Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
Ok, if please don't help. no help then. cheers On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:59 PM, James O'Gorman ja...@netinertia.co.uk wrote: On 9 Oct 2010, at 17:07, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: I like as well other variations such as Indiana CORE. That will work if we intend this distro to be the mother-ship

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
OpenIndiana is part of the Illumos Foundation, and provides a true open source community alternative to Solaris 11 and Solaris 11 Express, with an open development model and full community participation. James, shutting up the mouth of others does not fit in that description. Just wanted to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Christopher Chan
Gabriel, Grow up. It is pretty clear that few are interested in seeing a name change and I personally like how OpenIndiana connects things back to the roots of Illumos. If you do not like it, you are free to start your own distribution and call it whatever you like. Now if you wanted to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
Thanks Daniel, probably emails are not so pleasant for reading what is not of interest. Sorry if I am picky, I should had ignored the whole thing for the best. BR On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Kjar dk...@elmira.edu wrote: Perhaps the problem is the mail-list way this is being

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Christopher Chan
' with openindiana? This list is about openindiana. Notice the openindiana-discuss name. When it has become clear that no one is seriously interested in changing the name and then someone asks you to drop it, you come back and attack the person. It is obvious then that you are not 'okay' with openindiana

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
My twisted statement relies on appealing the fact there is no mutual respect, for that you are making great contribution, grow up?. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Daniel Kjar wrote: Perhaps the problem is the mail-list way this is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Christopher Chan
Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: My twisted statement relies on appealing the fact there is no mutual respect, for that you are making great contribution, grow up?. Yes. In what way was James' request not polite and lacking respect? If you cannot handle a simple request and have to throw a tantrum,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
http://www.bikeshed.com/ -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-10 Thread Lou Picciano
Ditto. - Original Message - From: Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:27:45 AM Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II) http

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-09 Thread Daniel Kjar
Sorry, I thought I was replying to this 'thread'. You are right about the googling though. Nobody else would ever use the name openindiana for anything, ever. On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Rob McMahon robmcmaho...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/ 9/10 12:40 AM, Daniel Kjar wrote: I like Polaris,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-09 Thread Søren Krarup Olesen
ROB: Our star really doesn't sound like much of a brand name to me (sorry), also it has the same google issues. I believe it's ourstar (one word, using os as operating system) with the stress on the first syllable--a bit the same rhythm as avatar :-) That's going to be an issue. We could

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-09 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
Hello, Jesus, nice hint, Polaris sounds very nice as a brand, but I am afraid the patent office wont let us make a trademark for an OS with that name, as there is only 1 letter difference... that will be acceptable if we choose different classes of goods to be named with it, we could name

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-09 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
By the way, the gray should be darker because of readability, sorry, I don't have the tools I need with me right now. BR On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Jesus, nice hint, Polaris sounds very nice as a brand, but I am afraid the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-09 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
Sorry, another comment, about our user base, It should be very easy to make the trademark transition, this has happen successfully on products that has been in the market for more than 10 years. In our case we just need to bond the domain names properly, ect... and keep the openindiana around for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-09 Thread taemun
LuminOS (or some variation thereof, LumiOS) seems to me to be an obvious contender. Shortens to Lumi. Follows on from (perhaps too closely) Illumos. On 10 October 2010 03:15, Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delac...@gmail.comwrote: ERRATA: indiana, not indina :-P I dont disturb again... :-D On

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-08 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
I'm sure it's been offered already, but has anyone considered Polaris? -J On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Søren Krarup Olesen s...@es.aau.dk wrote: Dear all, Okay, I gave the name a little thought and came up with http://raptus.dk/tmp/logo.svg Please ignore the logo. I was just fooling

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-08 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/10/10 21:06, Jason J. W. Williams wrote: I'm sure it's been offered already, but has anyone considered Polaris? That was the codename port of OpenSolaris to PowerPC :).

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-08 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Since this is our new north star for open Solaris, it seemed appropriate. :) -J On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/10/10 21:06, Jason J. W. Williams wrote: I'm sure it's been offered already, but has anyone

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana (part II)

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel Kjar
I like Polaris, our star... not so much. Very useful for celestial navigation so there is some 'meaning'. Polaris really does sound great as a name for the OS. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brett Dikeman brett.dike...@gmail.comwrote: Initially it was said that the community didn't get a

[OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Søren Krarup Olesen
ALL: Has there been any discussion about the name OpenIndiana recently. I can surely understand the reason for picking this name, but for a Dane (like me) it comes out a bit clumsy. I've tried to imagine a couple of funny scenarios, like OpenDenmark (Denmark is at least three times smaller than

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Christopher Chan
Søren Krarup Olesen wrote: ALL: Has there been any discussion about the name OpenIndiana recently. I can surely understand the reason for picking this name, but for a Dane (like me) it comes out a bit clumsy. I've tried to imagine a couple of funny scenarios, like OpenDenmark (Denmark is at

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
Indiana seems so far away that to me becomes a very exotic name; FOREIGNERS, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US ALONE WITH THE DANES! thats a political statement :-D On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Søren Krarup Olesen wrote: ALL: Has there been

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Søren Krarup Olesen s...@es.aau.dk wrote: Yes, I know all that, but I believe that legacy can be carried on in an elegant way without being influenced by e.g. the Indiana project. Besides, the term Open is more or less superflous these days; people care about

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Johnston
Is it only me who it makes me think of classic motorcycles? Paul -Original Message- From: Alasdair Lumsden [mailto:alasdai...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 October 2010 13:20 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:08

