Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-11-01 Thread Thomas Beale 


A revised version of the services landscape is now available here 
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Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-29 Thread Bert Verhees 
The reason I come to this is that services have a semantic meaning, also
the patient summary has.

And trend is that data in an healthcare application tend to be first
patient centric and than around that patient is a cloud of problems. I
think there is more, for example lifestyle.

But I already repeated this many times, and I guess application developers
will need to learn this the hard way. It is not just OpenEhr, it is just
that I feel involved with OpenEhr.

Thank you for coming back to this, I will await further discussions.

Best regards
Bert

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 08:27 Thomas Beale,  wrote:

> As mentioned elsewhere, while I completely agree on the lifestyle / sports
> / wellness needs in the wider e-health context, at the moment I am not sure
> if special SOA services are needed or not, since these kinds of data can be
> committed to the EHR using the generic EHR service, just as for any other
> kind of data - it's just different archetypes. It may be that special
> services for e.g. performance tracking or whatever are needed, but for now
> I'm assuming all that stuff is done by applications, not services.
>
> - thomas
>
> On 23/10/2018 22:10, Bert Verhees wrote:
>
>
> I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem
> related. Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on these.
> I think that is the near future, and not already planning them in will be a
> missed chance. The meaning of the term Healthcare will change to its true
> meaning. Care related to Health, not only illness. Lifestyle data will be
> important, already now insurance companies are registering if customers
> smoke or do sport, and which sport. Some people write down everything they
> eat.
>
> People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange information.
> Interestingly, an increasing number of people collect health data on their
> smartphone such as information about their mood, activity level, nutrition
> or vital signs including blood pressure or blood glucose levels. Medical
> research could greatly benefit from these ‘real life’ data. I think OpenEhr
> must be prepared for this to come, give it room, embrace it.
>
> The same counts for archetypes, there are no archetypes on CKM which are
> fit to register these kind of things.
>
> I had this discussion already a few times on OpenEhr mailinglists, I only
> got laughters as reply, that is why I hesitate to discuss it here, but with
> this, I give it one more chance, just for fun, not expecting any serious
> result.
>
>
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Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-29 Thread Thomas Beale 
As mentioned elsewhere, while I completely agree on the lifestyle / 
sports / wellness needs in the wider e-health context, at the moment I 
am not sure if special SOA services are needed or not, since these kinds 
of data can be committed to the EHR using the generic EHR service, just 
as for any other kind of data - it's just different archetypes. It may 
be that special services for e.g. performance tracking or whatever are 
needed, but for now I'm assuming all that stuff is done by applications, 
not services.


- thomas


On 23/10/2018 22:10, Bert Verhees wrote:



I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem 
related. Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on 
these. I think that is the near future, and not already planning them 
in will be a missed chance. The meaning of the term Healthcare will 
change to its true meaning. Care related to Health, not only illness. 
Lifestyle data will be important, already now insurance companies are 
registering if customers smoke or do sport, and which sport. Some 
people write down everything they eat.


People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange information. 
Interestingly, an increasing number of people collect health data on 
their smartphone such as information about their mood, activity 
level, nutrition or vital signs including blood pressure or blood 
glucose levels. Medical research could greatly benefit from these 
‘real life’ data. I think OpenEhr must be prepared for this to come, 
give it room, embrace it.


The same counts for archetypes, there are no archetypes on CKM which 
are fit to register these kind of things.


I had this discussion already a few times on OpenEhr mailinglists, I 
only got laughters as reply, that is why I hesitate to discuss it 
here, but with this, I give it one more chance, just for fun, not 
expecting any serious result.




