Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-18 Thread Richard Purdie
On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 11:03 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:42:54AM +0200, Philip Balister wrote: On 08/11/2015 10:46 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Burton, Ross ross.bur...@intel.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-18 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:26:45PM +0300, Alexander Kanavin wrote: On 08/07/2015 12:17 PM, Philip Balister wrote: Thanks Khem. I also do not agree that we lack a self-sustaining community. OpenEmbedded has functioned independently for far longer than the Yocto Project has existed. By

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-18 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On 08/18/2015 10:54 AM, Martin Jansa wrote: Now we see a lot of upgrades in oe-core which are done by people just because package upgrade report says it's possible and the upgrade is tested mostly by autobuilder (which doesn't exersize any extra layers and runtime-test coverage is very low) -

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-18 Thread Richard Purdie
On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 13:16 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: Is it still true that autobuilder cannot test different sets of layers for different builds? It would be nice to see meta-gplv2 as separate layer, but tested and maintained as it is now inside oe-core (possibly with more help from

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-18 Thread Martin Jansa
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:11:11AM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 11:03 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:42:54AM +0200, Philip Balister wrote: On 08/11/2015 10:46 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Burton, Ross

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-18 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:42:54AM +0200, Philip Balister wrote: On 08/11/2015 10:46 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Burton, Ross ross.bur...@intel.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread please.

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-13 Thread Philip Balister
On 08/11/2015 10:46 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Burton, Ross ross.bur...@intel.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread please. Or more usefully, reboot it. Philip, you're turning into Koen! Alex,

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-13 Thread Mark Hatle
On 8/13/15 3:42 AM, Philip Balister wrote: On 08/11/2015 10:46 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Burton, Ross ross.bur...@intel.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread please. Or more usefully, reboot

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-13 Thread Andre McCurdy
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Philip Balister phi...@balister.org wrote: On 08/11/2015 10:46 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Burton, Ross ross.bur...@intel.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Hatle
On 8/11/15 3:36 PM, Burton, Ross wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com mailto:raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread please. Or more usefully, reboot it. Philip, you're turning into Koen! Alex, if someone on this list asks what Poky is, 99%

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-11 Thread Khem Raj
On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Burton, Ross ross.bur...@intel.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com mailto:raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread please. Or more usefully, reboot it. Philip, you're turning into Koen! Alex, if someone on this

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-11 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On 08/10/2015 10:15 PM, Philip Balister wrote: This is perfectly fine with me. However, the subject has been whether the scope of *oe-core/poky* can be expanded without compromising What is Poky? Uhm... http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/about/ Alex --

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-11 Thread Khem Raj
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:26 AM, Alexander Kanavin alexander.kana...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 08/10/2015 10:15 PM, Philip Balister wrote: This is perfectly fine with me. However, the subject has been whether the scope of *oe-core/poky* can be expanded without compromising What is Poky?

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-11 Thread Burton, Ross
On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread please. Or more usefully, reboot it. Philip, you're turning into Koen! Alex, if someone on this list asks what Poky is, 99% of the time they're trolling. :) The original and unanswered question was

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-11 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Burton, Ross ross.bur...@intel.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 16:46, Khem Raj raj.k...@gmail.com wrote: can we freeze this thread please. Or more usefully, reboot it. Philip, you're turning into Koen! Alex, if someone on this list asks what Poky is, 99%

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-10 Thread Philip Balister
On 08/10/2015 02:13 PM, Alexander Kanavin wrote: On 08/08/2015 08:09 PM, Philip Balister wrote: By 'self-sustaining' I mean 'being able to continuously produce quality work'. Looking at layers in meta-openembedded, not all of them are of high quality. Meta-gnome in particular is badly out of

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-10 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On 08/08/2015 08:09 PM, Philip Balister wrote: By 'self-sustaining' I mean 'being able to continuously produce quality work'. Looking at layers in meta-openembedded, not all of them are of high quality. Meta-gnome in particular is badly out of date, because no one wants to maintain it properly.

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-08 Thread Philip Balister
On 08/07/2015 02:26 PM, Alexander Kanavin wrote: On 08/07/2015 12:17 PM, Philip Balister wrote: Thanks Khem. I also do not agree that we lack a self-sustaining community. OpenEmbedded has functioned independently for far longer than the Yocto Project has existed. By 'self-sustaining' I

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-07 Thread Khem Raj
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Alexander Kanavin alexander.kana...@linux.intel.com wrote: My issue here is quality control. Someone still has to review the work of those volunteer developers, and take action when they fail to take action. Yocto at the moment does not have such a

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-07 Thread Khem Raj
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Richard Purdie richard.pur...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: As someone has volunteered to maintain the pre-GPLv3 parted recipe (and I'll volunteer as a secondary maintainer, if that helps) hopefully there would not be a serious maintenance burden on anyone who

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-07 Thread Philip Balister
On 08/07/2015 08:12 AM, Khem Raj wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Alexander Kanavin alexander.kana...@linux.intel.com wrote: My issue here is quality control. Someone still has to review the work of those volunteer developers, and take action when they fail to take action. Yocto at the

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-07 Thread Khem Raj
On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:26 AM, Alexander Kanavin alexander.kana...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 08/07/2015 12:17 PM, Philip Balister wrote: Thanks Khem. I also do not agree that we lack a self-sustaining community. OpenEmbedded has functioned independently for far longer than the Yocto

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-08-07 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On 08/07/2015 12:17 PM, Philip Balister wrote: Thanks Khem. I also do not agree that we lack a self-sustaining community. OpenEmbedded has functioned independently for far longer than the Yocto Project has existed. By 'self-sustaining' I mean 'being able to continuously produce quality

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-07-31 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On 07/31/2015 02:14 AM, Andre McCurdy wrote: The number of high quality recipes which can be maintained in oe-core depends on the number of developers actively using and contributing to oe-core. More active developers means more recipes can be maintained to a high quality. My issue here is

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-07-30 Thread Alexander Kanavin
On 07/11/2015 10:57 AM, Richard Purdie wrote: This does touch on something I have wondered about for a while, which is whether the time has come to move the GPLv2 pieces to their own layer and possibly their own maintainership. Obviously there are pros and cons to doing that. Thoughts? I'm

Re: [OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-07-30 Thread Andre McCurdy
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Alexander Kanavin alexander.kana...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 07/11/2015 10:57 AM, Richard Purdie wrote: This does touch on something I have wondered about for a while, which is whether the time has come to move the GPLv2 pieces to their own layer and possibly

[OE-core] meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]

2015-07-11 Thread Richard Purdie
On Sat, 2015-07-11 at 00:20 -0700, Andre McCurdy wrote: GPLv3 was released in June 2007 and most GNU packages transitioned to it fairly quickly, so by definition, the pre-GPLv3 version of any GNU package is now very old and unsupported. We do have a precedent for keeping pre-GPLv3 versions