Re: How to attach files to Jira?

2013-09-30 Thread Tom Schindl
This was turned off long time ago to avoid spam and upload of viruses. What I don't understand is why people who e.g. filed 10bug reports or made 10 comments, asked for upload permission at this very list, ... don't get the possibility. Another option would be to only allow patches / text files.

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
I suppose „legal reasons“…. For me it’s very frustrating to see every year the same procedure: JavaFX-iOS/Android related tracks were canceled - „nerd“ stuff like Rasp.PI, DukePad Co were announced. Maybe I’m really the only one who needs JavaFX on mobile to use JavaFX on desktop as well… :(

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
No, you are *not* the only one. We *all* need it. In fact, without it happening soon, JavaFX is already dead. But let's not give up yet. Perhaps it's closer than we know. I am a glass half full kinda guy :-) On 30 Sep 2013, at 16:40, Tobias Bley t...@ultramixer.com wrote: I suppose

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
I don’t understand why „all“ this people who needs JavaFX on iOS/Android does not tell it Oracles management. And I don’t understand why all this people use their time to develop all this demos and Rasp.PI stuff. Who needs it? Why don’t we develop base stuff like iOS skins, Android skins,

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
I am sure Oracle management get it. There are lots of issues here, not just technical. I am sure they want to get it perfect before they announce anything. Let's hope that's why nothing has eventuated yet... On 30 Sep 2013, at 17:04, Tobias Bley t...@ultramixer.com wrote: I don’t

Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Daniel Zwolenski
The lack of information on iOS/Android is a major bummer, but this also highlights a deeper problem here. We have a situation where Oracle won't talk to this community because the topic is important, it's too big a game changer for them to comment on. It's tied in with share prices, and market

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
I absolutely agree Daniel. I opened a very important bug reporting concerning JFX performance on iPhone which currently prevents using JavaFX (and RoboVM) to build apps for the iPhone (https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-31453) this bug report is open since 3(!) month! How shall the

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Anton Epple
I'm also optimistic. We've all seen that it's possible from the technical side… I think it takes quite some time to get legal approvement inside Oracle to show something. Probably those guys simply didn't get their talks legally approved in time. BTW: There's a new implementation of JavaFX

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Udo Rader
If you add the pieces of information together (announced and then shortly cancelled J1 talks), you perfectly get the right picture. The *problem* certainly is not the technical part. While I disagree that the RPi is just nerd stuff (the embedded market is huge), I agree however that any further

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
Yes but the point is: that has nothing to do with a real „JavaFX community“. Am 30.09.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com: I am sure Oracle management get it. There are lots of issues here, not just technical. I am sure they want to get it perfect before they

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Anton Epple
Performance differs depending on the browser. bck2brwsr is heavily optimized for Chrome. The demos I've seen are running with 40-50FPS on Chrome but much slower in Firefox. Performance on Chrome seemed definitely good enough to create normal applications. Being aware that some things are not

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
I urge everyone *not* to walk away from JavaFX, at least not yet. As has been pointed out, there were several sessions scheduled for J1 relating to JavaFX on mobiles and tablets that were only cancelled at the very last minute. I see this as a definite positive. To me that says that they truly

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
Pardon? It’s not allowed to discuss with the JavaFX community the future of the technology and community in their mailing list??? What’s up Hervé? Am 30.09.2013 um 12:03 schrieb Hervé Girod herve.gi...@gmail.com: It's not the place to talk politics here. If you want to channel your

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
Yes, perhaps Oracle have not yet grasped the degree of importance of actively engaging the community in a project that is supposed to be community-based. I suspect the limited resources of the JavaFX team are working flat-out just to get new versions released and to meet the targets for JFX8 and

Re: How to attach files to Jira?

2013-09-30 Thread Sebastian Rheinnecker
Agree, this would make posting SSCCE so much easier, I always have to plain write them into the description of the bug report, which is ugly... Kind regards, Sebastian Rheinnecker Am 30.09.2013 08:26, schrieb Tom Schindl: This was turned off long time ago to avoid spam and upload of viruses.

Re: How to attach files to Jira?

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
+1 On 30 September 2013 20:25, Sebastian Rheinnecker sebastian.rheinnec...@yworks.com wrote: Agree, this would make posting SSCCE so much easier, I always have to plain write them into the description of the bug report, which is ugly... Kind regards, Sebastian Rheinnecker Am 30.09.2013

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Ali Ebrahimi
Yes, but they use that for ADF mobile. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Tobias Bley t...@ultramixer.com wrote: Does Oracle really has an AOT based JVM for iOS and Android? Am 30.09.2013 um 11:16 schrieb Udo Rader list...@bestsolution.at: If you add the pieces of information together

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
I don’t think you. ADF mobile uses HTML5 as frontend, so there is no need to execute JavaFX code on the client… maybe there is a J2ME based VM in ADF (like Codename One do) Am 30.09.2013 um 13:58 schrieb Ali Ebrahimi ali.ebrahimi1...@gmail.com: Yes, but they use that for ADF mobile. On

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Matthias Hänel
Hi, @Felix: you are kidding are you? We cannot take another breath without choking on it. Sure there are many positive things about JavaFX but in the real world I can't be happy over and over again about the same things. A university can just devlop until a certain point, but we have a

hg: openjfx/8/graphics/rt: Reverted accidental part of fix for RT-29891

2013-09-30 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 0148423079ac Author:Lubomir Nerad lubomir.ne...@oracle.com Date: 2013-09-30 14:09 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8/graphics/rt/rev/0148423079ac Reverted accidental part of fix for RT-29891 !

