Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Nikola M
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Just for curiosity, how does Oracle check what kind of use you make of an operating system? In order to evaluate third party communications or private information this information should be already public (what means, the Who said

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Emanuele Pucciarelli
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:27, Nikola M minik...@gmail.com wrote: Only way you can be sure is when you use OS that is Open Source. Everything closed makes very much reasonable to be paranoid. This is not true. The paranoid have to agree with Ken Thompson:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Kyle McDonald
On 11/17/2010 2:50 AM, Nikola M wrote: Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Ummm S11 can upgrade from Opensolaris... maybe OpenIndiana could upgrade As it could be read, it seems unsecured to install SolarisExpress at all, since it kills ALL other boot environments for starting from GRUB. It

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Johnston
-Original Message- From: Emanuele Pucciarelli [mailto:e...@acm.org] As an aside, I wouldn't bet my own business on Oracle's marketing strategy now (neither would Oracle's marketing strategy ever try to reach me), but I am very glad that Alan and other Oracle people hang around Illumos

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Nikola M
Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:27, Nikola M minik...@gmail.com wrote: Only way you can be sure is when you use OS that is Open Source. Everything closed makes very much reasonable to be paranoid. This is not true. The paranoid have to agree with Ken Thompson:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Nikola M
Kyle McDonald wrote: It cleans all Be's and have only itself in GRUB and one another previous BE. If you do a fresh install this is definitely true. All releases of OpenSolaris did the same thing. I did not know that. I only installed OpenSolaris once, with 2009.06 CD. Everything else

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cryptic device naming?

2010-11-17 Thread James C. McPherson
On 16/11/10 08:49 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: - Original Message - The other variable here is the controller settings. The LSI card can use persistent mappings forthe disks, so it's OS presented device is constant, regardless of what slot it is physically in. This drove me nuts

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Slim XVM Installation

2010-11-17 Thread Mister Olli
Hi all, I'm currently trying to setup an XVM server using oi_147. When looking at the packages that will be installed when adding XVM functionality, I couldn't believe my eyes ;-) === u...@system:~$ pfexec pkg install -nv

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Slim XVM Installation

2010-11-17 Thread Guido Berhoerster
* Mister Olli mister.o...@googlemail.com [2010-11-17 15:39]: Hi all, I'm currently trying to setup an XVM server using oi_147. xVM Dom0 has been EOF'd, I don't think it works on b147. -- Guido Berhoerster ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Slim XVM Installation

2010-11-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Mister Olli wrote: Hi all, I'm currently trying to setup an XVM server using oi_147. When looking at the packages that will be installed when adding XVM functionality, I couldn't believe my eyes ;-) Adding ~90 packages, including Xorg for virtualization is :-0 The system should be

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Nikola M wrote: Only way you can be sure is when you use OS that is Open Source. And when you wrote every line of code yourself in every tool used to build it, and created the CPU yourself. http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html (summarized on

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Fwd: [Python-Dev] Help deploying a new buildbot running OpenIndiana/x86

2010-11-17 Thread Jesus Cea
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Nemo
On 17 November 2010 09:24, Nikola M minik...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Yes. True. We all wait for a moment once in the future, when all-free code of ON will be compiled with gcc or clang.. just to be sure ;) Or better, when SunStudio is open-source. #6-)

[OpenIndiana-discuss] So ... ZFS ... Open source?

2010-11-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I figure you guys will know better than anyone else. Now that sol11express is out. Have they released the updated ZFS source? Are they going to continue developing ZFS closed source, and give a middle finger to all the other projects (OI, FreeBSD, etc) which use ZFS?

[OpenIndiana-discuss] SunStudio

2010-11-17 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
Or better, when SunStudio is open-source. #6-) Well, I don't know whether SunStudio will become open-source (probably it won't), but these days I am trying to compile bombono-dvd-0.8.1 on b134. I have Sun C++ 5.11 SunOS_i386 2010/08/13 and g++ v.4.5.1. The problem is that somehow the Sun C++

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SunStudio

2010-11-17 Thread Emanuele Pucciarelli
Hi, The following code snipped from /usr/include/sigc++-2.0/sigc++/signal.h shows how the two compilers handle things: [...] Sun Studio may very well have bugs, but I have a hunch that this one isn't really a bug: it just depends on what STL implementation you are using. If I am not mistaken,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SunStudio

2010-11-17 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/3893 for another example of a workaround with a somewhat clearer explanation. I had similar problems when I ported rtorrent. The poster of the message in the URL above says that Apparently Sun CC with its (ancient) STL is not officially

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI 147 doesn't get screen size right

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Schuster
KDE team, I'm adding you to this discussion because KDE seems to make some difference here: what's missing in this message: with OI and KDE, it looks like screen size is 3200x1200 on a 1920x1200 physical screen, which looks mighty strange. I have not seen this on any other build of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Frank Middleton
On 11/16/10 20:08, Tom Kranz wrote: SX11 has a newer version of ZFS. When you install OpenIndiana over the top, it refuses to recognize the disk layout, and wants to either repartition it or blow it all away. If you start with snv134b as the base, you can obviously update to Solaris Express,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Rthoreau
Frank Middleton f.middle...@apogeect.com writes: On 11/16/10 20:08, Tom Kranz wrote: If you start with snv134b as the base, you can obviously update to Solaris Express, being careful not to change the version of any pools. Then one could roll back to snv134b and install OI when it becomes

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Amnesiac LDAP Configuration

2010-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Sullivan
I've gotten a config working where I have Kerberos auth to AD and passwd lookups via LDAP to AD. I enable it, and it works fine, but on a reboot, it stops working. Please let me know if you have any thoughts as to why this happens. (This behavior is common to both oi147 and Solaris 11 Express.)

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread BM
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Daniel Kjar dk...@elmira.edu wrote:  As a professor that only produces academic non-commercial services, I find this completely unacceptable.  Microsoft sells licenses that academics can afford and they still make money by getting fortune 500s to buy their

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SunStudio

2010-11-17 Thread Chris Ridd
On 17 Nov 2010, at 17:58, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: Or better, when SunStudio is open-source. #6-) Well, I don't know whether SunStudio will become open-source (probably it won't), but these days I am trying to compile bombono-dvd-0.8.1 on b134. I have Sun C++ 5.11 SunOS_i386

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [kde-discuss] OI 147 doesn't get screen size right

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Schuster
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 22:42, Pavel Heimlich, a.k.a. hajma tropikha...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/17 Michael Schuster michaelspriv...@gmail.com: KDE team, I'm adding you to this discussion because KDE seems to make some difference here: what's missing in this message: with OI and KDE, it