Re: [openhealth] FOIAVistA SemiVivA 20060615 available
You said: As always, critiques, comments and questions are welcome. Are you serious? If you are, let me request that a document on how to use this, once installed, with a real example, with screenshots where necessary be put up. Without this it is useless. The LiveCD you kindly sent me was not helpful for the above reason. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=342412 The questions asked in this forum also show what I am talking about. You said: I don't know enough about VistA to tell you how to run it. For that, you will need to join the mailing list This is not quite OK. Do you know anyone who will write a document specific to your downloadable version? I am sure if we can get it working, we can send you some documentation for the WorldVistA version ourselves! Nandalal --- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Downloadable from the WorldVistA project page at Source Forge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista), FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060615 is a package of FOIA VistA June 15, 2006 with OR_30_215 and GT.M V5.1-000. To install, download the release to a directory, e.g., /Distrib. Then as root excute: cd /usr/local tar zxvf /Distrib/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060615.tgz This will create the needed subdirectories off /usr/local. Then, to install a development environment, e.g., in ~/myVistA, execute as a normal user: /usr/local/FOIAVistA20060615/install ~/myVistA Once a development environment is installed, you can run it (as a normal user) with: ~/myVistA/run Or to start at an entry point, e.g., P^DI: ~/myVistA/run P^DI As always, critiques, comments and questions are welcome. -- Bhaskar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/W4wwlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [openhealth] Re: VistA Office as 'open' EHR software
CPRS source is in the public domain but needs Delphi to run. The version runs only in Windows. It can be made to run in Linux using Wine, but just barely. A commercial organization has come forward to create something based on Wine that will run CPRS in Linux, as well as it does in Windows. Therefore it will remain dependent on a commercial product even on linux! But if it works, this is acceptable in my opinion, as CPRS itself can be modified by anyone subsequently. Nandalal --- Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: In addition, there can be claims for various developers of the GUI for VistA, which was not in the Public Domain. Nandalal I'm unsure what you mean here. CPRS was built using a commercial product called Delphi. but the source is in the public domain. Granted, if someone set out today to develop an open source product, this would be an unlikely platform choice, but that's not the way VistA started out life. I believe that alternative user interfaces have been developed as well, but they are different products, not VistA. There are a few options for building GUI interfaces to VistA, and there is nothing to stop developers from building new GUI applications for use in conjunction with VistA if they wish. Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judge a man by his questions not his answers. --Voltaire [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/W4wwlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [openhealth] Re: VistA Office as 'open' EHR software
--- Nandalal Gunaratne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CPRS source is in the public domain but needs Delphi to run. The version runs only in Windows. It can be made to run in Linux using Wine, but just barely. A commercial organization has come forward to create something based on Wine that will run CPRS in Linux, as well as it does in Windows. Therefore it will remain dependent on a commercial product even on linux! But if it works, this is acceptable in my opinion, as CPRS itself can be modified by anyone subsequently. Nandalal My guess is that there will eventually be open source GUI front ends to VistA that do not depend upon Windows, Wine or Delphi. I've even tried to scare up interest in developing such a thing, but the idea never generated much interest. Part of what's going on is undoubtedly that many pracvtitioners know CPRS, like it, and want to continue working with CPRS. On top of that, open source development of VistA really is still in its infancy. True, VistA has been around for many years, but interest in using it (outside the U.S. Dept. of Veterans Affairs) has only recently started to take off. There have been non-VA adopters for some time, but nearly as many as there are today. Interestingly, I've been a vocal proponent of updating the VistA infrastructure and of new development, but this thread is making me sound like an unabashed VistA apologist! I guess that's another way of saying that I don't mean to imply your concerns aren't valid, only that it is necessary to look at them in context. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judge a man by his questions not his answers. --Voltaire Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/W4wwlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [openhealth] FOIAVistA SemiVivA 20060615 available
--- Nandalal Gunaratne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You said: As always, critiques, comments and questions are welcome. Are you serious? If you are, let me request that a document on how to use this, once installed, with a real example, with screenshots where necessary be put up. I believe people are working on doing this now. Without this it is useless. The LiveCD you kindly sent me was not helpful for the above reason. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=342412 The questions asked in this forum also show what I am talking about. You said: I don't know enough about VistA to tell you how to run it. For that, you will need to join the mailing list Bhaskar is one of the most active contributors to the open source development of VistA and his expertise is tremendously valuable. But his area of expertise is GT.M, the open source MUMPS implementation to which a number of people are actively working to port VistA. In fact, the software *runs* under GT.M, but there is still work to do. I'm an experienced MUMPS programmer (though these days I'm actually more involved with Java), but have very little knowledge of GT.M specifically. On the other hand, VistA infrastructure (Kernel, Fileman, etc.) is *my* are of experitse. Still others specialize in clinical applications, including CPRS. The point is that it's just not realistic to expect one person to be expert in all areas of VistA. I like to think of is as being somewhat analogous to medicine: an anesthesologist, an internist, a cardiothoracic surgeon and a neurologist may each be a doctor, each sharing a basic body of knowledge and skills, but there is a reason why each of those specialties exist. Is that a shocking analogy? Well maybe so, but VistA isn't a single application designed to provide a (relatively) constrained range of functionality: It is a large application intended to serve as a complete hospital solution, and on top of that, it is designed to run on a wide range of hardware, operating systems, and MUMPS implementations. In the 14 years I've been working with VistA, I've used it on everything from a PDP-11 to a VAX, to a 486 to an Alpha, and under a similar variety of operating systems. That requires a fair amount of support, too. A Pharmacy expert or a Lab expert may not have a good understanding of what it takes to move VistA to a new platform, and that's why Hardhats is needed as a collaborative forum. This is not quite OK. Do you know anyone who will write a document specific to your downloadable version? I am sure if we can get it working, we can send you some documentation for the WorldVistA version ourselves! Okay, so I've digressed a bit. That's precisely the kind of thing that's needed. But until that documentation is available, Hardhats and WorldVistA is where you're likely to find the people with the ability to answer your questions. Nandalal === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judge a man by his questions not his answers. --Voltaire Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/W4wwlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
