Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Rod Roark
On Saturday 25 March 2006 03:08 am, Thomas Beale wrote: Rod Roark wrote: The point is, open source (as in Free Software) is NOT a business model. It's a method and end result of collaboration among users. I make good money at it only because some of those users are willing to pay me to

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Will Ross
Rod, In general, I think it is unhelpful to imagine that Free Software has a nature entirely separate from commercial activity. Eric Raymond's meta-analysis is a useful historical document, but is not relevant to this discussion. We are discussing the relationship between open source

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Aren't we missing the larger issue? Proper certification of health information systems is going to be expensive, and that is probably unavoidable. Moeover, someone is going to have to bear the burden of that cost. I'm not sure that this question should really be tied to the certification model,

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Fred Trotter
This is an interesting discussion. However we do have some decisions to make. 1. Does the different nature free and open source medical software warrant different consideration than proprietary models for CCHIT certification pricing. (If a large number of people feel this way then we should draft

[openhealth] Re: [Amazon S3

2006-03-27 Thread Wayne Wilson
From: Tim.Churches [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any other ideas for S3? 1) Wait for Google to offer it for free :) Seriously, Google already offers 2GB of free web 'mail' space. Someone has already figured out how to make a file system like interface to that. This is the tip of an iceberg in the

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Rod Roark
On Monday 27 March 2006 09:46 am, Will Ross wrote: Rod, In general, I think it is unhelpful to imagine that Free Software has a nature entirely separate from commercial activity. Eric Raymond's meta-analysis is a useful historical document, but is not relevant to this discussion.

[openhealth] Re: CCHIT biased towards proprietary software?

2006-03-27 Thread Wayne Wilson
Certification is certainly a can of worms. In the past a strong case has been made for certification to ensure public safety. Electrical components in the US are certified by Underwriter's Laboratory (UL), electrical installations are certified by passing a local inspection process, and more

Re: [openhealth] Re: CCHIT biased towards proprietary software?

2006-03-27 Thread Tim.Churches
Wayne Wilson wrote: Finally if software is developed with unit test capabilities, it is quite easy to repeat unit tests upon software modification, so this does not become much of a burden either. Indeed. My approach these days when considering open source software components for serious use

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Tim.Churches
Will Ross wrote: Fred, I oppose the creation of a separate open source certification process. I think it compromises the opportunity for open source solutions to displace commercial solutions, and it distracts open source projects from leveraging the collaborative process to create

Re: [openhealth] Re: CCHIT biased towards proprietary software?

2006-03-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Every software developer writes unit tests, but the unit test typically end up being files on their hard drives at some point. Making unit tests into artifacts is a relatively recent phenomenon, and even more so is the idea of writing test cases before you code (one of the tents of XP). If unit

Re: [openhealth] Re: CCHIT biased towards proprietary software?

2006-03-27 Thread Tim.Churches
Greg Woodhouse wrote: Every software developer writes unit tests, In your dreams! but the unit test typically end up being files on their hard drives at some point. Making unit tests into artifacts is a relatively recent phenomenon, Agreed, but I had recent releases of open source software

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Thomas Beale
Tim.Churches wrote: Will Ross wrote: Fred, I oppose the creation of a separate open source certification process. I think it compromises the opportunity for open source solutions to displace commercial solutions, and it distracts open source projects from leveraging the

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Thomas Beale
Greg Woodhouse wrote: It seems to me that there are two threads of discussion here that are not at all merging. One issue is whether testing can and should be made cheaper. I didn't think we were talking about testing; we were talking about certification. Certification is about getting a tick

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-27 Thread Fred Trotter
It sounds like there is little consensus for having any special status for open source software. Certainly not enough to warrant a group letter. Are there any more thoughts on how much a certification should cost? -FT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups

[openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-27 Thread Molly Cheah
Dear all, I am happy to annouce that the transfer of the domain name oshca.org from Brian had been completed. Brian is in the process of creating and signing a document disclaiming rights to the OSHCA trademark. Thank you Brian for these initiatives. I understand that Brian will also make a