Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Sebastian Gabler
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:03:13 +0400 From: Jim Klimovjimkli...@cos.ru To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Message-ID:50901661.9050...@cos.ru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-31 13:58, Sebastian Gabler wrote: 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable 62 MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for improvement. Does your gigabit ethernet use Jumbo Frames (like 9000 or

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SS cc multithread compilation switch (e.g., Parrot)

2012-10-31 Thread James Carlson
On 10/30/12 13:03, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: I see sometimes people linking with -lpthread (do NOT use -pthread), without setting -mt for the Sun Studio compilers, see, e.g., the Parrot (OI 151a7) config: /usr/lib/parrot/3.6.0/tools/lib/Parrot/Config/Generated.pm This is wrong and should

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bad mutex crash?

2012-10-31 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
Rich fixed the account for me (thanks Rich!) -Original Message- From: Jason Matthews [mailto:ja...@broken.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:01 AM To: 'Discussion list for OpenIndiana' Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bad mutex crash? I will take a shot in the dark here. I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable 62 MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for improvement. Does your gigabit ethernet use Jumbo Frames (like 9000 or up to 16KB, depending on your

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread låzaro
Hi all, as many people don't wanna see, gnome future is like a submarine without roof. So, my question. What about make the new gnome's fork as default desktop enviroment, just like is making linux mint. OI always have the step in the next time. That project look like very good with a lot of good

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Jonathan Adams
from what I remember of the conversations of the time, we cannot move to Gnome 3 because of certain Linux dependencies ... Gnome 2 is no longer changing, and no longer being patched ... We don't have time or resources to support a Gnome 2 desktop system development fork (at least I don't and I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SS cc multithread compilation switch (e.g., Parrot)

2012-10-31 Thread James Carlson
On 10/31/2012 9:49 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: Thanks a lot for this info, it's a pity that this isn't documented well, I also read the Multithread Guide http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-5137/compile-74765/index.html and it's all not entirely complete nor completely consistent...

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM, låzaro netad...@lex-sa.cu wrote: Hi all, as many people don't wanna see, gnome future is like a submarine without roof. So, my question. What about make the new gnome's fork as default desktop enviroment, just like is making linux mint. OI always have the step

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread magnus
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:27:59 -0400, låzaro netad...@lex-sa.cu wrote: Hi all, as many people don't wanna see, gnome future is like a submarine without roof. So, my question. What about make the new gnome's fork as default desktop enviroment, just like is making linux mint. OI always have the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Nathan Kunkee
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:02 + From: t12nsloo...@gmail.com To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future from what I remember of the conversations of the time, we cannot move to Gnome 3 because of certain Linux dependencies ...

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Jonathan Adams
Mate is a fork of Gnome 2 that already has a community behind it. Mint features Mate as a key desktop choice. http://mate-desktop.org/ except that Mate looks nothing like Gnome 2 ... so if the idea is to keep the look and feel of the current environment then Mate is not the way to go. We'd

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread openbabel
I am of a commercial view. I am interested in the most popular desktop and most developed environment which is accepted by the current or potential user base.It would not be the correct choice going with a project which either peters out or is not accepted by commercial users as this would

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread magnus
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:25:13 +, openbabel openba...@gmail.com wrote: As an Enterprise system the commercial view should prevail? This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise desktop operating system. ___

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Ben Taylor
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, openbabel openba...@gmail.com wrote: I am of a commercial view. I am interested in the most popular desktop and most developed environment which is accepted by the current or potential user base.It would not be the correct choice going with a project which

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Julius Roberts
On 1 November 2012 02:33, mag...@yonderway.com wrote: This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise desktop operating system. +1. There are alot of very useful desktop operating systems already, so i see no point in OI trying to compete with them. In business speak OI

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Maxim Kondratovich
So why OI has DE at all? Leading to your logic community has to cut off DE from distribution at all... And what we will have? Another one illumos based server distribution?! I see OI as OS for general purposes, so stopping development in DE will decrease value of OI. Yes, community is to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Magnus Hedemark
I never suggested stopping DE development. I merely suggested that thinking of OI as an enterprise desktop OS is trying to sell an idea that enterprises aren't going to buy. I'm actually going to switch from Mac to OI laptop after the holidays (getting crazier with age). Sent from my

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Roel_D
A GUI is only needed when you want to use the gui I see more benefit in better webmin-support for zfs, mysql and other serversoftware. Kind regards, The out-side Op 31 okt. 2012 om 23:30 heeft Julius Roberts hooliowobb...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: On 1 November 2012 02:33,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Julius Roberts
On 1 November 2012 09:48, Maxim Kondratovich maxim@gmail.com wrote: So why OI has DE at all? Leading to your logic community has to cut off DE from distribution at all... And what we will have? Another one illumos based server distribution?! The community will do whatever the community

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, mag...@yonderway.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:25:13 +, openbabel openba...@gmail.com wrote: As an Enterprise system the commercial view should prevail? This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise desktop operating system. I would take

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Chan
webmin? Ick. Swapping a desktop gui for a web gui...still get a gui. So just offshore the gui problem eh? On Thursday, November 01, 2012 06:55 AM, Roel_D wrote: A GUI is only needed when you want to use the gui I see more benefit in better webmin-support for zfs, mysql and other

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, November 01, 2012 03:01 AM, Ben Taylor wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, openbabelopenba...@gmail.com wrote: I am of a commercial view. I am interested in the most popular desktop and most developed environment which is accepted by the current or potential user base.It

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
WindowMaker sounds good. Used it for a while a few years ago. Been thinking about looking at it again. :) -- Sent from my Jelly Bean Galaxy Nexus Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On Thursday, November 01, 2012 03:01 AM, Ben Taylor wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Jerry Kemp
I used WindowMaker for a couple years myself. It is an easy compile on *Solaris and works well. At least it compiled easy for me. I ultimately went back to OpenWindows. I own a large stock of Solaris 8 media, so I will never be without my OpenWindows packages. Jerry Kemp On 10/31/12 08:18

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.net wrote: 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable 62 MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for improvement. Does your gigabit

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 31, 2012, at 3:37 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: 2012-10-31 13:58, Sebastian Gabler wrote: 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable 62 MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Timothy Coalson
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@richardelling.com wrote: On the target system I am seeing writes up to 160 MB/s with frequent zpool iostat probes. When iostat probes are up to 5s+, there is a steady stream of 62 MB/s. I believe this *may* mean that your