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Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-25 Thread Bert Verhees 
That is very helpful. I think too that it will be beneficial for OpenEhr.
I will send you requirements within two weeks, and then we see where we go
from there,

Thanks very much for helping
Bert

Op do 25 okt. 2018 09:08 schreef Heather Leslie <
heather.les...@atomicainformatics.com>:

> I like the idea of some of the archetypes being compared to good wines 
>
>
>
> Another alternative is to submit the requirements you have identified,
> maybe best by email to me, and we can see how we might best be able to
> support you. It might not be a rapid turn around, though. I think getting
> these archetypes into good shape would be useful to many app developers.
>
>
>
> Would that be helpful to you?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Heather
>
>
>
> *From:* openEHR-technical  *On
> Behalf Of *Bert Verhees
> *Sent:* Thursday, 25 October 2018 5:24 PM
> *To:* For openEHR technical discussions <
> openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org>
> *Subject:* Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum
>
>
>
> Thanks for your advice, Heather. To be honest about this. The problem is
> that I did not study medical informatics, and I am not sure that archetypes
> I write will be regarded as good enough to stand in the showcase. I was
> hoping to get some interested to help with that, and then someone who is
> regarded as knowledgeable to get them in the place and keep them there.
> Because if that fails the work has been done in vain. And I have a busy
> life.
>
>
>
> But that plan failed. So now plan B. I have found decent datamodels to
> register different kind of sportactivities, and the archetypes you list
> will certainly help. So maybe I give it a try and people will after reading
> this, judge my work mildly.
>
>
>
> So thanks again, after my holiday (tomorrow I go), I will give it a try. I
> have already written quite a few archetypes, of reasonable quality, but of
> course not as matured as the good wines from CKM.
>
>
>
> best regards
>
> Bert
>
> Op do 25 okt. 2018 07:26 schreef Heather Leslie <
> heather.les...@atomicainformatics.com>:
>
> Hi Bert,
>
>
>
> The only way archetypes get included in CKM is that someone builds them
> and offers them for sharing. And scope for all archetypes includes your use
> case of consumer entered data, where it is appropriate. So if something you
> need is not there please work actively with us to improve the situation.
>
>
>
> I suggest that you propose candidate archetypes to CKM where they don’t
> exist or make change requests to existing ones where they need improvement.
>
>
>
> Consider:
>
>- Lifestyle factors -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1648
>- Story/History - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.68.
>Named ‘story’ precisely to be inclusive of consumer entered data.
>- Goal - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.124
>- Physical activity summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2877
>- Tobacco smoking summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2466
>- Smokeless tobacco summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2817
>- Tobacco use - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1629
>– needs to be internalised from the old NEHTA CKM and updated with more
>recent patterns
>- Alcohol consumption summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1521
>- Alcohol intake https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216
>– also needs to be updated with more recent patterns
>- Substance use – https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.146
>- needs an update based on further requirements and finalisation of other
>OBS patters for tobacco and alcohol
>- Food item - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1922
>- Dietary nutrients -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2745.
>- Micronutrients -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2744
>- Fetal movement -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216
>
> And all the others that are applicable across all domains…
>
>- Story
>- Body weight
>- Height
>- Waist circumference
>- BMI
>- Vital signs – Blood pressure, pulse, temperature
>- Family History
>- Problems
>- Adverse reactions
>- Menstrual cycle
>
>
>
> They may not be ready for use out of the box for your purpose or published
> or covering all potential concepts, but there are a considerable number
> that are applicable for use by consumers and are not a b

RE: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-25 Thread Heather Leslie 
I like the idea of some of the archetypes being compared to good wines 

Another alternative is to submit the requirements you have identified, maybe 
best by email to me, and we can see how we might best be able to support you. 
It might not be a rapid turn around, though. I think getting these archetypes 
into good shape would be useful to many app developers.

Would that be helpful to you?

Cheers

Heather

From: openEHR-technical  On Behalf 
Of Bert Verhees
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 5:24 PM
To: For openEHR technical discussions 
Subject: Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

Thanks for your advice, Heather. To be honest about this. The problem is that I 
did not study medical informatics, and I am not sure that archetypes I write 
will be regarded as good enough to stand in the showcase. I was hoping to get 
some interested to help with that, and then someone who is regarded as 
knowledgeable to get them in the place and keep them there. Because if that 
fails the work has been done in vain. And I have a busy life.

But that plan failed. So now plan B. I have found decent datamodels to register 
different kind of sportactivities, and the archetypes you list will certainly 
help. So maybe I give it a try and people will after reading this, judge my 
work mildly.