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
I think it is the right time for that kind of questions, as otherwise it will be too late. Openindiana is not a totally sexy brand name, ok to go, but... Indiana was working well as a codename for opensolaris, so it would work well for example to refer to all the 1.0 releases, or to identify the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Christopher Chan
Alasdair Lumsden wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Søren Krarup Olesen s...@es.aau.dk wrote: Yes, I know all that, but I believe that legacy can be carried on in an elegant way without being influenced by e.g. the Indiana project. Besides, the term Open is more or less superflous these

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel!
OpenIndiana remainds me the opensource version of Indiana Jones. Maybe we can use him as a pet :P On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delac...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is the right time for that kind of questions, as otherwise it will be too late. Openindiana is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Christopher Chan
Gabriel! wrote: OpenIndiana remainds me the opensource version of Indiana Jones. Maybe we can use him as a pet :P With a whip as a leash. :-D On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delac...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is the right time for that kind of questions, as

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
oh indi! ;-D On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Gabriel! gbense...@gmail.com wrote: OpenIndiana remainds me the opensource version of Indiana Jones. Maybe we can use him as a pet :P On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delac...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is the right

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread McBofh
On 6/10/10 10:40 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: Alasdair Lumsden wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Søren Krarup Olesen s...@es.aau.dk wrote: Yes, I know all that, but I believe that legacy can be carried on in an elegant way without being influenced by e.g. the Indiana project. Besides,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
Thats the point, Convincing, not by knowledge, but with the use of a sales speech. I am sure they will make more money than sun, but what I mean is that we wont have as many machines around running solaris at that price... data centers in big companies, but not so much in the middle range.. Yes

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
... by the way they broke my heart already, they will need a hell of a sales man to fix that ;-P On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delac...@gmail.com wrote: Thats the point, Convincing, not by knowledge, but with the use of a sales speech. I am sure they will make

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delac...@gmail.com wrote: So, your question is a good one... is that name enough to compete with them? I would have no issue recommending OpenIndiana in a board room to a bunch of pointy-haired-bosses* - it sounds way more corporate

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Brandon Mercer
Along with the branding thing... The name isn't a large sticking point for me at all, and I REALLY like the logos, website and presence that the PHB would perceive when they went to investigate the project. Sure it's not complete or matured but the project is new. I look forward to what that will

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel!
Totally Agree with Brandon, but maybe we could point someone with Marketing credentials to take this kind of decisions (not me of course!). On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Brandon Mercer yourcomputer...@gmail.comwrote: Along with the branding thing... The name isn't a large sticking point

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
As I said earlier, I have no issue with openindiana, and you gave some nice elegance to the whole thing... But questioning is never a bad attitude, specially dealing with taste and meaning. I find no problem in questioning something that I like, if it could bring some new perspectives out. I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Hillel Lubman
Hat with the whip then?-) But really - there was no open discussion about the name prior to OpenIndiana going public. May be now is a good time to make some contest for the distro name. Regards, Hillel. On 10/6/10, Kyle McDonald kmcdon...@egenera.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Daniel Kjar
Don't feel bad, in the US indiana sounds nice but represents a (crazy) conservative state that tends to produce corn, cows, and very very bad politicians. Was just in Copenhagen, very nice On 10/ 6/10 06:10 AM, Søren Krarup Olesen wrote: ALL: Has there been any discussion about the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Brett Dikeman
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Hillel Lubman shtetl...@gmail.com wrote: But really - there was no open discussion about the name prior to OpenIndiana going public. May be now is a good time to make some contest for the distro name. IMHO (and coming into this as someone with an outsider

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Stefan Müller-Wilken
. Von: Brett Dikeman [brett.dike...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010 18:22 An: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Hillel Lubman shtetl...@gmail.com wrote: But really - there was no open

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: In fact and AFAIK, there _was_ no community other than the persons involved when the name was chosen as this was before official project launch. I'm with you with the nice horse-out-of-the-barn picture. The name is there and I'm not sure if changing it would

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Stefan Müller-Wilken
And would be a lot harder to find in google searches or register domain names for. OpenIndiana is unique, Indiana is very very overloaded. Good point! Acando GmbH Geschäftsführer: Michael Mörchen Amtsgericht Hamburg, HRB 76048 Ust.Ident-Nr.:DE208833022 Haftungsausschluss: Diese Nachricht ist

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Bob Hoekstra
I want to add my complete support to Brett's comments below. Don't change the name now, or any exposure the product has had to date will be wasted. Besides, there are far more interesting things to discuss than the name. I think this is less important right now than sorting out any remaining

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Johnston
On 10/ 6/10 06:10 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: In fact and AFAIK, there _was_ no community other than the persons involved when the name was chosen as this was before official project launch. I'm with you with the nice horse-out-of-the-barn picture. The name is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Stefan Müller-Wilken
Hmmm... wasn't the classic motorbike called Indian (chief)??? Am 06.10.2010 um 20:49 schrieb Paul Johnston paul.a.johns...@manchester.ac.uk : On 10/ 6/10 06:10 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: In fact and AFAIK, there _was_ no community other than the persons

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Gary Driggs
On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Gabriel! wrote: OpenIndiana remainds me the opensource version of Indiana Jones. Funny you should say that as the host name for my first OI install is drjones. -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana

2010-10-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2010 10:10:24 AM Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: OpenIndiana On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.com wrote: I would have no issue recommending OpenIndiana in a board room to a bunch of pointy