problem in the world. Just if everyone else does it 'my' way, we'll be right.

World Peace

2010-11-22 Thread Diego Boscá
I think the wiki is down 2010/11/22 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com On 22/11/2010 00:23, Stef Verlinden wrote: Dear all, As Ed Hammond said it somewhere earlier in this discussion: It's like World Peace - a great idea but probably not achievable. I agree with Ed if

HL7 modelling approach

2010-11-25 Thread Diego Boscá
Because I still believe that the Apgar score in HL7 v3 MUST be 100% identical to the Apgar score in archetype. If that is not the case, both methods fail to do what they are intented for. I have to disagree with that. The apgar DCM is only one, but the different representations in each one of

HL7 modelling approach

2010-11-27 Thread Diego Boscá
The concept (DCM) is the same, but the implementation in different standards will differ, as two different standards will never have the same way of representing the same concept. As DCM should be even broader than archetypes and templates, generating them from the DCM should not be dangerous at

Mindmap software

2010-10-15 Thread Diego Boscá
Yeah, freemind XML is quite easy. I created a first version of a ADL (CEN EN13606) to freemind converter in less than one day. In my opinion the big drawback Freemind has at this moment is that it doesn't display UTF-8 labels correctly (well, flash view does, but not freemind program itself)

openEHR-RM-LINK discussion - now also on mailing list :-)

2010-10-28 Thread Diego Boscá
Shouldn't archetype identifiers and file names be separated? 2010/10/28 Peter Gummer peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com: Erik Sundvall wrote: openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.problem.v1.adls ? openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.diagnosis.v1.adls ? ? ?openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.diagnosis_sweden.v1.adls

openEHR artefact namespace identifiers

2011-04-06 Thread Diego Boscá
Also, some of the restrictions of the identifier name seem arbitrary, like minimum number of characters or what characters can you put. 2011/4/6 David Moner damoca at gmail.com: Hello, I like that approach regarding namespaces, it will be needed sooner than later. Related to archetype

openEHR artefact namespace identifiers

2011-04-08 Thread Diego Boscá
That we are very cautious about reference model version changes doesn't mean that any other organization does the same. Look at HL7 v2 v3 for example ;) 2011/4/8 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: On 07/04/2011 12:07, David Moner wrote: Dear Thomas, I agree with your general

openEHR artifact namespace identifiers

2011-04-08 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello I have been working some time in DCM/archetype metadata. Dublin Core is suitable for that, however, there is an ISO norm (ISO 15699. Health informatics. Clinical knowledge resources. Metadata ) which is an extension of Dublin Core for Health informatics and it's even more suitable. They

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-04-27 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello, With the latest Demographic archetypes updates on the CKM I think we have to be careful with archetype versioning. The new archetypes seem quite different of the ones that were uploaded some time ago. They are different on structure but the version of the archetype has not been improved

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-04-27 Thread Diego Boscá
So do you mean that only 23 (everything that is not draft) of the current 270 archetypes on the CKM are 'safe' to be used? Everything else could be completely changed in the next revision of the draft :( 2011/4/27 Ian McNicoll Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com: Hi Diego, For those who are

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-04-27 Thread Diego Boscá
I am OK with all that, my only problem is that new iterations should make new versions if changes are enough (even in draft status). If not all current projects using archetypes will be just wrong with the 'official' current archetype in CKM The situation of two incompatible archetypes with the

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-04-27 Thread Diego Boscá
I still don't see the problem If we wait until an archetype is published to care about versions then you will have v2 or v3 archetypes as much, which in my opinion breaks completely versioning purpose. What is the problem with having a v27 archetype? Is it less pretty? 2011/4/27 Ian McNicoll

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-04-28 Thread Diego Boscá
2011/4/28 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: On 27/04/2011 10:44, Diego Bosc? wrote: I still don't see the problem If we wait until an archetype is published to care about versions then you will have v2 or v3 archetypes as much, which in my opinion breaks completely

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-05 Thread Diego Boscá
and if you want to express something like 'a set with all the past test results for this patient' (that could have none)? it would be a constraint as you are only allowing some kinds of entries (children of a certain Snomed code for example) 2011/12/5 Sam Heard sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com:

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-07 Thread Diego Boscá
I have no problems on having different representations. In fact, having different representations means more happy people, not less (for example, people has been using RDF to describe archetypes for some time). Anyway I love this kind of threads, as are great to see new perspectives and

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-08 Thread Diego Boscá
After reading Pablo's post on domain types I am curious about how should they be represented on each one of the different formats. I feel they should be 'expanded' before trying to represent them in any other format, but I might be wrong. Any ideas or opinions? 2011/12/8 Koray Atalag k.atalag at

open source openEHR-related EHR systems; How do you want to be cited...

