Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-10 Thread The Outsider
True! That's why i pay for hardsoftware support on solaris 11.2. (Prices are reasonable when you have Sun hardware) But 11.2 != openindiana. On 10 oktober 2014 02:08:00 Dave Pooser dave...@pooserville.com wrote: On 10/9/14 5:13 PM, The Outsider openindi...@out-side.nl wrote: Hmm i am

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-10 Thread ken mays via openindiana-discuss
You missed Tribblix and DilOS and a few others. Same as in cars, why are there so many of them that do similar things ??? Choices. Tribblix, XStreamOS-Desktop, and OI are the current leading 'desktop-oriented' distros. Those distros differ in package management and default desktops (amongest

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-10 Thread openbabel
On 10/10/2014 14:22, ken mays via openindiana-discuss wrote: I understand that there is a new SSL Beta version available and some patches for the latest Bash version.Perhaps someone could test these and push them downstream. Robert On 10/10/2014 14:22, ken mays via openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread openindi...@out-side.nl
From my limited tunnelview: Nexenta: closed source, no real root, no zones. IF you want storage with support this is the best option. OmniOS: nice piece of work, but when your fingers are used to the commands of, for example, creating zones it is a disaster SmartOS: same like OmniOS. OI:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread Bayard Bell
On 9 October 2014 20:41, openindi...@out-side.nl openindi...@out-side.nl wrote: From my limited tunnelview: Nexenta: closed source, no real root, no zones. IF you want storage with support this is the best option. Please define closed source while accounting for this fundamental fact:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
Bayard Bell писал 10.10.2014 01:10: On 9 October 2014 20:41, openindi...@out-side.nl openindi...@out-side.nl wrote: From my limited tunnelview: Nexenta: closed source, no real root, no zones. IF you want storage with support this is the best option. Please define closed source while

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread The Outsider
Hmm i am sorry. I seem to have missed that. Last time i installed and tested it i needed to get a registrationkey and wasn't allowed to use nexenta for business without paying a quite high amount of euros. But that was 3 years ago. On 9 oktober 2014 23:18:03 Bayard Bell

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread Dave Pooser
On 10/9/14 5:13 PM, The Outsider openindi...@out-side.nl wrote: Hmm i am sorry. I seem to have missed that. Last time i installed and tested it i needed to get a registrationkey and wasn't allowed to use nexenta for business without paying a quite high amount of euros. But that was 3 years ago.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-26 Thread David Brodbeck
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:16 AM, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm probably trolling here, and this is definitely off-topic, but gee -- we have a communist president, who's filled his White House staff with communists... They've been subtly teaching socialism

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-24 Thread låzaro
I'm glad you for that, but Mr. Michael Stapleton already send me a disc and a DVD with the repos. A public thanks for him ;) Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI Mail number: 1 Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 In reply to: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk I can mail you a disc if you need one

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-19 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
for not internet access peoples. OI is daying, we only can push it. Don't leve the ship get sanked. ORACLE will surprise us very soon... Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI Mail number: 5 Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 In reply to: Marcel Telka On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:34:56AM

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread låzaro
very soon... Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI Mail number: 5 Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 In reply to: Marcel Telka On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:34:56AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Very well said. Agreed 100%. I wish I could contribute to these tasks, but I am a Windows

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
get sanked. ORACLE will surprise us very soon... Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI Mail number: 5 Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 In reply to: Marcel Telka On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:34:56AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Very well said. Agreed 100%. I wish I could

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Sorry. Lazaro, not Lizaro... Forgive me, please. It's morning, and I haven't had breakfast yet! fp ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Oh! I thought all those export restrictions were lifted a few years back. But, in looking on the net, I think I'm wrong. You can't export Fedora! Apparently, we can't export any products containing strong (128-bit or greater) encryption. That would exclude OpenIndiana, too. Sorry, Lazaro.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
I'm probably trolling here, and this is definitely off-topic, but gee -- we have a communist president, who's filled his White House staff with communists... They've been subtly teaching socialism (which is just a stepping stone to communism) in our schools for more than fifty years... What's

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Oh, and those are my thoughts -- not necessarily those of the leaders of our monastery. I'm just a little guy here. On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:16 PM, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm probably trolling here, and this is definitely off-topic, but gee -- we have a communist president,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Sorry, I call TROLL. Socialism is the right's new bogeyman, they always have had one - the Red Scare, McCarthy-ism, inter-racial marriage, heck, even woman's suffrage! Taxation without representation is challenging the status quo! This is not the venue for discussions like this. Let's *please*

