Re: HEADS-UP: [9] New WebKit + compiler upgrade for FX 9
Quick answers: 1) Yes, we hope to get on a more regular cadence with updates. This one was particularly painful because WebKit moved to requiring C++11 meaning it was dependent on the compiler upgrade. The next one might be somewhat painful as well since they have moved from Qmake to Automake. 2) We've only thought about using Blink in a Hmm, I wonder if that might make sense some day sense. We haven't given any serious thought to it. Anton might have some thoughts on the sandboxing question. -- Kevin Mike Hearn wrote: The changeset patch is 185 Mbytes and touches 11,688 files including added, removed, modifiled files. I tried generating a webrev, but it is just too big and unweildy to upload (over 1.6 GBytes). A 185 megabyte patch!? That is .. mind boggling. I don't envy you guys! Couple of questions: 1) I'm curious if there are plans to sync with WebKit upstream more frequently from now on to try and reduce the pain of upgrades. As WebKit is so complex and security sensitive, and not sandboxed in the same way as Chrome, regular updates seem vital for security. Of course this doesn't matter if you are just rendering your own content but for displaying potentially hostile content, it seems important. 2) Have you considered using Blink instead, perhaps that way you would get the sandboxing tech from Chromium? Or does the WebKit JFX uses now have cross-platform sandboxing in it as well? Thanks!
HEADS-UP: [9] New WebKit + compiler upgrade for FX 9
As a heads-up, I will push the following fixes to 9-dev today. If there are no build problems, they will be integrated to 9 master early next week and will be in JDK 9-b52. This will not affect 8u-dev (yet). 1) RT-36726: Update to the Latest Version of WebKit https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-36726 This has been developed (mostly by Anton Tarasov with help from a couple others) in an internal sandbox for the last few months, and has undergone much testing including a full webkit test cycle by our SQE team. The changeset patch is 185 Mbytes and touches 11,688 files including added, removed, modifiled files. I tried generating a webrev, but it is just too big and unweildy to upload (over 1.6 GBytes). You will be able to see the changset patch once I push it on Anton's behalf. This resolves many of the outstanding WebView crashes. 2) RT-40105: Enable new compilers by default for production builds https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-40105 http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~kcr/RT-40105/webrev.00/ Amy has already reviewed and approved these compiler update changes. The main difference is that the default compiler on Windows (Visual Studio 2013) and Mac (Xcode 5.1.1 with macosx10.9 sdk) has changed, although we will still build if you have older compilers. A couple notes about the compiler upgrade: * This is targeted for 9-dev, so it will not affect most developers yet since 8u-dev is still where most work is happening. And even if you do build 9-dev, the existing compilers (e.g., VS 2010 for windows) will build everything just fine except WebKit, which most developers don't build anyway. We do hope to backport this to 8u-dev in 3 or 4 weeks time, so be on the look out. I plan to give one week's notice when that happens, and we will have hopefully worked out the bugs by then so it shouldn't disrupt too much. * For Linux users: you will need to use Ubuntu 14.04 or Oracle Linux 7 (or RHEL 7) if you want to run WebView programs. It will no longer run on Ubuntu 13 or earlier. Everything else should run OK, but is no longer going to be supported. * For Windows and Mac users you should be fine as long as don't want to build Webkit on older platforms / compilers. WebView programs should continue to run, although this hasn't been well tested. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Kevin
Re: HEADS-UP: [9] New WebKit + compiler upgrade for FX 9
The changeset patch is 185 Mbytes and touches 11,688 files including added, removed, modifiled files. I tried generating a webrev, but it is just too big and unweildy to upload (over 1.6 GBytes). A 185 megabyte patch!? That is .. mind boggling. I don't envy you guys! Couple of questions: 1) I'm curious if there are plans to sync with WebKit upstream more frequently from now on to try and reduce the pain of upgrades. As WebKit is so complex and security sensitive, and not sandboxed in the same way as Chrome, regular updates seem vital for security. Of course this doesn't matter if you are just rendering your own content but for displaying potentially hostile content, it seems important. 2) Have you considered using Blink instead, perhaps that way you would get the sandboxing tech from Chromium? Or does the WebKit JFX uses now have cross-platform sandboxing in it as well? Thanks!