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:48:10 +0200, Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com wrote: I urge everyone *not* to walk away from JavaFX, at least not yet. As has been pointed out, there were several sessions scheduled for J1 relating to JavaFX on mobiles and tablets that were only cancelled at the

hg: openjfx/8/graphics/rt: Android: Use lens multitouch and gestures support.

2013-09-30 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: af515f1eeb5d Author:tb115823 tomas.branda...@oracle.com Date: 2013-09-30 15:55 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8/graphics/rt/rev/af515f1eeb5d Android: Use lens multitouch and gestures support. !

Re: JavaOne roundup?

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
Ok thx, than I will wait until there is this tooling support for JavaFX as well. Am 30.09.2013 um 16:43 schrieb Anton Epple toni.ep...@eppleton.de: bck2brwsr has really good tooling, and you can get started in less than an hour. Here is a tutorial:

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Anton Epple
Hi guys, I understand your frustration about the cancelled sessions, and I share it. But when I talk to the engineers and see their posts here, they're clearly interested in the same stuff we'd like to see in JavaFX. I guess nobody was more frustrated that these sessions were cancelled than

How do non-authors report bugs?

2013-09-30 Thread Pete Brunet
For those without JBS accounts what is the right web site to use to report bugs?

Re: How do non-authors report bugs?

2013-09-30 Thread Kevin Rushforth
FX does not use JBS -- we have a separate JIRA instance. Your question is probably best asked on an OpenJDK alias. -- Kevin Pete Brunet wrote: For those without JBS accounts what is the right web site to use to report bugs?

Re: How do non-authors report bugs?

2013-09-30 Thread Pete Brunet
Sorry for the spam Kevin. Yes, I asked this on the wrong list. On 9/30/13 10:59 AM, Kevin Rushforth wrote: FX does not use JBS -- we have a separate JIRA instance. Your question is probably best asked on an OpenJDK alias. -- Kevin Pete Brunet wrote: For those without JBS accounts what is

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Tom Eugelink
Hello Matthias, This is just how Oracle rolls, we have to get used to it. And actually it is not that bad of an attitude; never make a promise you can't keep. When deliver, deliver well. I'm in a project which communicates way to much to end users and they keep being disappointed. I kinda

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread John Hendrikx
On 30/09/2013 17:38, Anton Epple wrote: Hi guys, I understand your frustration about the cancelled sessions, and I share it. But when I talk to the engineers and see their posts here, they're clearly interested in the same stuff we'd like to see in JavaFX. I guess nobody was more

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Tom Eugelink
On 2013-09-30 18:27, John Hendrikx wrote: To be honest, it is likely JavaFX already missed its window to become relevant on Android and iOS. Maybe, but I've done my fair share of UI toolkits and JFX really has some great features compared to the others (not counting layout - pun intended

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Richard Bair
2. Wow, there is a JavaFX enabled Dukepad. Beeing a soldering nerd myself, hacking firmware and much cool stuff in my spare time it really kicked me in the first place. Then I grounded when I have seen that it was a childish puzzle with lego blocks. What? The longer I think about that,

RE: How to attach files to Jira?

2013-09-30 Thread John Smith
I suggest posting your SSCCE on gist and linking to it from the bug report: https://gist.github.com/ -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Felix Bembrick Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:28 AM To:

Re: problem with javaFX canvas

2013-09-30 Thread Joseph Andresen
Hello Cinta, Sorry for the delay. JavaOne madness. I just ran your code on Windows 7 with an nVidia card with no issues. Can you file a Jira and describe your build and what version of javafx you are using? Also, paste the code from your email.

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
@Matthias, no, I am not kidding. Put your faith in the technology, not the politics. On 30 Sep 2013, at 22:03, Matthias Hänel hae...@ultramixer.com wrote: Hi, @Felix: you are kidding are you? We cannot take another breath without choking on it. Sure there are many positive things

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
@John, I do not believe it is too late for JavaFX on mobiles and tablets. It is a far better UI toolkit and platform than anything else available on those devices so if Oracle can get it to work well there then we are looking at a potential world beater :-) On 1 Oct 2013, at 2:27, John

RE: How to attach files to Jira?

2013-09-30 Thread Pedro Duque Vieira
Cool, thanks John! I suggest posting your SSCCE on gist and linking to it from the bug report: https://gist.github.com/ -- Pedro Duque Vieira

Re: Moving on to a round house kick (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Mark Fortner
I'm not an apologist for Oracle, but in their defense, I can't see any commercial company telegraphing their punches by pre-announcing technology. If you want support for those platforms, feel free fork the codebase and write it. I'd be satisified if we could get high-priority bugs and

hg: openjfx/8/controls/rt: 5 new changesets

2013-09-30 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 88a48547ab6c Author:jgiles Date: 2013-09-27 14:07 +1200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8/controls/rt/rev/88a48547ab6c RT-32592: CSS: Table header render is incorrectly when set style -fx-border-* from Platform.runLater Reviewed-by: psomashe !

hg: openjfx/8/graphics/rt: [DOC ONLY] RT-31687: Some concurrent package classes have empty javadocs

2013-09-30 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: a984a34eca51 Author:rbair Date: 2013-09-30 14:12 -0700 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8/graphics/rt/rev/a984a34eca51 [DOC ONLY] RT-31687: Some concurrent package classes have empty javadocs Partial fix !

hg: openjfx/8/graphics/rt: RT-33194: Wrapping width affects not always

2013-09-30 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 50c8083b3df6 Author:Felipe Heidrich felipe.heidr...@oracle.com Date: 2013-09-30 19:35 -0700 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8/graphics/rt/rev/50c8083b3df6 RT-33194: Wrapping width affects not always !