Re: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread Alvin Marcelo
Hi Stephen, As an end user and as an implementer (and when fortunate enough to be hired --- as an evaluator) -- I prefer to work with GPL (at least version 2). In some cases, I can consider looking at Mozilla Public License sotware (for evaluation). So when local (i.e. Philippine-based) vendors o

Re: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread Tim Churches
Mark Spohr wrote: > I've read your blog posting and I think that you have correctly identified > the problem. We have capitalism run amok with no controls, legal or > ethical. > > What I don't understand it why you think that software patents aren't part > of the problem. To me, it is morally re

RE: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread Stephen Beller
Thanks, Mark . I certainly do want the opinions and advice from this community! I'm not saying that patents aren't problematic. I, too, have a problem with healthcare patents that prevent people from getting the care they need (or even better care) because the patent-holder puts unreasonable de

Re: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
Stephen Beller wrote: > > ... I would argue that there are > situations in which inventors with patented software are truly committed to > helping humanity with their innovation. They are not driven by greed or ego, > and they do not want their patent to adversely affect society. ... > ...but it

Re: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread Fred Trotter
In Steves defense I see no reason why proprietary companies should not have to pay to use his patent. It makes sense to me that in the world of openess and freedom, everything should be open and free. While if a proprietary software vendor presumes to exert control of a clinician using a software l

Re: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread Mark Spohr
I've read your blog posting and I think that you have correctly identified the problem. We have capitalism run amok with no controls, legal or ethical. What I don't understand it why you think that software patents aren't part of the problem. To me, it is morally repugnant to 'own' an idea in th

RE: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread Stephen Beller
Accepted, Bhaskar . and I thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'd be happy to engage in deeper conversation at a later time. Steve From: openhealth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:48 AM To: openhealth@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Steve -- I don't have the bandwidth right now to engage in a discussion on whether Government granted legal monopolies like patents are societally beneficial from a macro-economic perspective, and whether or not greed is good or is morally corrupt. These are fascinating and deep topics that I

RE: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread Stephen Beller
Our entire economic system can be characterized as "pathological mutation of Capitalism," as I discuss at this link -- http://curinghealthcare.blogspot.com/2007/10/path-to-profound-healthcare.htm l As such, legal, yet morally corrupt practices--in which a few gain financially as others are harm

Re: [openhealth] Re: An inventor of disruptive technology looking for advice about open source

2008-05-08 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
If you have FOSS that is protected by a patent, the license is important. If I were a user, I wouldn't touch the software unless it was released under either GPL v3 or Affero GPL v3. In general, I am turned off by software patents. I say this as someone who was awarded one of the early patent