Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

[mailto:openba...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 March 2017 10:34 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana <openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near I think this is off topic noise..but my opinion is that this is the result of a decision by Fujitsu to back ARM techno

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near, Udo Grabowski said...: You need reliable sources: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/23/oracle_layoffs_in_hardware_div/> I haven't seen any posts to the list from Alan Coopersmith since this thread started;

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/25/17 11:15 AM, Tim Mooney wrote: In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near, Udo Grabowski said...: You need reliable sources: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/23/oracle_layoffs_in_hardware_div/> I haven't seen any posts to the list from Alan Coopersmith

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near, Alan Coopersmith...: I haven't seen any posts to the list from Alan Coopersmith since this thread started; here's hoping Alan escaped this unscathed. Then you must have deleted all the e-mails I sent: Sorry Alan, I meant since

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Hello guys, could we please stop debating things unrelated to OpenIndiana on OpenIndiana mailing lists? Thanks for understanding. Cheers, Adam > On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Tim Mooney <tim.moo...@ndsu.edu> wrote: > > In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near, Udo Grabowski said...: You need reliable sources: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/23/oracle_layoffs_in_hardware_div/> I haven't seen any posts to the list from Alan Coopersmith since this thread started; here's hoping Alan e

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: On 24 January 2017 at 02:53, Michael Kruger wrote: No, my evidence is purely anecdotal and soley based on the prima facie value of the company sacking 40% percent of the sparc team. Where did you found that they are sucking 40% of the sparc

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 24 January 2017 at 02:53, Michael Kruger wrote: > No, my evidence is purely anecdotal and soley based on the prima facie > value of the company sacking 40% percent of the sparc team. > Where did you found that they are sucking 40% of the sparc team? (using google I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Aurélien Larcher < aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes but this means that all people who want to contribute should be >> welcome... >> > > Everyone is welcome :) > And by that I also mean that we *do* need help with maintaining packages in oi-userland,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Yes but this means that all people who want to contribute should be > welcome... > Everyone is welcome :) > > A.S. > > -- > Apostolos Syropoulos > Xanthi, Greece > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

>Apart form Christian references.. ;) (that actually never came into life >or were constantly coming again , for one's frame of reference), What do you mean by Christian references? Also, are there Muslim references? >I only see renaming it to 11.x and stating in Alan's posted PDF link, >S11.x

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Nikola M writes: > Openindiana community is better off trying to fix illumos and > Openindiana issues and prepare to be more production-ready in all > aspects, including financing, ideas, organization but most importantly > new maintainers and contributors of all kind. > > We like it open, we

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/18/17 08:52 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/sparc/oracle-sparc/sparc-roadmap-slide-2076743.pdf -- Apostolos Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece Apart form Christian references.. ;) (that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/23/2017 08:31 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: Can you show any facts/numbers supporting such thesis? Do you know anything about abandoning any Oracle internal projects in which some work on new Solaris features has been or will be abandoned? Is it not kind of contradiction with your claim

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

In message , =?UTF-8?Q?Tomasz_K=C5=82oczko?= writes: >On 23 January 2017 at 22:25, Michael Kruger wrote: >> actually be helpful to the project. Maybe it could mean more users and more >> developers. >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 23 January 2017 at 22:25, Michael Kruger wrote: > Solaris on Sparc looks to be dead and (it appears) i386 as well, but > against all odds, OpenIndiana somehow lives on. For i386 users that might > actually be helpful to the project. Maybe it could mean more users and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Concluding that to represent the death of either Solaris or SPARC contradicts a very recent timeline http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/sparc/oracle-sparc/sparc-roadmap-slide-2076743.pdf let alone the current support document, which says Solaris 11 Initial release Nov

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Solaris on Sparc looks to be dead and (it appears) i386 as well, but against all odds, OpenIndiana somehow lives on. For i386 users that might actually be helpful to the project. Maybe it could mean more users and more developers. As for Oracle though, it would seem their killing off

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

The end is apparently even nearer than presumed: http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-lays-off-more-than-1000-employees/ Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Hi, Seems it is akin to other OS providers naming upcoming product releases - without specific or proposed dates.Also, if proposed features get change/add/deleted or get stalled in development. Oracle Solaris 11.3 is still one of the best stable production-grade OSes... ~ Ken On

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 20/01/2017 17:29, John D Groenveld wrote: In message , Fred Liu writ es: Nexenta has to co-work with hardware OEMs for nexentastor is just software. As long as I know, they rolled out they-called software-defined storage applianc es with

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Sorry, didn't realize this fishworks video wasn't commonplace. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4 " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