So thanks again, after my holiday (tomorrow I go), I will give it a try. I have 
already written quite a few archetypes, of reasonable quality, but of course 
not as matured as the good wines from CKM.

best regards
Bert
Op do 25 okt. 2018 07:26 schreef Heather Leslie 
mailto:heather.les...@atomicainformatics.com>>:
Hi Bert,

The only way archetypes get included in CKM is that someone builds them and 
offers them for sharing. And scope for all archetypes includes your use case of 
consumer entered data, where it is appropriate. So if something you need is not 
there please work actively with us to improve the situation.

I suggest that you propose candidate archetypes to CKM where they don’t exist 
or make change requests to existing ones where they need improvement.

Consider:

  *   Lifestyle factors - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1648
  *   Story/History - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.68. 
Named ‘story’ precisely to be inclusive of consumer entered data.
  *   Goal - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.124
  *   Physical activity summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2877
  *   Tobacco smoking summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2466
  *   Smokeless tobacco summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2817
  *   Tobacco use - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1629 – 
needs to be internalised from the old NEHTA CKM and updated with more recent 
patterns
  *   Alcohol consumption summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1521
  *   Alcohol intake https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216 – 
also needs to be updated with more recent patterns
  *   Substance use – https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.146 - 
needs an update based on further requirements and finalisation of other OBS 
patters for tobacco and alcohol
  *   Food item - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1922
  *   Dietary nutrients - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2745.
  *   Micronutrients - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2744
  *   Fetal movement - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216
And all the others that are applicable across all domains…

  *   Story
  *   Body weight
  *   Height
  *   Waist circumference
  *   BMI
  *   Vital signs – Blood pressure, pulse, temperature
  *   Family History
  *   Problems
  *   Adverse reactions
  *   Menstrual cycle

They may not be ready for use out of the box for your purpose or published or 
covering all potential concepts, but there are a considerable number that are 
applicable for use by consumers and are not a bad starting point.

Kind regards

Heather

From: openEHR-technical 
mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org>>
 On Behalf Of Bert Verhees
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2018 6:10 AM
To: 
openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org>
Subject: Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum


I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem related. 
Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on these. I think that 
is the near future, and not already planning them in will be a missed chance. 
The meaning of the term Healthcare will change to its true meaning. Care 
related to Health, not only illness. Lifestyle data will be important, already 
now insurance companies are registering if customers smoke or do sport, and 
which sport. Some people write down everything they eat.

People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange informati

Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-25 Thread Bert Verhees 
Thanks for your advice, Heather. To be honest about this. The problem is
that I did not study medical informatics, and I am not sure that archetypes
I write will be regarded as good enough to stand in the showcase. I was
hoping to get some interested to help with that, and then someone who is
regarded as knowledgeable to get them in the place and keep them there.
Because if that fails the work has been done in vain. And I have a busy
life.

But that plan failed. So now plan B. I have found decent datamodels to
register different kind of sportactivities, and the archetypes you list
will certainly help. So maybe I give it a try and people will after reading
this, judge my work mildly.

So thanks again, after my holiday (tomorrow I go), I will give it a try. I
have already written quite a few archetypes, of reasonable quality, but of
course not as matured as the good wines from CKM.

best regards
Bert

Op do 25 okt. 2018 07:26 schreef Heather Leslie <
heather.les...@atomicainformatics.com>:

> Hi Bert,
>
>
>
> The only way archetypes get included in CKM is that someone builds them
> and offers them for sharing. And scope for all archetypes includes your use
> case of consumer entered data, where it is appropriate. So if something you
> need is not there please work actively with us to improve the situation.
>
>
>
> I suggest that you propose candidate archetypes to CKM where they don’t
> exist or make change requests to existing ones where they need improvement.
>
>
>
> Consider:
>
>- Lifestyle factors -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1648
>- Story/History - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.68.
>Named ‘story’ precisely to be inclusive of consumer entered data.
>- Goal - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.124
>- Physical activity summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2877
>- Tobacco smoking summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2466
>- Smokeless tobacco summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2817
>- Tobacco use - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1629
>– needs to be internalised from the old NEHTA CKM and updated with more
>recent patterns
>- Alcohol consumption summary -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1521
>- Alcohol intake https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216
>– also needs to be updated with more recent patterns
>- Substance use – https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.146
>- needs an update based on further requirements and finalisation of other
>OBS patters for tobacco and alcohol
>- Food item - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1922
>- Dietary nutrients -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2745.
>- Micronutrients -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2744
>- Fetal movement -
>https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216
>
> And all the others that are applicable across all domains…
>
>- Story
>- Body weight
>- Height
>- Waist circumference
>- BMI
>- Vital signs – Blood pressure, pulse, temperature
>- Family History
>- Problems
>- Adverse reactions
>- Menstrual cycle
>
>
>
> They may not be ready for use out of the box for your purpose or published
> or covering all potential concepts, but there are a considerable number
> that are applicable for use by consumers and are not a bad starting point.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Heather
>
>
>
> *From:* openEHR-technical  *On
> Behalf Of *Bert Verhees
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 October 2018 6:10 AM
> *To:* openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org
> *Subject:* Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum
>
>
>
>
> I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem
> related. Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on these.
> I think that is the near future, and not already planning them in will be a
> missed chance. The meaning of the term Healthcare will change to its true
> meaning. Care related to Health, not only illness. Lifestyle data will be
> important, already now insurance companies are registering if customers
> smoke or do sport, and which sport. Some people write down everything they
> eat.
>
> People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange information.
> Interestingly, an increasing number of people collect health data on their
> smartphone such as information about their mood, activity level, nutrition
> or vital signs including blood pressure or blood glucose levels. Medical
> research could greatly benefit

RE: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-24 Thread Heather Leslie 
Hi Bert,

The only way archetypes get included in CKM is that someone builds them and 
offers them for sharing. And scope for all archetypes includes your use case of 
consumer entered data, where it is appropriate. So if something you need is not 
there please work actively with us to improve the situation.

I suggest that you propose candidate archetypes to CKM where they don’t exist 
or make change requests to existing ones where they need improvement.

Consider:

  *   Lifestyle factors - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1648
  *   Story/History - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.68. 
Named ‘story’ precisely to be inclusive of consumer entered data.
  *   Goal - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.124
  *   Physical activity summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2877
  *   Tobacco smoking summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2466
  *   Smokeless tobacco summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2817
  *   Tobacco use - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1629 – 
needs to be internalised from the old NEHTA CKM and updated with more recent 
patterns
  *   Alcohol consumption summary - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1521
  *   Alcohol intake https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216 – 
also needs to be updated with more recent patterns
  *   Substance use – https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.146 - 
needs an update based on further requirements and finalisation of other OBS 
patters for tobacco and alcohol
  *   Food item - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1922
  *   Dietary nutrients - 
https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2745.
  *   Micronutrients - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2744
  *   Fetal movement - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216
And all the others that are applicable across all domains…

  *   Story
  *   Body weight
  *   Height
  *   Waist circumference
  *   BMI
  *   Vital signs – Blood pressure, pulse, temperature
  *   Family History
  *   Problems
  *   Adverse reactions
  *   Menstrual cycle

They may not be ready for use out of the box for your purpose or published or 
covering all potential concepts, but there are a considerable number that are 
applicable for use by consumers and are not a bad starting point.

Kind regards

Heather

From: openEHR-technical  On Behalf 
Of Bert Verhees
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2018 6:10 AM
To: openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org
Subject: Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum


I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem related. 
Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on these. I think that 
is the near future, and not already planning them in will be a missed chance. 
The meaning of the term Healthcare will change to its true meaning. Care 
related to Health, not only illness. Lifestyle data will be important, already 
now insurance companies are registering if customers smoke or do sport, and 
which sport. Some people write down everything they eat.

People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange information. 
Interestingly, an increasing number of people collect health data on their 
smartphone such as information about their mood, activity level, nutrition or 
vital signs including blood pressure or blood glucose levels. Medical research 
could greatly benefit from these ‘real life’ data. I think OpenEhr must be 
prepared for this to come, give it room, embrace it.