2011-12-12 Thread Diego Boscá
This is the description from the project in GitHu (https://github.com/skoba/ruby-impl-openehr) This is the beta version 0.9.4 release of Ruby openEHR implementation project. This release is still experimental preview of our work based on openEHR specification release 1.0.2. We implemented almost

13606 revisited - list proposal

2011-12-15 Thread Diego Boscá
technically speaking, CLUSTER is already simpler in current 13606 model :) 2011/12/15 pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com: Great! this will be THE opportunity to think about an IM 2.0, and the first topic on my wishlist is the simplification of ITEM_STRUCTURE children :D -- Kind regards,

13606 revisited - list proposal

2011-12-16 Thread Diego Boscá
I am reading 1.0.2 IM and it says CARE_ENTRY, not GENERIC_ENTRY. which one is the good one? By the way, both ENTRY and CARE_ENTRY are abstract in openEHR. I don't think you could only make ENTRY non-abstract without making CARE_ENTRY non-abstract too (I think it has no sense to inherit an abstract

Basetypes (schema/specification)

2011-12-20 Thread Diego Boscá
I have been doing some tests with the file archetype.xsd available on the webpage and I have run with some problems. The main one is regarding BaseTypes.xsd, which supposedly defines types such as intervalOfInteger, intervalOfDate..., but doesn't contain them. Documentation

Basetypes (schema/specification)

2011-12-21 Thread Diego Boscá
ok, then the link of the XSD is pointing to an old version (link on this page http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/its/XML-schema/index.html). This is the page that can be reached through the openEHR website menu. and the second issue is still true: types with CamelCase and

Basetypes (schema/specification)

2011-12-21 Thread Diego Boscá
It is not 'wrong', I'm just saying that following the same syntax for everything would be better. We had already a discussion about this on this same list regarding same issues on other schema. I was just pointing them out in case they need to be changed. 2011/12/21 Heath Frankel heath.frankel

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Diego Boscá
Is much different to change the field from 'test result:positive/negative' to 'test result positive:true/false'? If the semantics if not the same then the 'positive/negative' has more meaning that a simple boolean and I think they should be coded 2011/2/2 Koray Atalag k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz:

Representing binary values with DV_BOOLEAN

2011-02-02 Thread Diego Boscá
That seems a clear 'null flavour' use case 2011/2/2 Fabiane Bizinella Nardon fabiane at tridedalo.com.br: I came across this problem several times. It became almost impossible to use DV_BOOLEAN. The worst problem is that since DV_BOOLEAN has to be always true or false, if someone simply does

constraint binding error

2011-02-21 Thread Diego Boscá
I know it is on ADL specs, but why limit it to an URI? Second approach could also be used to identify a subset I understand the URI need, but I can think more than one occasion where you have a defined termset and no URI for it 2011/2/18 Peter Gummer peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com: Cati

constraint binding error

2011-02-21 Thread Diego Boscá
If that is the valid way of defining in an URI form, it is undocumented. the example should be put on the ADL specs. And again not that difficult to support both kind of bindings. In my opinion, ORGANIZATIONX::DrugFormSubset is way more human readable and needs the same degree of 'computer

constraint binding error

2011-02-21 Thread Diego Boscá
and also, binding to URL seems like a bad decision for archetype maintainability 2011/2/21 Andrew Patterson andrewpatto at gmail.com: Just to clarify some more, my contention is that you cannot look inside a arbitrary URI to pick out values without looking at the formal 'scheme' dependent

constraint binding error

2011-02-21 Thread Diego Boscá
And just as a comment, in the ADL 1.4 specs the example shows a URL. Maybe should be better if a URN was shown 2011/2/21 pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com: (just to clarify) I know that constraint bindings URIs are not actual working URIs that you can get a-la HTTP, I understand that here

Sample OpenEHR records

2011-03-01 Thread Diego Boscá
I would be also interested in this. 2011/3/1 Tiago Pedrosa pedrosa at ipb.pt: Hi everyone, ? ? ? ?I'm looking for sampling OpenEHR records data. I will like to feed my repository with some sample data to make some test and try new services, does anyone knows where can I get that ? ? ? ?

