Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-21 Thread Chen Qi

On 11/19/21 7:26 PM, Luca Boccassi wrote:

On Fri, 2021-11-19 at 09:43 +0800, ChenQi wrote:

Hi Luca,

If the real useful part is only about systemd-analyze in case of
nativesdk/native, I'd suggest adding systemd-analyze-native or
nativesdk-systemd-analyze instead of extending the current systemd
recipe.
This is because systemd has a whole bunch of dependencies which
basically make no sense in case of native/nativesdk. Looking at the
src/analyze/meson.build file, I guess it could be built
independently.

Regards,
Qi

Hi,

Building individual binaries like that is not supported, so it cannot
work.



Thanks for your clarification.

Regards,

Qi



On 11/17/21 8:31 PM, Luca Bocassi wrote:
From: Luca Boccassi 

systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to detect
errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
analyzer tool.
This series enables building the systemd recipe for the nativesdk
targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
called by users/build systems/CI systems.

Luca Boccassi (8):
   systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
   systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
   systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
   volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
   volatile-binds: add nativesdk
   kbd: add nativesdk
   os-release: add nativesdk
   systemd: add nativesdk

  meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb|  2 +-
  meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb|  2 ++
  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
  .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb|  2 ++
  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb| 29
+--
  .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb  |  7 +
  6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

  
  




  




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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-19 Thread Luca Bocassi
On Fri, 2021-11-19 at 09:43 +0800, ChenQi wrote:
> Hi Luca,
> 
> If the real useful part is only about systemd-analyze in case of
> nativesdk/native, I'd suggest adding systemd-analyze-native or
> nativesdk-systemd-analyze instead of extending the current systemd
> recipe.
> This is because systemd has a whole bunch of dependencies which
> basically make no sense in case of native/nativesdk. Looking at the
> src/analyze/meson.build file, I guess it could be built
> independently.
> 
> Regards,
> Qi

Hi,

Building individual binaries like that is not supported, so it cannot
work.

> On 11/17/21 8:31 PM, Luca Bocassi wrote:
> From: Luca Boccassi 
> 
> systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
> run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
> This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to detect
> errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
> analyzer tool.
> This series enables building the systemd recipe for the nativesdk
> targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
> called by users/build systems/CI systems.
> 
> Luca Boccassi (8):
>   systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
>   systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
>   systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
>   volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
>   volatile-binds: add nativesdk
>   kbd: add nativesdk
>   os-release: add nativesdk
>   systemd: add nativesdk
> 
>  meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb|  2 +-
>  meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb|  2 ++
>  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
>  .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb|  2 ++
>  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb| 29
> +--
>  .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb  |  7 +
>  6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  



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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-18 Thread Chen Qi

Hi Luca,

If the real useful part is only about systemd-analyze in case of 
nativesdk/native, I'd suggest adding systemd-analyze-native or 
nativesdk-systemd-analyze instead of extending the current systemd recipe.
This is because systemd has a whole bunch of dependencies which 
basically make no sense in case of native/nativesdk. Looking at the 
src/analyze/meson.build file, I guess it could be built independently.


Regards,
Qi

On 11/17/21 8:31 PM, Luca Bocassi wrote:

From: Luca Boccassi 

systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to detect
errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
analyzer tool.
This series enables building the systemd recipe for the nativesdk
targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
called by users/build systems/CI systems.

Luca Boccassi (8):
   systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
   systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
   systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
   volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
   volatile-binds: add nativesdk
   kbd: add nativesdk
   os-release: add nativesdk
   systemd: add nativesdk

  meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb|  2 +-
  meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb|  2 ++
  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
  .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb|  2 ++
  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb| 29 +--
  .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb  |  7 +
  6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)







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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 19:05, Luca Boccassi  wrote:

> > This patchset allows systemd binaries to be used in SDKs; what I
> > would like to see is that those binaries are built and used directly
> > in yocto builds. E.g. systemd recipe gains BBCLASSEXTEND = "native",
> > systemd.bbclass gets DEPENDS = "systemd-native" and then uses the
> > native systemd binaries in the same way you want to use them in your
> > private SDK-based pipelines.
>
> Sounds good to me, feel free to go ahead and send patches to do that.
> It's unrelated to this series and to my requirements, and I have no use
> for it, so I will not be spending any time chasing down various rabbit
> holes to make it work, sorry.
>

Please consider the needs of the project and the community too. From that
perspective I do think any QA enhancement must be available to users of
bitbake before it's available to users of SDK (and even then, without any
regression testing upstream, and only if they set up special SDK plumbing
in private CI pipelines). Doing otherwise sets a bad precedent in my
opinion.