The same counts for archetypes, there are no archetypes on CKM which are fit to 
register these kind of things.

I had this discussion already a few times on OpenEhr mailinglists, I only got 
laughters as reply, that is why I hesitate to discuss it here, but with this, I 
give it one more chance, just for fun, not expecting any serious result.

On 23-10-18 16:58, Thomas Beale wrote:

Every so often I get bored of what I am doing and start trying to draw one of 
those 'services roadmap' kind of diagrams. These often pretty pictures appear 
in slide presentations, in standards, whitepapers etc, but are not often used 
as a tool to help map out the road ahead. We do however need some sort of 
vision of the future for staking out new services. I like my latest version 
enough that I thought it would be worth putting up publicly to get reactions 
and input.

Please comment and/or add content to the wiki 
page<https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/spec/pages/357957633/Services+Landscape+for+e-Health>.

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- thomas




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Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-23 Thread Bert Verhees 
I do not see my message appear on the archive. Maybe it has to do with 
formatting, I saw to late that there was quite some formatting in my 
previous message. I try replying without formatting.

Sorry if it will appear twice on the list.

I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem 
related. Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on 
these. I think that is the near future, and not already planning them in 
will be a missed chance. The meaning of the term Healthcare will change 
to its true meaning. Care related to Health, not only illness. Lifestyle 
data will be important, already now insurance companies are registering 
if customers smoke or do sport, and which sport. Some people write down 
everything they eat.


People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange information. 
Interestingly, an increasing number of people collect health data on 
their smartphone such as information about their mood, activity level, 
nutrition or vital signs including blood pressure or blood glucose 
levels. Medical research could greatly benefit from these ‘real life’ 
data. I think OpenEhr must be prepared for this to come, give it room, 
embrace it.


The same counts for archetypes, there are no archetypes on CKM which are 
fit to register these kind of things.


I had this discussion already a few times on OpenEhr mailinglists, I 
only got laughters as reply, that is why I hesitate to discuss it here, 
but with this, I give it one more chance, just for fun, not expecting 
any serious result.


On 23-10-18 16:58, Thomas Beale wrote:


Every so often I get bored of what I am doing and start trying to draw 
one of those 'services roadmap' kind of diagrams. These often pretty 
pictures appear in slide presentations, in standards, whitepapers etc, 
but are not often used as a tool to help map out the road ahead. We do 
however need some sort of vision of the future for staking out new 
services. I like my latest version enough that I thought it would be 
worth putting up publicly to get reactions and input.


Please comment and/or add content to the wiki page 
.




- thomas


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Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-23 Thread Bert Verhees 


I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem 
related. Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on 
these. I think that is the near future, and not already planning them in 
will be a missed chance. The meaning of the term Healthcare will change 
to its true meaning. Care related to Health, not only illness. Lifestyle 
data will be important, already now insurance companies are registering 
if customers smoke or do sport, and which sport. Some people write down 
everything they eat.


People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange information. 
Interestingly, an increasing number of people collect health data on 
their smartphone such as information about their mood, activity 
level, nutrition or vital signs including blood pressure or blood 
glucose levels. Medical research could greatly benefit from these ‘real 
life’ data. I think OpenEhr must be prepared for this to come, give it 
room, embrace it.


The same counts for archetypes, there are no archetypes on CKM which are 
fit to register these kind of things.


I had this discussion already a few times on OpenEhr mailinglists, I 
only got laughters as reply, that is why I hesitate to discuss it here, 
but with this, I give it one more chance, just for fun, not expecting 
any serious result.



On 23-10-18 16:58, Thomas Beale wrote:


Every so often I get bored of what I am doing and start trying to draw 
one of those 'services roadmap' kind of diagrams. These often pretty 
pictures appear in slide presentations, in standards, whitepapers etc, 
but are not often used as a tool to help map out the road ahead. We do 
however need some sort of vision of the future for staking out new 
services. I like my latest version enough that I thought it would be 
worth putting up publicly to get reactions and input.


Please comment and/or add content to the wiki page 
.




- thomas


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