On January 8, 2021 1:27:34 AM UTC, Chris wrote:
>On 2021-01-07 13:50, Guenther Alka wrote:
>> In the end I do not think in these categories.
>>
>> A few years ago all my own servers were OpenIndiana and maybe 40% of
>my
>> users on
>> Solaris. Now I am 100% on OmniOS beside a OI evaluation
On 2021-01-07 13:50, Guenther Alka wrote:
In the end I do not think in these categories.
A few years ago all my own servers were OpenIndiana and maybe 40% of my
users on
Solaris. Now I am 100% on OmniOS beside a OI evaluation machine (and miss OI
features and use cases) and maybe 10% of my
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 11:04 PM Till Wegmueller
wrote:
> No. Nobody is ever too small to achieve something. You just need to be
> clever about it. We always have the assumption that building packages is
> the main burden for Systems, but that is only if you don't have the
> right automation. And
No. Nobody is ever too small to achieve something. You just need to be
clever about it. We always have the assumption that building packages is
the main burden for Systems, but that is only if you don't have the
right automation. And that is possible. Fully automate bumping package
versions is
In the end I do not think in these categories.
A few years ago all my own servers were OpenIndiana and maybe 40% of my
users on Solaris. Now I am 100% on OmniOS beside a OI evaluation machine
(and miss OI features and use cases) and maybe 10% of my users are left
on Solaris with OI near to
Nope
On 07.01.21 18:05, Guenther Alka wrote:
Please ignore my lack of knowledge if I am not correct or simplify too
much.
As far as I know kayak is a tool to setup OmniOS. I do not use. I
download either the OI or OmniOS installer, create a bootable dvd or USB
stick from it and install the
Please ignore my lack of knowledge if I am not correct or simplify too much.
As far as I know kayak is a tool to setup OmniOS. I do not use. I
download either the OI or OmniOS installer, create a bootable dvd or USB
stick from it and install the OS. When I use the OI text installer the
result
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 6:23 PM Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
> Am 07.01.21 um 18:08 schrieb Guenther Alka:
> > Not broken as it never worked
> > (multi purpose Illumos Unix with a stable/long term stable/newest beta
> > base).
> >
> > OI currently: always and only newest beta based
> > so Yes: (maybe
So, to that question a bit of Background. OmniOS is more than just
illumos and omni repo. It's also kayak and all their Projects. That is a
huge amount of projects.
There was work to allow installation of omnios illumos-gate instead of
illumos-gate by simply switching packages. That can work,
delevopers.
Nona
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"I also own a project with mainly me and a few contributors
I also own a project with mainly me and a few contributors (napp-it).
It's not the number of devs but the spirit to do something that matters.
You exactly point to the essential point.
With not enough people working on something not paid for doing without
hope and energy your only choices are
I forgot
What is the problem to install either pure Illumos or a Illumos freeze
from OmniOS and use the OI repository additional to the core OmniOS and
OmniOS extra repository to use the additional options?
Where are the problems? Is this only to have same packages in different
repositories
Am 07.01.21 um 18:08 schrieb Guenther Alka:
Not broken as it never worked
(multi purpose Illumos Unix with a stable/long term stable/newest beta
base).
OI currently: always and only newest beta based
so Yes: (maybe easy to say as I cannot help to do the needed work -
unsure about the needed
Not broken as it never worked
(multi purpose Illumos Unix with a stable/long term stable/newest beta
base).
OI currently: always and only newest beta based
so Yes: (maybe easy to say as I cannot help to do the needed work -
unsure about the needed efforts)
When I remember the first steps of
On 2021-01-07 06:02, Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss wrote:
Well spoken,, Gea! I am in favour of consolidating the OpenSolarish
community. If
merging would reinvogarate interest and momentum, it can be worth it. And
you guys
have been discussing this merging for ages, it is your old idea
Well spoken,, Gea! I am in favour of consolidating the OpenSolarish community.
If merging would reinvogarate interest and momentum, it can be worth it. And
you guys have been discussing this merging for ages, it is your old idea taken
up again. It seems that several of you think this is the
cc:omnios-discuss
I am a bit late to this discussion.
The same discussion happened when OmniTi closed OmniOS and OmniOS CE
started. I was strongly in favour to combine OmniOS and OI efforts then
as both are too small on their own to be relevant beside to a niche
market each but it did not
On 2021-01-06 12:19, Aurélien Larcher wrote:
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 8:58 PM Jim Klimov wrote:
On January 6, 2021 4:33:23 PM UTC, Apostolos Syropoulos <
asyropou...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Is IDLE packaged by OI? Missing a dependency then?
>
>This means that IDLE should be packaged with the
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 8:58 PM Jim Klimov wrote:
> On January 6, 2021 4:33:23 PM UTC, Apostolos Syropoulos <
> asyropou...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Is IDLE packaged by OI? Missing a dependency then?
> >
> >This means that IDLE should be packaged with the tkinter?
> >A.s.
>
On January 6, 2021 4:33:23 PM UTC, Apostolos Syropoulos
wrote:
>
>>Is IDLE packaged by OI? Missing a dependency then?
>
>This means that IDLE should be packaged with the tkinter?
>A.s.
>--
>Apostolos Syropoulos
>Xanthi, Greece
Rather, IF it is packaged, then its IPS metadata
>Is IDLE packaged by OI? Missing a dependency then?
This means that IDLE should be packaged with the tkinter?
A.s.