In message , Fred Liu writ es: >Nexenta has to co-work with hardware OEMs for nexentastor is just software. As > long as I know, they rolled out they-called software-defined storage applianc >es with Dell, PogoLinux, Supermicro etc. I even

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

> -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Adams [mailto:t12nsloo...@gmail.com] > Sent: 星期五, 一月 20, 2017 18:23 > To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near > > On 20 January 2017 at 02:14, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <shadowh

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

> -Original Message- > From: Alan Coopersmith [mailto:alan.coopersm...@oracle.com] > Sent: 星期五, 一月 20, 2017 8:44 > To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana; Apostolos Syropoulos > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near > > On 01/19/17 12:38 AM, Fre

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 20 January 2017 at 02:14, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/systems/storage/sds/nexentastor/ > > ... > > " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the > first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/systems/storage/sds/nexentastor/ I've seen that Lenovo is offering a NexentaStor-based appliance, is that anything similar to what Oracle is offering, fishworks-style? Still the only thing I've seen from Fishworks is a cool YouTube video showing how much vibration

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/19/17 12:38 AM, Fred Liu wrote: From that roadmap, my understanding is there is no on-premise and standalone Solaris and SPARC releases after 2017 and everything goes into cloud. Then you're misunderstanding the roadmap, which shows both on-premise & cloud releases going forward until

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/19/17 09:04 AM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: The most interesting thing in http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/sparc/oracle-sparc/sparc-roadmap-slide-2076743.pdf for me is "Software in Silicon". I may be wrong, but I'm under impression that Oracle integrates parts of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

The most interesting thing in http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/sparc/oracle-sparc/sparc-roadmap-slide-2076743.pdf for me is "Software in Silicon". I may be wrong, but I'm under impression that Oracle integrates parts of Solaris into hardware.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

> -Original Message- > From: Alan Coopersmith [mailto:alan.coopersm...@oracle.com] > Sent: 星期四, 一月 19, 2017 13:25 > To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana; Apostolos Syropoulos > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near > > On 01/18/17 08:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/18/17 08:58 PM, Fred Liu wrote: Will they still sell data machine, fishwork storage? Yes - those systems have their own roadmap, separate from the SPARC & Solaris roadmap. (But we're really getting off-topic here for the OpenIndiana mailing list.) -alan-

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

Will they still sell data machine, fishwork storage? > -Original Message- > From: Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss > [mailto:openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org] > Sent: 星期四, 一月 19, 2017 3:53 > To: Discussion List for OpenIndiana > Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/18/17 12:33 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: Really? 2034 still seems so far away now... http://www.oracle.com/us/support/library/lifetime-support-hardware-301321.pdf (pg. 37) Well I do not see anything about Solaris 12 on page 37. The support life document doesn't say anything about

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

posix_spawn() syscall, preferably one which can handle primary gid changes and a envp in one go? /proc-independent fexecve() with syscall compatibility to Solaris 11.3/4? Ced On 18 January 2017 at 22:18, John D Groenveld wrote: > In message

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

In message <806720542.5577156.1484771607...@mail.yahoo.com>, Apostolos Syropoul os via openindiana-discuss writes: >So one can conclude there will be no Solaris 12 release. >Personally, I would like to see this but I am not sure it > >will happen. Were there any planned S12 features, presumably

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: > > Why "The End is near"? Sounds the SPARC platform will be continued > > beyond 2020, right? > > Obviously I do not care about SPARC machines... But I see no Solaris 12...

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

> Really? 2034 still seems so far away now... > > http://www.oracle.com/us/support/library/lifetime-support-hardware-301321.pdf > (pg. 37) > Well I do not see anything about Solaris 12 on page 37. So one can conclude there will be no Solaris 12 release. Personally, I would like to see this

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

It may or may not be. But, it list Solaris-next from 2017 out. I remember going to Oracle briefings, and they did the same stupid thing in 2011. They were calling the next release Solaris next, like there might be some better name other than Solaris 11. You may or may not be right, I have

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/18/17 12:13 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: Why "The End is near"? Sounds the SPARC platform will be continued beyond 2020, right? Obviously I do not care about SPARC machines... But I see no Solaris 12... It seems that Solaris 11.4 will be the last release of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

On 01/18/17 11:52 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/sparc/oracle-sparc/sparc-roadmap-slide-2076743.pdf Really? 2034 still seems so far away now...

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The end is near

> Why "The End is near"? Sounds the SPARC platform will be continued > beyond 2020, right? Obviously I do not care about SPARC machines... But I see no Solaris 12... It seems that Solaris 11.4 will be the last release of Solaris. A.S. -- Apostolos Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece