Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-07-03 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
From: Paul Barker Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:28 PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson Cc: openembedded-core; tools-cfpbuild-internal Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 20:29, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > > O

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Barker
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 20:29, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > > OE-core today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb > and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. > > When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is > spent

[OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-07-02 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
OE-core today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is spent in the phase of generating a rootfs, which is really about the per

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-07-01 Thread Alejandro del Castillo
sday, June 30, 2020 11:54 PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson Cc: Ross Burton; OE-core; tools-cfpbuild-internal Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 07:01:23PM +, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: Hi Ross, those 5 seconds will increase to minutes for my use case and

[OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-07-01 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
OE-core today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is spent in the phase of generating a rootfs, which is really about the per

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Martin Jansa
Yes, I thought we at @lge do a lot of builds, but after checking our statistics we average "only" around 30,000 builds per week in last 5 years. But on the other hand, our typical image is quite big (between 300MB and 1GB for enduser image and between 700MG and 1.5GB for developer images depending

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Andre McCurdy
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:54 PM Martin Jansa wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 07:01:23PM +, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > > Hi Ross, > > those 5 seconds will increase to minutes for my use case and we build a lot > > hence I hope this will save us a lot of computer power and engineering time. >

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG2P9k6EjA BR Fredrik From: Martin Jansa Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:54 PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson Cc: Ross Burton; OE-core; tools-cfpbuild-internal Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin On Tue, Jun 30, 2020

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Martin Jansa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 07:01:23PM +, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > Hi Ross, > those 5 seconds will increase to minutes for my use case and we build a lot > hence I hope this will save us a lot of computer power and engineering time. > For example I've sent numbers on building a bigger image > (

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Alex Stewart
Hey Fredrik, On 6/30/20 1:38 PM, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: I added apk to your script and then ran That is not supportive of my statement of ipk being the slowest package manager. That statement come from timing tests done with our proprietary version of poky that is somewhat extended when it

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson Cc: OE-core; tools-cfpbuild-internal; Hugo Cedervall Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 11:14, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb > and rpm is supported a

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
ne 30, 2020 5:43 PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson Cc: OE-core; tools-cfpbuild-internal; Hugo Cedervall Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin What I meant is that 15s vs 20s on a small image could have been 5 min vs 5min5s on a bigger image, so I wanted to see that the difference does sca

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
ore; tools-cfpbuild-internal; Hugo Cedervall Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 11:21, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > > Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb > and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good f

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
bedded.org on behalf of Alex Stewart Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:18 PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson; openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org Cc: tools-cfpbuild-internal; Hugo Cedervall; Alejandro Del Castillo Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin On 6/23/20 6:13 AM, Fredrik

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Alexander Kanavin
; > (Excuse my late reply, running core-image-sato-sdk-ptest uncovered a few > bugs in the implementation of apk in OE. So thanks for having me testing > this image) > > > /Fredrik > > > -- > *From:* Alexander Kanavin > *Sent:* Thu

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Khem Raj
On 6/26/20 3:52 AM, Ross Burton wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 11:14, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. When building and having a good cache hit, a sign

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
23, 2020 8:50 PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson Cc: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org; tools-cfpbuild-internal; Hugo Cedervall Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin You mentioned Poky few times below - why is it Poky-specific? Since you are not submitting this change to Poky, bu

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-30 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
k From: Alexander Kanavin Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:24 PM To: Fredrik Gustafsson Cc: OE-core; tools-cfpbuild-internal; Hugo Cedervall Subject: Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin Apologies, but these metrics do not look particularly convincing -

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-26 Thread Tim Orling
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:53 AM Ross Burton wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 11:14, Fredrik Gustafsson > wrote: > > Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats > deb > > and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. > > > > When building and h

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-26 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 11:14, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb > and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. > > When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is > spent in

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-25 Thread Paul Barker
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 11:21, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > > Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb > and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. > > When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is > spent i

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-25 Thread Alexander Kanavin
Apologies, but these metrics do not look particularly convincing - 15s vs 20s? Can you try it with an image several gigabytes in size? Core-image-sato-sdk-ptest is a good option. Alex On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 12:14, Fredrik Gustafsson < fredrik.gustafs...@axis.com> wrote: > Poky today has three di

[OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-25 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is spent in the phase of generating a rootfs, which is really about the perfor

[OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-25 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is spent in the phase of generating a rootfs, which is really about the perfor

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-24 Thread Alex Stewart
On 6/23/20 6:13 AM, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is spent in the phase of generating a rootfs, which is really about the performance of the package manager. ipkg is way slower than deb or rpm. I was interested enough in your com

Re: [OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-23 Thread Denys Dmytriyenko
You mentioned Poky few times below - why is it Poky-specific? Since you are not submitting this change to Poky, but to OE-Core instead, can this be used by other OE distros? -- Denys On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 01:13:26PM +0200, Fredrik Gustafsson wrote: > Poky today has three different package m

[OE-core] Add package managers as a plugin

2020-06-23 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
Poky today has three different package managers, the well-known formats deb and rpm is supported as well as ipkg that is good for embedded devices. When building and having a good cache hit, a significant amount of time is spent in the phase of generating a rootfs, which is really about the perfor