Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Dave Pooser
On 11/4/15, 11:54 PM, "Nikola M" wrote: >USB is not that good for high profile use anyway. >USB does not do checking of data during transwer (came to the light when >using USB wireless adapters). >ZFS helps there with checksums, but for regular things I would stick to >SAS

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote: > USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a backwards > compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time". Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking that eSATA is preferred over USB-3, assuming SAS

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Ian Collins
Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote: USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a backwards compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time". Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking that eSATA is preferred over

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Nikola M
On 11/ 5/15 07:07 PM, Rich Teer wrote: Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking that eSATA is preferred over USB-3, assuming SAS isn't an option? The low-end, consumer-spec drive enclosure I'm using has an eSATA port and a USB-3 port. The eSATA port requires the use

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Nikola M
On 11/ 5/15 05:23 PM, Dave Pooser wrote: On 11/4/15, 11:54 PM, "Nikola M" wrote: USB is not that good for high profile use anyway. USB does not do checking of data during transwer (came to the light when using USB wireless adapters). ZFS helps there with checksums, but for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Jim Klimov
6 ноября 2015 г. 0:59:52 CET, Ian Collins пишет: >Rich Teer wrote: >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote: >> >>> USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a >backwards >>> compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time". >> Just so that I'm

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-04 Thread Nikola M
On 11/ 3/15 08:52 PM, Rich Teer wrote: I'm currently using the external drive bay with a USB 2 connection, plus an eSATA drive (3-way mirror). My plan is to drop the eSATA drive (it's a 2 TB drive vs the 4 TB drives in the other drive bay), and stick to just the USB port and (for the time

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-03 Thread Philip Robar
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Rich Teer wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote: > > > You might be better off with a FreeNAS setup instead of Linux+ZFS, as > long > > as you don't mind configuring it via a browser interface ... We have 3 of > > the beasties now

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-03 Thread Rich Teer
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015, Guenther Alka wrote: > Your options are mainly with Solarish systems > > - Oracle Solaris with USB 3 support > but the following options are far better, faster or more robust to connect > disks [...] All good ideas, and I agree, probably better in a commercial environment.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-03 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
> From the feedback I've received here, it seems that for better performance > (considering my budget) I will have to go the USB 3 route, which also means > that I may have to abandon a Solaris-based OS. :-( In the immediate term, > that probably means going the Linux + ZFS on LInux route. I'll

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-03 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote: > You might be better off with a FreeNAS setup instead of Linux+ZFS, as long > as you don't mind configuring it via a browser interface ... We have 3 of > the beasties now running in production environments and they even have ZFS > boot (and they don't

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-03 Thread Jonathan Adams
On 3 Nov 2015 19:53, "Rich Teer" wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Nov 2015, Guenther Alka wrote: > > > Your options are mainly with Solarish systems > > > > - Oracle Solaris with USB 3 support > > but the following options are far better, faster or more robust to connect > > disks > > [...]

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-02 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015, Guenther Alka wrote: Your options are mainly with Solarish systems - Oracle Solaris with USB 3 support but the following options are far better, faster or more robust to connect disks What about keyboard and mouse? Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-02 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?, Bob Friesenhahn...: - Oracle Solaris with USB 3 support but the following options are far better, faster or more robust to connect disks What about keyboard and mouse? +1 Tim -- Tim Mooney

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-01 Thread Guenther Alka
Your options are mainly with Solarish systems - Oracle Solaris with USB 3 support but the following options are far better, faster or more robust to connect disks - eSata for a single disk - external SAS enclosures that supports up to 4 SAS/Sata disks per miniSAS Cable - SAS expander

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-10-31 Thread Private openbabel
On 28/10/2015 21:45, Rich Teer wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: USB-3 is not supported yet. I have not heard of anyone working on it. Ah, that is what I feared, but thanks for confirming it. Consider ZFS on Linux or FreeBSD if you need USB-3 and ZFS within the next year.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-10-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
> > Who within the Illumos or OI community is capable of doing the necessary > development to add full USB3 support? > > Does anyone know if there's been discussion of funding someone to > write the necessary driver(s)? > Hello, I have asked these same questions in the past. The problem is

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-10-28 Thread Rich Teer
Hi all, Hopefully a very quick question here: is USB3 supported yet, and if so, what 2+ port cards are recommended? I'm specifically talking about using ZFS on external hard drives, and am thinking of using SmartOS if that helps. The USB card would be going into a PCIe slot in my Ultra 20 M2.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-10-28 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > USB-3 is not supported yet. I have not heard of anyone working on it. Ah, that is what I feared, but thanks for confirming it. > Consider ZFS on Linux or FreeBSD if you need USB-3 and ZFS within the next > year. Yep; I've already started pondering

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-10-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Rich Teer wrote: Hi all, Hopefully a very quick question here: is USB3 supported yet, and if so, what 2+ port cards are recommended? I'm specifically talking about using ZFS on external hard drives, and am thinking of using SmartOS if that helps. The USB card would be

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-10-28 Thread jason matthews
On 10/28/15 1:58 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Also consider eSATA since that can be supported by OpenIndiana and is commonly available on external drives. The electrical and protocol specification for esata is the same as sata. E-SATA cables I think need to be shielded. The only difference

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-10-28 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?, Bob Friesenhahn...: USB-3 is not supported yet. I have not heard of anyone working on it. The day is coming where USB3 or 3.1 is going to be the standard for motherboards, and it's going to be difficult to find a MoBo with USB2. Who