Re: Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-03 Thread Eric Bresie
I assume since JFX stated with and was closely coupled with Java prior to being removed from the JDK/JRE, this allow for the link up with the java bug link. The case could be made it could be similar to the other library’s. I believe some other existing libraries (JAXB?) were removed [maybe

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-03 Thread Robert Lichtenberger
I think I can comment from the perspective of a successful user of JavaFX (we have been running an administration application for our medical software for over 5 years now) as well as a part-time contributor to the JavaFX project (with the help of Kevin Rushforth and Ajit Ghaisas my pull request

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-03 Thread naastonn
What do you think about decoupling javafx.controls from other modules private API? Is it possible? In current situation it may be the best solution, because this would allow to fork it. So, those who interested could play with fork(s) and backport changes when neccessary. It would also allow to

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-02 Thread Julian Jupiter
Desktop is already a smaller market compared before. And the competition has become toucher because of several toolkits out there - Electron, Flutter, Compose for Desktop, etc. Hence, the need for more open and community-driven JavaFX project. On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 12:14 PM Ty Young, wrote: > On

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-02 Thread Ty Young
On 2/2/21 8:16 PM, Nir Lisker wrote: Hi Mike, First of all, I would have you consider revisiting your medical observation on the state of JavaFX. If you've read the almost-weekly recurrent threads of "should I use Swing or JavaFX" in r/Java, you'd realize that reports of JavaFX's death are

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-02 Thread Nir Lisker
Hi Mike, First of all, I would have you consider revisiting your medical observation on the state of JavaFX. If you've read the almost-weekly recurrent threads of "should I use Swing or JavaFX" in r/Java, you'd realize that reports of JavaFX's death are greatly exaggerated. But yes, it is very

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-02 Thread Kevin Rushforth
There are two separate issues here. I won't address the first point from the initial poster, other than to say that I understand that the lack of direct write access to JBS for occasional contributors is a pain point. I don't think it is stopping anyone from contributing, though. As for the

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-02 Thread Michael Paus
1+ Am 02.02.21 um 15:12 schrieb Pedro Duque Vieira: Hi, Although I don't agree with everything said here at the start of this thread, I agree with the base idea that JavaFX would benefit from being more open than it is currently. It's something I've already said here in this mailing list and

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-02 Thread Pedro Duque Vieira
Hi, Although I don't agree with everything said here at the start of this thread, I agree with the base idea that JavaFX would benefit from being more open than it is currently. It's something I've already said here in this mailing list and since it's been a while and that discussion probably

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-01 Thread Tom Eugelink
I have to agree. All the protection measures, although well intended originally, are not helping. On 2-2-2021 08:02, Julian Jupiter wrote: Yes, please! Julez On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, 2:37 PM , wrote: Hello. JavaFX is a great toolkit, which personally I like a lot, but it's slowly dying

Re: Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-01 Thread Julian Jupiter
Yes, please! Julez On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, 2:37 PM , wrote: > Hello. > > JavaFX is a great toolkit, which personally I like a lot, but it's slowly > dying for the past 5 years. You can barely > argue with that. Most of the devs still prefer Swing. Have a look how many > topics like "JavaFX is

Make javafx.controls open and community-driven

2021-02-01 Thread naastonn
Hello. JavaFX is a great toolkit, which personally I like a lot, but it's slowly dying for the past 5 years. You can barely argue with that. Most of the devs still prefer Swing. Have a look how many topics like "JavaFX is dead" on Reddit or similar resources. Look how many community libraries