Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
)))THANK YOU) Sorry, last msg. for today before the upload completes, must pack boxes w/o accidently touching the half-broken dsl cable. off the screen now ... %martin On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Frank Lahm frankl...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/29 Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org:

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Funding Martin, was Re: OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Dave McGuire
On 01/28/2013 08:18 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: I'd like to suggest funding Martin. He's committed and needs the money. Even as little as $50US per site would certainly help him a lot. I'd be happy to pay $100US/year to have him work on OI in a stable living situation. I suspect he'd be

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
Or still one thing that troubles me: Everybody who ever donates to this project goes into a dedicated SPONSORS section. Ken Mays already offered us to help with our wiki and web-page. This means we will have a nice site quite soon :) Based on the other slide-show and web-page that I had prepped

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Funding Martin, was Re: OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Frank Lahm
2013/1/29 Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com: On 01/28/2013 08:18 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: I'd like to suggest funding Martin. He's committed and needs the money. Even as little as $50US per site would certainly help him a lot. I'd be happy to pay $100US/year to have him work on OI in a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Jerry Kemp
Martin, Is there any way to provide funds other than paypal? I'm in the States, if that makes any difference. Either way, thank you for all your efforts towards SPARC, they are appreciated. Jerry On 01/29/13 01:11 AM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: Reginald Beardsley writes: I'd like to suggest

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread openbabel
On 28/01/2013 13:55, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: How much are you willing to pay for this service? Correct me if I am wrong, but roadmap and paid services are different things. The fact that OI is an open source and community driven project does not mean a no roadmap strategy. - Dmitry.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread James Relph
As I understand it the strategy was always to encourage the proliferation of solution providers and integrators to fulfill this function.These It was thought would form in the market where a stable release,sufficient development had taken place to provide significant market penetration and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread James Relph
Which is fine to some extent, but what that has led to are a lot of quite specific solutions for situations not everyone is in (SmartOS is obviously heavily cloud-oriented) or companies very focussed on selling (not necessarily cheap) support. I'd quite like to see OpenIndiana thrive as a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Funding Martin, was Re: OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread James Relph
As Martin mentions SCHUFA it seems Martin is already fallen off the cliff, so I'd like to encourage anbody who's considering to donate something to Martin's efforts to act *now*. --f I've sent something as well Martin, hope we can get rid of that negative symbol James

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI 151_a7 install on 4k sector disk

2013-01-29 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-01-28 19:54, Reginald Beardsley wrote: My understanding is that it is not possible to boot from an EFI labeled disk. Has that changed? In a way it's moot as I just got the UPS tracking info for 3x2 TB disks. But the info might help someone else. The Oracle docs I was pointed to were

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI 151_a7 install on 4k sector disk

2013-01-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
--- On Tue, 1/29/13, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: In my Wiki post you've read, one of the reasons to do manual installs (copy of files from Live media) was explicitly the desire to co-exist OI with an older rpool, i.e. to facilitate migration. I have one such system where SXCE-117

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
How about something along the lines of the following: List active developers on the website for OI along w/ what they are working on. If you want to fund that person's work, you sign up to provide a certain amount which is divided into equal allotments for each month remaining in the calendar

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread James Relph
How about something along the lines of the following: List active developers on the website for OI along w/ what they are working on. If you want to fund that person's work, you sign up to provide a certain amount which is divided into equal allotments for each month remaining in the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
--- On Tue, 1/29/13, James Relph ja...@themacplace.co.uk wrote: That sounds a pretty reasonable approach, although there's 2 things I'd add:     -    The possibility to add bounties for requested features.     -    As Jonathan mentions - having a common pot (eg. 20% of donations go to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 29/01/2013 17:36, Reginald Beardsley wrote: I'd like to suggest as a social convention that the initial license fee be 10% of system cost UAHHH ! Then we should have stayed at Oracle.. Really, if you solve a problem for one system, why should someone pay for the other 99 identical

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread James Relph
I'd like to suggest as a social convention that the initial license fee be 10% of system cost and support fee after the first year at 5%. Purely voluntary the way tipping service staff in restaurants used to be. No distinction between used or new equipment. So if you spin up an old SPARC

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
--- On Tue, 1/29/13, Udo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu wrote: From: Udo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Funding Martin, was Re: OpenIndiana roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Jasse Jansson
On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:08 PM, James Relph wrote: As Martin mentions SCHUFA it seems Martin is already fallen off the cliff, so I'd like to encourage anbody who's considering to donate something to Martin's efforts to act *now*. --f I've sent something as well Martin, hope we can get rid

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI 151_a7 install on 4k sector disk

2013-01-29 Thread Dave Miner
On 01/29/13 06:56, Jim Klimov wrote: On 2013-01-28 19:54, Reginald Beardsley wrote: My understanding is that it is not possible to boot from an EFI labeled disk. Has that changed? In a way it's moot as I just got the UPS tracking info for 3x2 TB disks. But the info might help someone else.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
I don't mean to discourage this dialog, but all of this was discussed two or three - maybe four - months ago on the dev mailing list. You might want to go back and look at the archives at the threads about Alasdair's resignation - which basically boiled down to none of the OI developers want

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Erlang version update to Erlang/OTP R15B03-1???

2013-01-29 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
Would it be too much to ask for someone to update the erlang package to the latest erlang release? I e Erlang/OTP R15B03-1 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 01/29/13 06:47 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: --- On Tue, 1/29/13, Udo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu wrote: From: Udo Grabowski (IMK) udo.grabow...@kit.edu Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana-discuss Digest, Vol 30, Issue 61

2013-01-29 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
Even though I'm just a private user of OpenIndiana, I'd be happy to commit a minimum of 50 USD / year for maintaining a reasonable roadmap, IF I KNEW where to send it and how, and felt reasonably certain I knew how it would be used. Paypal, a few bills in an envelope,. just let me know.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Developer funding model musings

2013-01-29 Thread James Relph
I, personally, appreciate their efforts very much. I just think that funding individual developers is probably the best we can reasonably hope for at this time. It's not as complete of a solution as paying one or more people to work on OI full time; but at least it would be a step in that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] Status of SPARC

2013-01-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hello, well, explanation: It is not fake. Back in August I had called this SB2000's root pool rpool__oi. And yes, svr4.opensxce.org is not yet online. Locally I simply emulate this via files instead of dns. But you can test it in a few hours. thanks for your continued patience. gcc444 is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] Status of SPARC

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Gress
On 01/29/13 06:52 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: Hello, well, explanation: It is not fake. Back in August I had called this SB2000's root pool rpool__oi. And yes, svr4.opensxce.org is not yet online. Locally I simply emulate this via files instead of dns. When i had a website without DNS I simply

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] Status of SPARC

2013-01-29 Thread Roel_D
Martin, Shall i link www.ourdistro.org to this IP? Kind regards, The out-side Op 30 jan. 2013 om 01:07 heeft Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net het volgende geschreven: On 01/29/13 06:52 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: Hello, well, explanation: It is not fake. Back in August I had called this