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Aurélien Larcher
the ISO install and a repo if it is posible. Perfect would be on DVD full solution. That would make of OI a option for not internet access peoples. OI is daying, we only can push it. Don't leve the ship get sanked. ORACLE will surprise us very soon... Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I wonder if CheapBytes is still around - I remember back around 1999-2001 a website called CheapBytes.com offered various free and open source Linux distributions for a minimal cost for a CD and shipping. Maybe $5-10 for a multiple CD set of discs for a Linux distribution at that time. If they're

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Well, I don't agree with your saying socialism is the right's new bogeyman, but you are right in that this is not the proper venue for this. Sorry. I got a little frustrated. I tried to help somebody out, but can't do it... Still, I would like to know how Open Indiana blocks these countries

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Jason Matthews
I wonder if CheapBytes is still around Cheaper bandwidth probably delivered cheap bytes cheaper than CheapBytes. j. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Colin Ellis
. ORACLE will surprise us very soon... Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI Mail number: 5 Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 In reply to: Marcel Telka On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:34:56AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Very well said. Agreed 100%. I wish I could contribute

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Still, I would like to know how Open Indiana blocks these countries from downloading it. Does anybody know? Don't know for sure, but I think some sites do that by having a lookup table for ranges of IP addresses associated with various countries - the server obviously knows the client's

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread alka
Am 10.12.2012 um 16:57 schrieb Brian Hechinger: OmniOS. -brian hi all although OI keeps my major platform, I have cancelled NexentaCore and added OmniOS as a platform for the napp-it Web-UI. I have fixed the perl problem and finished a first developer preview of the napp-it Web-GUI 0.9

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Dmitry Kozhinov
Please don't get me wrong, I am using OI in production environment, and very interested in its further successful development. But isn't the last conversation about OI future looked like this (sorry for exaggeration): Q: Who is leading OI development? A: We don't need a leader. Q: Who is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:14:51AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Please don't get me wrong, I am using OI in production environment, and very interested in its further successful development. But isn't the last conversation about OI future looked like this (sorry for exaggeration): Q: Who

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Dmitry Kozhinov
Very well said. Agreed 100%. I wish I could contribute to these tasks, but I am a Windows developer, and humble OI user. Obviously, we all need to sit down and start to lead, sponsor, develop, and make the site working. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:34:56AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Very well said. Agreed 100%. I wish I could contribute to these tasks, but I am a Windows developer, and humble OI user. You can: File bug reports, proof read man pages, test things, write wiki pages, blogs, articles, ... You

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread peter jones
Agreed the PR side is quiet but the community is engaged.Perhaps you might be able to evangelise across all social media and ISV's ? As for graphics and desktops I am hoping there is movement on this too.I have just posted some graphics ideas at

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Roel_D
for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI Agreed the PR side is quiet but the community is engaged.Perhaps you might be able to evangelise across all social media and ISV's ? As for graphics and desktops I am hoping there is movement on this too.I have just posted some graphics ideas

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/12/12 12:10, Roel_D wrote: Do we know how many downloads / bandwidth the OpenIndiana hostingplatform needs per month? I consider to participate in the hosting of a Europian mirror. I serve OI via BitTorrent (unfortunately this service

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012, alka wrote: i would be happy, if OI can be a success story but - who leads the development? - which major enterprise/ organisation stays behind? the current answer is: none You are talking about a figure-head type person like Mark Shuttleworth? There is no major

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread steve
I want an open source, community based ZFS storage backend. Is OI the correct choice?? Seems to work OK. I don't want a gui Is there an alternative? No, ZFS on FreeBSD/Linux doesn't cut it. -steve i would be happy, if OI can be a success story but - who leads the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Brian Hechinger
OmniOS. -brian On 12/10/2012 10:51 AM, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote: I want an open source, community based ZFS storage backend. Is OI the correct choice?? Seems to work OK. I don't want a gui Is there an alternative? No, ZFS on FreeBSD/Linux doesn't cut it. -steve i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Hello all! peter jones writes: Agreed the PR side is quiet but the community is engaged.Perhaps you might be able to evangelise across all social media and ISV's ? Next February, there is the Spring Technical Conference (Frühjahrs- fachgespräch) of the German Unix Users Group (GUUG) in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, alka wrote: hi all Currently i use and recommend OI as the main ZFS/Illumos based platform- but its more than obvious that the future development is stalled. What causes you to believe that future development is stalled? I am a couple of minor updates behind (on u5

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-07 Thread Aurélien Larcher
Hi, your email just arrives when I am having some thoughts about the future of OI but my conclusions are quite different. I have to admit that I am in no way an accomplished sys admin or system developer but a researcher with extensive practice of night of programming accompanied with beer and