Alex

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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Luca Bocassi
On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 18:49 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 18:41, Luca Boccassi 
> wrote:
> > > This is packaging the tool for the target images; what I propose
> > is
> > > that it's built and used natively.
> > 
> > Which is what this patchset does? Again you can't build these
> > recipes
> > to run locally without these changes, that's the entire point
> 
> This patchset allows systemd binaries to be used in SDKs; what I
> would like to see is that those binaries are built and used directly
> in yocto builds. E.g. systemd recipe gains BBCLASSEXTEND = "native",
> systemd.bbclass gets DEPENDS = "systemd-native" and then uses the
> native systemd binaries in the same way you want to use them in your
> private SDK-based pipelines. 

Sounds good to me, feel free to go ahead and send patches to do that.
It's unrelated to this series and to my requirements, and I have no use
for it, so I will not be spending any time chasing down various rabbit
holes to make it work, sorry.

-- 
Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi


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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 18:41, Luca Boccassi  wrote:

> > This is packaging the tool for the target images; what I propose is
> > that it's built and used natively.
>
> Which is what this patchset does? Again you can't build these recipes
> to run locally without these changes, that's the entire point
>

This patchset allows systemd binaries to be used in SDKs; what I would like
to see is that those binaries are built and used directly in yocto builds.
E.g. systemd recipe gains BBCLASSEXTEND = "native", systemd.bbclass gets
DEPENDS = "systemd-native" and then uses the native systemd binaries in the
same way you want to use them in your private SDK-based pipelines.

Alex

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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Luca Bocassi
On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 17:44 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 17:11, Luca Boccassi 
> wrote:
> > > What I'm trying to say is running those systemd analyzers should
> > be
> > > enabled in regular yocto builds first before it's enabled in
> > SDKs.
> > > It's not a good idea to have a feature that is available in SDKs
> > but
> > > not available in direct use of bitbake to build recipes.
> > > 
> > > Alex
> > 
> > But it is already available? And it has been for a long time:
> > 
> > https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb#n411
> 
> This is packaging the tool for the target images; what I propose is
> that it's built and used natively.

Which is what this patchset does? Again you can't build these recipes
to run locally without these changes, that's the entire point

-- 
Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi


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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 17:11, Luca Boccassi  wrote:

> > What I'm trying to say is running those systemd analyzers should be
> > enabled in regular yocto builds first before it's enabled in SDKs.
> > It's not a good idea to have a feature that is available in SDKs but
> > not available in direct use of bitbake to build recipes.
> >
> > Alex
>
> But it is already available? And it has been for a long time:
>
>
> https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb#n411


This is packaging the tool for the target images; what I propose is that
it's built and used natively.

Alex

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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Luca Bocassi
On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 16:07 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 15:59, Luca Boccassi 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 13:53 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> > > Shouldn't this be enabled in regular yocto builds first, e.g.
> > allow
> > > systemd-native and then add the needed checks to systemd.bbclass?
> > > Maybe nativesdk support isn't then needed at all?
> > > 
> > > Alex
> > 
> > I'm not sure I follow, that would break the build? These changes
> > are
> > necessary to make it work. I am including the package in the local
> > sdk
> > configuration, without these patches it does not build.
> > 
> 
> 
> What I'm trying to say is running those systemd analyzers should be
> enabled in regular yocto builds first before it's enabled in SDKs.
> It's not a good idea to have a feature that is available in SDKs but
> not available in direct use of bitbake to build recipes.
> 
> Alex

But it is already available? And it has been for a long time:

https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb#n411

> > 
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 13:32, Luca Bocassi
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > From: Luca Boccassi 
> > > > 
> > > > systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
> > > > run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
> > > > This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to
> > detect
> > > > errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
> > > > analyzer tool.
> > > > This series enables building the systemd recipe for the
> > nativesdk
> > > > targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
> > > > called by users/build systems/CI systems.
> > > > 
> > > > Luca Boccassi (8):
> > > >   systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
> > > >   systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
> > > >   systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
> > > >   volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
> > > >   volatile-binds: add nativesdk
> > > >   kbd: add nativesdk
> > > >   os-release: add nativesdk
> > > >   systemd: add nativesdk
> > > > 
> > > >  meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb            |  2 +-
> > > >  meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb    |  2 ++
> > > >  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
> > > >  .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb            |  2 ++
> > > >  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb    | 29
> > > > +--
> > > >  .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb          |  7 +
> > > >  6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > 



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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 15:59, Luca Boccassi  wrote:

> On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 13:53 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> > Shouldn't this be enabled in regular yocto builds first, e.g. allow
> > systemd-native and then add the needed checks to systemd.bbclass?
> > Maybe nativesdk support isn't then needed at all?
> >
> > Alex
>
> I'm not sure I follow, that would break the build? These changes are
> necessary to make it work. I am including the package in the local sdk
> configuration, without these patches it does not build.
>

What I'm trying to say is running those systemd analyzers should be enabled
in regular yocto builds first before it's enabled in SDKs. It's not a good
idea to have a feature that is available in SDKs but not available in
direct use of bitbake to build recipes.