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Xanthi, Greece
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On January 5, 2021 4:58:46 PM UTC, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
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>>> $ pkg list -a|grep tkinter-37
>>> library/python/tkinter-37 3.7.7-2020.0.1.1
>>You omitted the most important column: it should be i-- and not ---
>
>Today I installed the missing
Am 05.01.21 um 17:58 schrieb Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss:
$ pkg list -a|grep tkinter-37
library/python/tkinter-37 3.7.7-2020.0.1.1
You omitted the most important column: it should be i-- and not ---
Today I installed the missing package and IDLE is
>> $ pkg list -a|grep tkinter-37
>> library/python/tkinter-37 3.7.7-2020.0.1.1
>You omitted the most important column: it should be i-- and not ---
Today I installed the missing package and IDLE is working just fine.
BTW, this is a piece of information that should be added
Maybe web developers or headless machines without X do not need it?
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On 1/4/21 2:11 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote:
OK I got it but still the question is: Why tkinteris a separate package? IMHO,
it makes nosense to have as a separate package. Afterall it is part of the core
python distribution.
Because some people want to install
OK I got it but still the question is: Why tkinteris a separate package? IMHO,
it makes nosense to have as a separate package. Afterall it is part of the core
python distribution.
AS
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Wacknitz
Am 04.01.21 um 18:44 schrieb Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss:
Make sure you have installed tkinter-37:
$ pkg list -a|grep tkinter-37
library/python/tkinter-37 (openindiana.org) 3.7.7-2020.0.1.1 i--
For me it works as expected.
Well the package is installed but idle3.7
>Make sure you have installed tkinter-37:
>$ pkg list -a|grep tkinter-37
>library/python/tkinter-37 (openindiana.org) 3.7.7-2020.0.1.1 i--
>
>For me it works as expected.
Well the package is installed but idle3.7 is not working:
$ pkg list -a|grep tkinter-37
library/python/tkinter-37
Am 04.01.21 um 17:10 schrieb Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss:
On Monday, January 4, 2021, 5:00:08 PM GMT+2, Aurélien Larcher
wrote:
I am just a bit concerned that with the current model some things may
diverge too much: last time I worked on updating Python 3.7 and 3.8 test
On Monday, January 4, 2021, 5:00:08 PM GMT+2, Aurélien Larcher
wrote:
>I am just a bit concerned that with the current model some things may
>diverge too much: last time I worked on updating Python 3.7 and 3.8 test
>suite results looked very different on OmniOS and OI.
>Also the merge commit
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 10:05 PM Chris wrote:
> On 2020-12-31 04:25, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
> > Am 30.12.20 um 21:14 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz:
> >> Am 30.12.20 um 19:10 schrieb Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss:
> >>> I have a problem with my mail list settings, so I write one single
> >>>
On 2020-12-31 04:25, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
Am 30.12.20 um 21:14 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz:
Am 30.12.20 um 19:10 schrieb Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss:
I have a problem with my mail list settings, so I write one single
reply, adressing three different persons. I am a newbie to the
I have to say the build and package environment is one of the best in
open source but takes some time to learn.
It is really worth it though.
I find it the best laid out one for the casual user who wants his own
packages.
I would use more but my machines are old and slow.
There were and
Am 30.12.20 um 21:14 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz:
Am 30.12.20 um 19:10 schrieb Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss:
I have a problem with my mail list settings, so I write one single
reply, adressing three different persons. I am a newbie to the
OpenSolarish scene, so I dont know much about it,
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Aur?lien Larcher wrote:
; I think merging both makes sense to gain momentum and stopping reinventing
; the wheel given the number of developers (us pulling from OmniOS and
; Dominik packaging stuff that we already have).
I wasn't originally subscribed to this list but I've
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try to separate paragraphs with dots now.
.
@Peter Tribble,You have a point in that it is easier for a lone developer to do
what he wants,
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 13:00, Peter Tribble wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss <
> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
> > A question. I am sure this has been discussed before, but maybe it is time
> > to update the discussion? :)
> > As I have
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:39 AM Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
> A question. I am sure this has been discussed before, but maybe it is time
> to update the discussion? :)
> As I have understood it, OmniOS is a robust server OS with no good
@Andreas,>Adding a desktop on top of OmniOSce is A LOT OF WORK. Maintaining a
>desktop is quite more complex than focussing on the server aspects of an
>OS alone. The amount of work that is already done
>for OI (many parts of it inherited from OpenSolaris) is tremendous. If
>"we" start this
Am 30.12.20 um 19:10 schrieb Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss:
I have a problem with my mail list settings, so I write one single reply,
adressing three different persons. I am a newbie to the OpenSolarish scene, so
I dont know much about it, or who the people we should talk to, though. :)
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss wrote:
I bet many more than I, would be very excited in one unified illumos
distro where we merge OmniOS and OI. I understand there is lot of
prestige involved, but if we dont do want OpenSolaris to diminish
and die to Linux, we all
Am 30.12.20 um 12:38 schrieb Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss:
A question. I am sure this has been discussed before, but maybe it is time to
update the discussion? :)
As I have understood it, OmniOS is a robust server OS with no good desktop
environment. It is possible to install X11,
This is something that was discussed in the past when OmniOSCE was created
but back then there was a focus on providing continuity of releases and too
few people: the goal for to have a true reference distribution.
Back then Adam and I had suggested to merge the distributions given the
size of
A question. I am sure this has been discussed before, but maybe it is time to
update the discussion? :)
As I have understood it, OmniOS is a robust server OS with no good desktop
environment. It is possible to install X11,
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