Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-26 Thread Will Ross
], openhealth@yahoogroups.com Subject: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution Reply-To: openhealth@yahoogroups.com Hi Will, What you have done is incorrect. As you disagree with the constitution, we will not be able to include your name in the list of founding members

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-26 Thread Will Ross
On Apr 25, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: Will, You are right! The flawed process was an attempt to get the OSHCA formally retgisterd, start a web site and get going. Endless changes and debate are not going to do this. Therefore, with this somewhat awkward, even

[openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Will Ross
molly, with all due respect, what is the point of offering opportunities to vote for or against a position if a nay vote is disallowed or prevents the possibility of membership? please explain to me how the loyal opposition can voice their opinion without harassment, retribution, exclusion

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
Will, For some reason I didn't receive the email you sent below with the attached formplease resend a copy to me for the record. Joseph Molly Cheah wrote: Hi Will, What you have done is incorrect. As you disagree with the constitution, we will not be able to include your name in the

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread David Forslund
If the process requires all of the items to be approved to move forward, I submit it is fatally flawed. If all are required to be approved then there should simply be one vote up or down. If not then the results of the process should be able to go forward based on the various possible outcomes.

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Will, Please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing ;-) They have not done this before! Perfection is worth striving for, but it is almost never reachable, Therefore it was agreed by most of us that it was OK to get it

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Fred Trotter
OSCHA committee, It is a little troublesome that Will's membership is being discarded along with his comments. Essentially the arguments of the committee is lets get it working and then worry about getting it right. This is fine but I, at least, will have to wait to see it working right before

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
Fred, Nothing is being discardedI am taking minutes. There is no disadvantage to waiting to register with OSHCA until after this clunky process for bootstraping incorporation is complete. In fact, given the clunky birthing process and concerns raised, it will be extremely important for

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Will Ross
fred, joseph, and all, please do not vote with your feet and leave this process. this is a good effort and deserves to get built without folks walking out or staying on the sidelines. we all win when we figure out how to move forward. [wr] - - - - - - - - On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:41 AM,

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Fred Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, There was enough time given for dissent/discussion. Molly asked everyone repeatedly to comment on the issues. We can't wait for ever, therefore a time limit was set, and the FINAL draft was set down. Therfore there was really nothing to

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread David Forslund
I don't understand the complaint about Will's concerns. The voting wasn't done when he indicated his comments. So why do you say that everything was done and over with? What is the voting about then? Perhaps I'm missing something important? I thought voting was a democratic process. :-)

RES: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread John
) 2509-0023 --- _ De: openhealth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Nandalal Gunaratne Enviada em: terça-feira, 25 de abril de 2006 13:30 Para: openhealth@yahoogroups.com Assunto: Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca

Re: RES: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Will Ross
: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Will, Please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing ;-) They have not done this before! Perfection is worth striving for, but it is almost never reachable, Therefore

RES: RES: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread John
@yahoogroups.com Assunto: Re: RES: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution john, i'm concerned this message and the assumptions beneath it. i am attempting to join a process that needs to be loosely coupled enough to allow serial participation. stop trying to kick me out of oshca. with best

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Daniel L. Johnson
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 23:37 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Will, why not let the process proceed and see what the results of the votes are? Agreed. I have voiced similar concerns about the current process to the protem and am comfortable going with the flow

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Tim.Churches
Will Ross wrote: nandalal, from the perspective of a simple discussion at a face to face meeting, this is what is happening: we have a motion and a second to approve the 1.0 draft of the constitution. is there any further discussion? Although there was at least a two week

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Will Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, You are right! The flawed process was an attempt to get the OSHCA formally retgisterd, start a web site and get going. Endless changes and debate are not going to do this. Therefore, with this somewhat awkward, even ridiculous process, we

Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-25 Thread Fred Trotter
I think it will take along time before the value of OSCHA approaches the value of the openhealth list. As long as the lurkers are the right people, they can be very valuable. OpenHealth has been key to the formation of relationships that are actually producing code. My relationship with Will

[openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-24 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi Will, What you have done is incorrect. As you disagree with the constitution, we will not be able to include your name in the list of founding members to the ROS simply because the ROS will not register OSHCA. Therefore there will be no OSHCA for you to be a member of. I am posting this