Alex



>
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 13:32, Luca Bocassi 
> > wrote:
> > > From: Luca Boccassi 
> > >
> > > systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
> > > run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
> > > This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to detect
> > > errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
> > > analyzer tool.
> > > This series enables building the systemd recipe for the nativesdk
> > > targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
> > > called by users/build systems/CI systems.
> > >
> > > Luca Boccassi (8):
> > >   systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
> > >   systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
> > >   systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
> > >   volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
> > >   volatile-binds: add nativesdk
> > >   kbd: add nativesdk
> > >   os-release: add nativesdk
> > >   systemd: add nativesdk
> > >
> > >  meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb|  2 +-
> > >  meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb|  2 ++
> > >  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
> > >  .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb|  2 ++
> > >  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb| 29
> > > +--
> > >  .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb  |  7 +
> > >  6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
>
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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Luca Bocassi
On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 13:53 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> Shouldn't this be enabled in regular yocto builds first, e.g. allow
> systemd-native and then add the needed checks to systemd.bbclass?
> Maybe nativesdk support isn't then needed at all?
> 
> Alex

I'm not sure I follow, that would break the build? These changes are
necessary to make it work. I am including the package in the local sdk
configuration, without these patches it does not build.

> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 13:32, Luca Bocassi 
> wrote:
> > From: Luca Boccassi 
> > 
> > systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
> > run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
> > This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to detect
> > errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
> > analyzer tool.
> > This series enables building the systemd recipe for the nativesdk
> > targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
> > called by users/build systems/CI systems.
> > 
> > Luca Boccassi (8):
> >   systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
> >   systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
> >   systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
> >   volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
> >   volatile-binds: add nativesdk
> >   kbd: add nativesdk
> >   os-release: add nativesdk
> >   systemd: add nativesdk
> > 
> >  meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb            |  2 +-
> >  meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb    |  2 ++
> >  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
> >  .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb            |  2 ++
> >  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb    | 29
> > +--
> >  .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb          |  7 +
> >  6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > 



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Re: [OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Alexander Kanavin
Shouldn't this be enabled in regular yocto builds first, e.g. allow
systemd-native and then add the needed checks to systemd.bbclass? Maybe
nativesdk support isn't then needed at all?

Alex

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 13:32, Luca Bocassi  wrote:

> From: Luca Boccassi 
>
> systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
> run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
> This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to detect
> errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
> analyzer tool.
> This series enables building the systemd recipe for the nativesdk
> targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
> called by users/build systems/CI systems.
>
> Luca Boccassi (8):
>   systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
>   systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
>   systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
>   volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
>   volatile-binds: add nativesdk
>   kbd: add nativesdk
>   os-release: add nativesdk
>   systemd: add nativesdk
>
>  meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb|  2 +-
>  meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb|  2 ++
>  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
>  .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb|  2 ++
>  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb| 29 +--
>  .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb  |  7 +
>  6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.30.2
>
>
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[OE-core] [PATCH 0/8] systemd: allow building for nativesdk

2021-11-17 Thread Luca Bocassi
From: Luca Boccassi 

systemd-analyze in the next release will gain the ability to
run the 'security' and 'verify' verbs offline, on local units.
This is very useful at build time and/or in CI systems to detect
errors and issues before changes are deployed, as a static
analyzer tool.
This series enables building the systemd recipe for the nativesdk
targets, so that systemd-analyze can be included in the SDK and
called by users/build systems/CI systems.

Luca Boccassi (8):
  systemd: skip chown when building for nativesdk
  systemd: skip postinst in nativesdk builds
  systemd: remove /var in nativesdk builds
  volatile-binds: remove /var in nativesdk builds
  volatile-binds: add nativesdk
  kbd: add nativesdk
  os-release: add nativesdk
  systemd: add nativesdk

 meta/recipes-core/kbd/kbd_2.4.0.bb|  2 +-
 meta/recipes-core/os-release/os-release.bb|  2 ++
 meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb |  2 ++
 .../systemd/systemd-serialgetty.bb|  2 ++
 meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_249.5.bb| 29 +--
 .../volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb  |  7 +
 6 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

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