CCR model

2011-07-11 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello Koray, ASTM sells the standard + the schema, so I think the only way to obtain it is to buy it from them http://www.astm.org/Standards/E2369.htm regards 2011/7/11 Koray Atalag k.atalag at auckland.ac.nz: Hi All, I need CCR model ASAP. has anyone worked on this. Possible to share?

ADLs documentation?

2011-06-21 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello everyone, I have been trying to found information about ADLs, but there is no information on current (1.4) ADL document. Searching the wiki for 'ADLs' doesn't work as returns all 'ADL' results. Do you know where the documentation about ADLs can be found? Regards

ADLs documentation?

2011-06-21 Thread Diego Boscá
I mean ADLs as referenced here http://www.openehr.org/224-OE.html .adls, for 'ADL source' files, allowing specialised archetypes to be represented 'differentially' (like object-oriented subclasses) 2011/6/21 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: Diego, if you mean the ADL 1.5

ADLs documentation?

2011-06-21 Thread Diego Boscá
Thanks, that is what I was looking for 2011/6/21 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: For the tool, see http://www.openehr.org/svn/ref_impl_eiffel/TRUNK/apps/adl_workbench/doc/web/index.html For the wiki page see here - you can see a lot of examples here. otherwise see the

Sample OpenEHR records

2011-03-03 Thread Diego Boscá
For the lack of responses I assume that they are not available. Is there at least an openEHR XML instance validator? we could try to make the instances from scratch and validate them. 2011/3/1 Jesus Bisbal jesus.bisbal at upf.edu I second that. Very interested. I posted a similar request to

Archetype Editor (whishes)

2011-03-09 Thread Diego Boscá
You can define openEHR demographic archetypes with LinkEHR 2011/3/8 Bert Verhees bert.verhees at rosa.nl: Just for considering, It would be a nice thing if GENERIC_ENTRY was an option in the Archetype-Editor (also demographics, but that is an old discussion) Thanks, Bert Verhees

C_DATE_TIME and RM instances

2011-03-18 Thread Diego Boscá
I think it is because of parsing collisions. I don't really see another point to obligate the hours in a date_time 2011/3/18 Ian McNicoll Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com: Thanks Peter / Thomas, This is quite important and I had not appreciated the limitations on the use of partial dates

post-coordinated code on DV_CODED_TEXT?

2011-03-21 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello, So I was looking to the Text package in the data_types specification and I was wondering how is supposed a DV_CODED_TEXT to handle a post-coordinated term (from for example SNOMED). If I understand correctly is something that relies in a supposed terminology service? isn't doing that

post-coordinated code on DV_CODED_TEXT?

2011-03-21 Thread Diego Boscá
But then if we want to communicate this coded string outside from our openEHR system would be impossible to know 100% what it is. I don't get the point of having 'mappings' (which could also be done by a terminology service) and not having a 'qualifiers' or whatever. Doesn't Loinc also allow

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Diego Boscá
I will suggest a new optional section on the ADL, if those conditions end in the archetype tree structure it could really be a mess. So if you just want to look for the structure you only have to ignore that section 2011/3/23 Heath Frankel heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com: Hi Seref, I

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Diego Boscá
I was saying that because some of the conditions Thomas said are really clinical knowledge. I want to be able to express that one value should be always greater than another, or that a score value of a scale (norton, barthel...) is the addition of other parts of the archetype. That's what I think

GUI stuff in AOM/ADL? (Was: future ADL-versions)

2011-03-25 Thread Diego Boscá
Maybe we could use as inspiration all the available XML to GUI efforts that already exist. Mostly to avoid reinventing the wheel 2011/3/25 pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com: Hi Koray, I think we are the core group, and if we can agree some basic notation of some basic GUI directives

openEHR 13606 EHR Extract

2011-05-05 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello Thomas, Some questions about the example available at the SVN (http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge2/TRUNK/archetypes/openEHR_examples/ehr_extract_template/Working/Templates/ehr_extract/openEHR-EHR_EXTRACT-EXTRACT.t_basic_acute.v1.adls) - What does the next snippet mean? use_archetype

openEHR 13606 EHR Extract

2011-05-05 Thread Diego Boscá
And again, why 'closed' and not occurrences {0}? Is really needed to include a new reserved word when you already have the way of expressing this? When you resolve a use_archetype while generating the instance you will put the data, not a reference to it. On the other hand, the model tells you

occurrences and cardinality in ADL, XML, JSON

2011-11-11 Thread Diego Boscá
Although this would work, I think that it would make ADL far less readable and would oblige people to know always the reference model underneath AND their parent archetype (if for some reason the parent archetype is not available then you are completely screwed). Even if you say that people should

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-05 Thread Diego Boscá
My suggestion is for the this point Begin an open source software project for tools, web-based if possible, to author archetypes, templates and terminology reference sets directly interacting with the Clinical Knowledge Manager and equivalent repository and review tools I agree with the first

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-06 Thread Diego Boscá
In my experience. you only need 2 or 3 CKM web services: search (with different kinds of search) download. I think those two are really basic, and are also the ones that every repository must have (and depending on the application, those are enough). Some of the other web services (like freemind

openEHR Transition: two procedural and one licensing question

2011-09-06 Thread Diego Boscá
Good to hear about you! I hope everything is ok in Japan. I would encourage you to put the archetypes on the CKM anyway, as I would say that most of the available archetypes on the repository are in the same situation as your archetypes (the implicit 'use under your own responsibility') 2011/9/6

EN/ISO 13606 openEHR - harmonisation possibilities

2011-09-09 Thread Diego Boscá
There are already epSOS EN13606 archetypes http://www.epsos.eu/uploads/tx_epsosfileshare/D3.5.2_Appendix_G_EN13606_Implementation.pdf 2011/9/9 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: On 09/09/2011 14:01, Stef Verlinden wrote: Great initiative. Let's go for it. Even though I agree

EN/ISO 13606 openEHR - harmonisation possibilities

2011-09-09 Thread Diego Boscá
What part do you said is copied? ._. Here the archetypes in ADL http://en13606.webs.upv.es/web13606/index.php/activities/ceniso-13606-workshop-mie2011-oslo 2011/9/9 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: Diego, Are the archetypes online anywhere? As an aside, it is an interesting

EN/ISO 13606 openEHR - harmonisation possibilities

2011-09-10 Thread Diego Boscá
I currently don't have the norm with me, I'll check it on Monday morning. Second case looks like a typo on the schema, thanks for pointing it out. We will check it and correct it. We created a 13606 XML Schema (because there was none available) trying to follow the specifications (as we also did

EN/ISO 13606 openEHR - harmonisation possibilities

2011-09-10 Thread Diego Boscá
yes, what I mean is attributes like ID or even invalid characters in the names (like ':'). This is a problem with the parser (and also with classes identifiers) 2011/9/10 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: On 10/09/2011 12:59, Diego Bosc? wrote: This kind of problems has given

EN/ISO 13606 openEHR - harmonisation possibilities

2011-09-10 Thread Diego Boscá
ADL parser. and I am not saying it should be allowed, just that this kind of things happen :) 2011/9/10 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com Diego, I am not sure I understand that one - ':' is indeed illegal in most class / property identification systems - are you saying it

EN/ISO 13606 openEHR - harmonisation possibilities

2011-09-12 Thread Diego Boscá
':' are not valid as names in most operating systems, so it would be a problem even for adl file names. That's why I don't think it is wise to allow this one in particular. The other issue was already 'discussed' on the list http://www.openehr.org/mailarchives/openehr-technical/msg05294.html I

ADL - syntax highlight for Notepad++

2012-12-04 Thread Diego Boscá
Great job Pablo! 2012/12/4 pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com: Hi all, I've uploaded the ADL syntax highlighter for Notepad++ at the spanish openEHR portal: http://openehr.org.es/cms2/display/recursos This will be our main resource page, you are welcome to contribute. -- Kind regards,

Does XMLSerializer (java) create archetype slots with too much extra information?

2012-01-03 Thread Diego Boscá
This is a simple question: Why does a simple archetype slot like this (ADL) allow_archetype ELEMENT[at0001] occurrences matches {0..*} matches { -- Archetype slot include archetype_id/value matches {/.*/} } ends up like this? children xsi:type=ARCHETYPE_SLOT

Did anybody implement AQL with a LL parser framework?

2012-01-04 Thread Diego Boscá
So has AQL been selected as the official openEHR query language? 2012/1/4 Seref Arikan serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com: Greetings, The AQL grammar from the wiki has direct and indirect left recursion. Which means without changes in the grammar, LL parser generators (both JavaCC and

pass_through attribute in ADL 1.5

2012-01-05 Thread Diego Boscá
Put a couple of comments on the wiki, but I think it is a thing that should be discussed on the list. In ADL 1.5 a flag 'pass_through' was added. Its definition is 'Allows nodes required for structuring data but otherwise redundant for screen display and reporting to be detected by rendering

How is assumed value marked on domain types? (in XML)

2012-01-05 Thread Diego Boscá
In ADL, the assumed value of a domain type is marked like this: defining_code matches { [local:: at1000, -- Standing at1001, -- Sitting at1002, -- Reclining

How is assumed value marked on domain types? (in XML)

2012-01-06 Thread Diego Boscá
I am using XMLserializer from Java implementation 2012/1/6 Heath Frankel heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com: Diego, What tool are you using to generate your AOM XML? The tool issue tracker may be a more appropriate place for these tooling issues. Heath On 05/01/2012 10:34 PM, Diego

Constraints on class methods

2012-01-09 Thread Diego Boscá
When I was trying to validate an archetype with the reference model (openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.apgar), I found something strange on all 'event' archetypes. The EVENT class has a function (method) that calculates the offset. However, in that archetype the offset was restricted as if it was an

Constraints on class methods

2012-01-10 Thread Diego Boscá
Oh, this is the first time I have heard that functions can be constrained. However, AOM specifications say otherwise: C_attribute: a node representing a constraint on an attribute (i.e. UML ?relationship? or ?primitive attribute?) in an object type; (AOM specifications, page 12) This

Constraints on class methods

2012-01-11 Thread Diego Boscá
If you still say that properties can be restricted, then current stable validated bmm files are incorrect, as they are currently missing 90% of stored properties (all methods without parameters), like all the ones in ITEM_TABLE. 2012/1/10 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: On

pass_through attribute in ADL 1.5

2012-01-11 Thread Diego Boscá
If it is really needed for the moment for representing templates then it's OK with me (as long as we agree that this is a temporal thing), but I still feel that having two separated places to rule UI generation is a bad idea. I think that annotations could work for you (even creating a new

pass_through attribute in ADL 1.5

2012-01-13 Thread Diego Boscá
No, but they can be used for different things, from creating specific editors, to mindmaps or sample GUI generation 2012/1/13 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: On 13/01/2012 08:46, Diego Bosc? wrote: visible, allowed types, icon... ok - I understood those were settings

Constraints on class methods

2012-01-15 Thread Diego Boscá
Or simply using an assertion on the first place? 2012/1/15 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: A nicer approach could be as follows: we allow 'computed' attributes in the RM definition used by archetype tools, which will allow archetypes to be very clear and nice, e.g. in the

Constraints on class methods

2012-01-15 Thread Diego Boscá
I'm not sure if I have understood your question, but there isn't already assertion support on the AOM?. just put an assertion of the restricted and desired condition (in this case something like this: |event.time - history[at].origin|=P10M) I don't really see the big issue about defining

AOM XML Schema

2012-01-16 Thread Diego Boscá
After checking the schema, I have seen some places that the schema (specifically basetypes.xsd) is missing things that are indeed supported by ADL (namely assumed_values, lists, etc.) What is the process to update the schema?

Mind map module

2012-01-18 Thread Diego Boscá
We have included in LinkEHR a mindmap (freemind) generic transformation based on AOM and we also use Freemind Flash Browser to visualize it. Visualization is not the same as the one in CKM (as I told is generic, see this example http://i.imgur.com/FlLFY.png) and if you pass our LinkEHR reference

pass_through attribute in ADL 1.5

2012-01-25 Thread Diego Boscá
Would this attribute value change depending on where is the archetype used? i.e. if we use it on a GUI of a smartphone rather than a standalone or web application 2012/1/25 David Moner damoca at gmail.com: 2012/1/25 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com Maybe another way of

pass_through attribute in ADL 1.5

2012-01-26 Thread Diego Boscá
but they won't show everything on a 'full' GUI either. Maybe what is needed is not only a boolean but a way to tell exactly the criteria with different values of a controlled vocabulary, such as 'mandatory', 'recommended', 'passable'/'skippable'... 2012/1/26 David Moner damoca at gmail.com:

How to get the URL to an archetype on the CKM?

2012-01-26 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello Pablo, The way for accessing an archetype on the CKM from an URL is to build a URL similar to this http://www.openehr.org/knowledge/#showArchetypeById_openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.lab_test-lipids.v1

Constraints on displaying

2012-07-19 Thread Diego Boscá
I think she is referring to something like if patient is male then obstetrics field should be null, and those are created as invariants 2012/7/19 pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com: Hi Leysan, Archetypes are for content definition, not to define rules on field displaying on GUI. That

openEHR (local) terminologies

2012-03-01 Thread Diego Boscá
I sent this email when I thought the migration process was over, but it wasn't. I am sending it again, sorry if someone receives two copies :) Is there any place where openEHR local terminology files (e.g. the possible values from C_DV_QUANTITY.property or DV_CODED_TEXT.defining_code) can be

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-26 Thread Diego Boscá
Hello Bert, We created a XML Schema for the demographics part some time ago. You can download it from here. http://pangea.upv.es/linkehr/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/Demographics.xsd Regards 2012/11/26 Bert Verhees bert.verhees at rosa.nl: Hi, I was studying the OpenEHR XSD files, I found

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-28 Thread Diego Boscá
I didn't realize that the XSD file has no license. Please assume a CC-BY license, which is the same we use for 13606 schemas. 2012/11/28 Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se: Hi! I see several use cases for sending and storing XML pieces smaller than compositions etc as valid XML documents.

openEHRArchetypes/openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.ecg.v1: Is any_allowed...allowed?

2012-03-29 Thread Diego Boscá
Well, last time I checked the serialization and the schema this was one of the things I was not sure which was correct. I have to get some time to modify the schema with the missing things I detected some time ago 2012/3/29 Sebastian Garde sebastian.garde at oceaninformatics.com: The XML

question on DV_Ordinal standard representation

2012-04-04 Thread Diego Boscá
Yes, but what I mean is this DV_ORDINAL [at0006] matches { value matches {|2|} symbol matches { DV_CODED_TEXT matches { value matches {???} -- value is obligatory and I don't know what to put there

question on DV_Ordinal standard representation

2012-04-04 Thread Diego Boscá
yeah, but you are fixing everything else, because this is an alternative that would be chosen as a whole (if defining code is local::at0003 and value is 2 then dv_coded_text.value should also be fixed to whatever value is decided) 2012/4/4 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: On

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2012-04-23 Thread Diego Boscá
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Questions about ADL/AOM 1.5, archetype flattening and operational templates

2012-05-02 Thread Diego Boscá
Is the at from the solved slot lost? Is not possible to redefine the text or description and change it from the at of the included slot? I think it would be useful to have it somehow 2012/5/2 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com Hi Pablo, when archetypes are flattened,

Questions about ADL/AOM 1.5, archetype flattening and operational templates

2012-05-02 Thread Diego Boscá
Also, are the at from the resolved template changed in any way? I see EXTRACT_CHAPTER with [at0002] and ELEMENT with [at0002.1], which I think it may be changing specialization semantics 2012/5/2 Diego Bosc? yampeku at gmail.com: Is the at from the solved slot lost? Is not possible to

How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-06 Thread Diego Boscá
I would say the scope of that repository is different, as that is part of the test for current evolving 1.5 syntax and does not include 'real' archetypes 2012/5/6 Peter Gummer peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com: Hi Pablo, It makes more sense to me to add all of that to the existing

How about creating an openEHR test base?

2012-05-07 Thread Diego Boscá
Pablo also mentioned 'RM instances in a variety of formats', which are not 'artefacts'. 2012/5/7 Peter Gummer peter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com: Diego Bosc? wrote: I would say the scope of that repository is different, as that is part of the test for current evolving 1.5 syntax and does

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